[gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne  wrote:

Hi,

 From where the word gentoo came into existence?


Gentoo is a species of penguin.



No.  Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo".  Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is 
an anagram for "Tux, go online".  This why "Gentoo" was chosen.

[gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 12/20/2011 11:15 PM, Dale wrote:

Dan Johansson wrote:

On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne
wrote:

Hi,

From where the word gentoo came into existence?

Gentoo is a species of penguin.


No. Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo". Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is
an anagram for "Tux, go online". This why "Gentoo" was chosen.


Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo
penguin) are
the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h.
Gentoo
are adapted to very harsh cold climates."



That was what I read somewhere too.


Just to point out the obvious, I was of course joking :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne  wrote:

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder  wrote:


Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727


But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!



That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
trusted authorities.


What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you 
accept and add the cert to Firefox.  Every time you click on an 
attachment in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and 
again, and again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting 
bunnies.  That's because the domain changes with attachments (for some 
reason, b.g.o. uses subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)


So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in 
hell when browsing b.g.o.  IMO that's just stupid.  I want to trust just 
b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate.  Stupid. 
 Just stupid.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[LinuxIsOne]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:

> 
> No.  Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo".  Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is an
> anagram for "Tux, go online".  This why "Gentoo" was chosen.
> 

;)--

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Dan Johansson]

On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >>  From where the word gentoo came into existence?
> > 
> > Gentoo is a species of penguin.
> 
> 
> No.  Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo".  Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is
> an anagram for "Tux, go online".  This why "Gentoo" was chosen.
> 

Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo penguin) are 
the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo 
are adapted to very harsh cold climates."

-- 
Dan Johansson, 
***
This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons!
***

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[LinuxIsOne]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Dan Johansson  wrote:

> Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo penguin) are
> the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo
> are adapted to very harsh cold climates."

I liked the word 'Gentoo', cool!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Dale]

Dan Johansson wrote:

On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne   wrote:

Hi,

  From where the word gentoo came into existence?

Gentoo is a species of penguin.


No.  Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo".  Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is
an anagram for "Tux, go online".  This why "Gentoo" was chosen.


Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo penguin) are
the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo
are adapted to very harsh cold climates."



That was what I read somewhere too.

Dale

:-)  :-)

--
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!

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EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Mark Knecht]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:
> On 12/20/2011 11:15 PM, Dale wrote:
>>
>> Dan Johansson wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> From where the word gentoo came into existence?
>
> Gentoo is a species of penguin.

 
 No. Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo". Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is
 an anagram for "Tux, go online". This why "Gentoo" was chosen.
 
>>>
>>> Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo
>>> penguin) are
>>> the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h.
>>> Gentoo
>>> are adapted to very harsh cold climates."
>>>
>>
>> That was what I read somewhere too.
>
>
> Just to point out the obvious, I was of course joking :-)
>
>

Nikos, you bleeping expletive deleted, I so wanted it to be your answer.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Alan E. Davis]

For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:

The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to
the *OED
*, which reports that *Gentoo* was an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as
1638 to distinguish Hindus  in India
from Muslims, the English term originating in Portuguese *gentio* (compare "
gentile "); in the twentieth century
the term came to be regarded as
derogatory
.

This needs to be followed up.  One interesting publication would be

@article{calaby1999european,
  title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of
Australian Birds.},
  author={Calaby, JH},
  journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
  volume={12},
  number={3},
  pages={313--329},
  year={1999},
  publisher={CSIRO}
}

to which I do not have access.  However, this investigation is not
over.  The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua.
It should not be difficult to find the original description?*

Alan Davis


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:

> On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, 
>> LinuxIsOne>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727

>>>
>>> But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
>>>
>>>
>> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
>> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
>> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
>> trusted authorities.
>>
>
> What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
> accept and add the cert to Firefox.  Every time you click on an attachment
> in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and
> again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies.  That's
> because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses
> subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
>
> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
> hell when browsing b.g.o.  IMO that's just stupid.  I want to trust just
> b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate.  Stupid.
>  Just stupid.
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Alan E. Davis]

Actually, the full nomenclatural information is:

*Pygoscelis papua* (J.R.
Forster,
1781).  So there is a publication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this
penguin.

Alan

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Alan E. Davis  wrote:

> For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
>
> The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to the *
> OED *, which reports that *Gentoo* was
> an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish 
> Hindusin India from Muslims, the English 
> term originating in Portuguese
> *gentio* (compare "gentile "); in
> the twentieth century the term came to be regarded as 
> derogatory
> .
>
> This needs to be followed up.  One interesting publication would be
>
> @article{calaby1999european,
>   title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian 
> Birds.},
>   author={Calaby, JH},
>   journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
>   volume={12},
>   number={3},
>   pages={313--329},
>   year={1999},
>   publisher={CSIRO}
> }
>
> to which I do not have access.  However, this investigation is not over.  The 
> scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua. It should not be 
> difficult to find the original description?*
>
>
> Alan Davis
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
>> On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, 
>>> LinuxIsOne>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder
  wrote:

  Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727
>

 But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!


>>> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
>>> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
>>> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
>>> trusted authorities.
>>>
>>
>> What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
>> accept and add the cert to Firefox.  Every time you click on an attachment
>> in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and
>> again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies.  That's
>> because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses
>> subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
>>
>> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
>> hell when browsing b.g.o.  IMO that's just stupid.  I want to trust just
>> b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate.  Stupid.
>>  Just stupid.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Alan E. Davis]

Furthermore, the following publication is at least close enough to start
on.  I don't have access today.

@article{forster1781natural,
  title={Natural History and Description of the Tyger-Cat of the Cape
of Good Hope. By John Reinhold Forster, LL. DFR and AS},
  author={Forster, J.R.},
  journal={Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London},
  volume={71},
  pages={1--6},
  year={1781},
  publisher={JSTOR}
}
Alan



On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Alan E. Davis  wrote:

> Actually, the full nomenclatural information is:
>
> *Pygoscelis papua* (J.R. 
> Forster,
> 1781).  So there is a publication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this
> penguin.
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Alan E. Davis  wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
>>
>> The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to the *
>> OED *, which reports that *Gentoo* was
>> an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish 
>> Hindusin India from Muslims, the English 
>> term originating in Portuguese
>> *gentio* (compare "gentile "); in
>> the twentieth century the term came to be regarded as 
>> derogatory
>> .
>>
>> This needs to be followed up.  One interesting publication would be
>>
>> @article{calaby1999european,
>>   title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian 
>> Birds.},
>>   author={Calaby, JH},
>>   journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
>>   volume={12},
>>   number={3},
>>   pages={313--329},
>>   year={1999},
>>   publisher={CSIRO}
>> }
>>
>> to which I do not have access.  However, this investigation is not over.  
>> The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua. It should 
>> not be difficult to find the original description?*
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Davis
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
>>>
 On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, 
 LinuxIsOne>
  wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder
>  wrote:
>
>  Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727
>>
>
> But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
>
>
 That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
 default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
 throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
 trusted authorities.

>>>
>>> What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
>>> accept and add the cert to Firefox.  Every time you click on an attachment
>>> in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and
>>> again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies.  That's
>>> because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses
>>> subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
>>>
>>> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
>>> hell when browsing b.g.o.  IMO that's just stupid.  I want to trust just
>>> b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate.  Stupid.
>>>  Just stupid.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[LinuxIsOne]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Alan E. Davis  wrote:
> For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
>
> The application of Gentoo to the penguin is unclear, according to the OED,
> which reports that Gentoo was an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to
> distinguish Hindus in India from Muslims, the English term originating in
> Portuguese gentio (compare "gentile"); in the twentieth century the term
> came to be regarded as derogatory.
>
> This needs to be followed up.  One interesting publication would be
>
> @article{calaby1999european,
>   title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian
> Birds.},
>   author={Calaby, JH},
>   journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
>   volume={12},
>   number={3},
>   pages={313--329},
>   year={1999},
>   publisher={CSIRO}
> }
>
>
> to which I do not have access.  However, this investigation is not over.
> The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is Pygoscelis papua. It should not
> be difficult to find the original description?

Nice Davis!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[LinuxIsOne]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:

> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in hell
> when browsing b.g.o.  IMO that's just stupid.  I want to trust just b.g.o,
> not every site out there that has a cacert certificate.

Okay so how do I add only b.g.o of the cacert.org and not others? Can
you tell me the step by step process?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[Alan E. Davis]

[ I'm not sure what is the subject of the thread anymore.]

As a small issue about the source of the name Gentoo, even though the
Gentoo Penguin was named as *Pygoscelis papua* by  Forster, that does not
really help us to know where the English Common name came from.   Forster
apparently worked in South Africa, so that may help.

Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?

[LinuxIsOne]

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Alan E. Davis  wrote:

> [ I'm not sure what is the subject of the thread anymore.    ]

I bet you saw the subject line of this thread.