Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-18 Thread Michael Hampicke


Am 17.06.2012 23:33, schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:
>> On 17/06/12 22:36, Walter Dnes wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
>>>
 In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You
 don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and
 don't like the new version, either get involver to get it "fixed" (for
 whatever defintion of "fixed" you want), fork it (although maybe you
 should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another
 desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>>   My attitude towards KDE and GNOME is "the pox on both their houses"; I
>>> don't run desktops, I run applications.
>>
>>
>> It's just that most people prefer a unified look and feel, rather than each
>> application inventing the same things in a different and incompatible way.
>>  This is why DEs are so popular.
> 
> We had a unified look and feel...but nobody liked that particular Motif. ;)
> 

Haha, that one made me smile :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 17:33:58 schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:
> > On 17/06/12 22:36, Walter Dnes wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
> >> 
> >>> In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You
> >>> don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and
> >>> don't like the new version, either get involver to get it "fixed" (for
> >>> whatever defintion of "fixed" you want), fork it (although maybe you
> >>> should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another
> >>> desktop.
> >> 
> >>   My attitude towards KDE and GNOME is "the pox on both their houses"; I
> >> don't run desktops, I run applications.
> > 
> > It's just that most people prefer a unified look and feel, rather than
> > each
> > application inventing the same things in a different and incompatible way.
> >  This is why DEs are so popular.
> 
> We had a unified look and feel...but nobody liked that particular Motif. ;)

and it wasn't even that unified. And certainly not the feel with every 
application reacting differently to some keypress.


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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 18/06/12 00:33, Michael Mol wrote:

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:

On 17/06/12 22:36, Walter Dnes wrote:


On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote


In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You
don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and
don't like the new version, either get involver to get it "fixed" (for
whatever defintion of "fixed" you want), fork it (although maybe you
should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another
desktop.



   My attitude towards KDE and GNOME is "the pox on both their houses"; I
don't run desktops, I run applications.



It's just that most people prefer a unified look and feel, rather than each
application inventing the same things in a different and incompatible way.
  This is why DEs are so popular.


We had a unified look and feel...but nobody liked that particular Motif. ;)


That was a corporate Unix thing though, not desktop Linux.  Good 
riddance :-P





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:17:46 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

> >My attitude towards KDE and GNOME is "the pox on both their
> > houses"; I don't run desktops, I run applications.  
> 
> It's just that most people prefer a unified look and feel, rather than 
> each application inventing the same things in a different and 
> incompatible way.  This is why DEs are so popular.

There's more to a DE than that. On as multitasking system, applications
are not run in isolation. A integrated system allows applications to
work together rather than just running at the same time.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:
> On 17/06/12 22:36, Walter Dnes wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
>>
>>> In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You
>>> don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and
>>> don't like the new version, either get involver to get it "fixed" (for
>>> whatever defintion of "fixed" you want), fork it (although maybe you
>>> should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another
>>> desktop.
>>
>>
>>   My attitude towards KDE and GNOME is "the pox on both their houses"; I
>> don't run desktops, I run applications.
>
>
> It's just that most people prefer a unified look and feel, rather than each
> application inventing the same things in a different and incompatible way.
>  This is why DEs are so popular.

We had a unified look and feel...but nobody liked that particular Motif. ;)

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 17/06/12 22:36, Walter Dnes wrote:

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote


In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You
don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and
don't like the new version, either get involver to get it "fixed" (for
whatever defintion of "fixed" you want), fork it (although maybe you
should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another
desktop.


   My attitude towards KDE and GNOME is "the pox on both their houses"; I
don't run desktops, I run applications.


It's just that most people prefer a unified look and feel, rather than 
each application inventing the same things in a different and 
incompatible way.  This is why DEs are so popular.





[gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jun 17, 2012 4:42 PM, "Pandu Poluan"  wrote:
>
> So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article
from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop
environments.
>
>
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-desktop-environment-1045280

>
> Summary: Try the latest KDE. You might get pleasantly surprised.
>

Here's the mobile version of the above:

http://m.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-desktop-environment-1045280

Rgds,