[gentoo-user] Re: Ram Problem!
On 24/12/12 17:05, Teodor Spæren wrote: It got 223mhz of clocking speed and 116mb ram. I have added 512mb of swap since I knew the ram was going to be a problem. I would forget about it. It was possible in the days of GCC 3 and 2.95. Unless you don't care that emerging a complete system will take a week (or more).
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ram Problem!
On Dec 25, 2012 4:14 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/12/12 17:05, Teodor Spæren wrote: It got 223mhz of clocking speed and 116mb ram. I have added 512mb of swap since I knew the ram was going to be a problem. I would forget about it. It was possible in the days of GCC 3 and 2.95. Unless you don't care that emerging a complete system will take a week (or more). ... or, cross-compile the binaries somewhere else and feed it the resulting binary packages... Rgds, --
[gentoo-user] Re: Ram Problem!
On 2012-12-24, Teodor Spæren wrote: Hello! I am trying to install gentoo on an old armada m700. The specs that I think is relevant for this problem is the clocking speed of the cpu and the ram. It got 223mhz of clocking speed and 116mb ram. I have added 512mb of swap since I knew the ram was going to be a problem. The command I issue is: emerge gentoo-sources and the output of the command is this: http://bpaste.net/raw/66293/ The only thing I can really read from the error message is that it runs out of ram. This surprises me because all it is really doing is moving the kernel sources into place? I asked around in #gentoo on irc.freenode.net and someone adviced me to turn of MAKEOPTS=-j2 and -pipe, but this doesn't fix it. No surprise here, from what I can see, what's happening is that *emerge* is running out of memory, it's not a compilation, so -pipe or MAKEOPTS won't make any difference here. Are you, by any chance, running anything else on the machine, or maybe you forgot to enable the swap? Even then, unless emerge has changed a lot in the last few years, I doubt you need that much memory to have emerge copy files to /. But check the output of free -m or something like that to check whether 1) there's something else using a lot of memory and 2) the swap is effectiely enabled. The possible work around I have thought of is just getting the vanilla kernel from kernel.org, but the gentoo wiki advise against it, since gentoo-sources is a patched kernel. You can install the vanilla kernel, I think you can even use emerge for that, but I also think your problem here is with emerge running out of memory, not gentoo-sources being incompatible. I'd try to fix whatever the emerge issue is as it will probably prevent you from installing other packages, and that is effectively a major issue when you want to use the system. This is my first post to a mailing list, so I hope it is not to bad! :D With best regards, - TheRedMood -- Nuno Silva (aka njsg) http://njsg.sdf-eu.org/
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Ram Problem!
From: nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Ram Problem! Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:32:54 +0200 No surprise here, from what I can see, what's happening is that *emerge* is running out of memory, it's not a compilation, so -pipe or MAKEOPTS won't make any difference here. Are you, by any chance, running anything else on the machine, or maybe you forgot to enable the swap? No, I am running a cli only liverescuecd. There is nothing that should take much swap. Even then, unless emerge has changed a lot in the last few years, I doubt you need that much memory to have emerge copy files to /. But check the output of free -m or something like that to check whether 1) there's something else using a lot of memory and 2) the swap is effectiely enabled. Output of free -m: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 116 41 75 0 2 14 -/+ buffers/cache: 23 92 Swap: 486153332 You can install the vanilla kernel, I think you can even use emerge for that, but I also think your problem here is with emerge running out of memory, not gentoo-sources being incompatible. I'd try to fix whatever the emerge issue is as it will probably prevent you from installing other packages, and that is effectively a major issue when you want to use the system. That is my concern. If I get it working with a vanilla kernel, and then booting into the system, emerge do not work, it was all wasted. With best regards, - TheRedMood
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ram Problem!
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:52:27PM +0100, Teodor Spæren wrote: That is my concern. If I get it working with a vanilla kernel, and then booting into the system, emerge do not work, it was all wasted. You may want to consider a swap file: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/ NB: I don't know how well it's going to help with Gentoo. It's been close to a decade, if not longer, since I've used a machine with such limits, and we only installed binary system to them. There is tinderbox for Gentoo, if that would help any at all: http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/ -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Ram Problem!
You may want to consider a swap file: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/ I have already done this. I had some problems trying to compile gcc, so I learned it then. NB: I don't know how well it's going to help with Gentoo. It's been close to a decade, if not longer, since I've used a machine with such limits, and we only installed binary system to them. There is tinderbox for Gentoo, if that would help any at all: http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/ I don't know what tinderbox is, but I'll have to look it up. I thought that gentoo would be perfect for such an old system, except for the long compile times :3 With all due respect, Gentoo is the only distro using a Gentoo patched kernel. It's not really necessary, and NONE of the 8 comps in our shop runs any of the gentoo provided kernel sources. Just get the kernel.org of your choice and: Yeah, that is what I thought! After doing an LFS install, I don't even know the benefit of the patched kernel. Change the version for whichever one you desire. Thanks :) I use curl, but I guess it is the same with some command diffrence. It seems that I have gotten the general idea. Since there are non who really can give me a reason it won't work I will go for a vanilla kernel. Thanks so much for the helpful answers. With best regards, - TheRedMood
