Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-11-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.11.2011 05:32, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
 How do you upgrade the hardware version of the VMs?
 
 Maybe you just create a new one and attach your old disk images to it.

uuh. cool approach. simple. didn't think of it!




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-11-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 01.11.2011 20:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 Then you can emerge it (version 4.0.0.471780-r1 as of right now.)
 
 yes, I already have it, as mentioned in the other reply to this thread.
 Figured it out to work a few mins after first posting.

How do you upgrade the hardware version of the VMs?

player isn't able to do that, and there are new goodies w/ player-4 (and
hw-version 8).

app-emulation/vmware-converter is masked  with fat warnings ...

Stefan





[gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-11-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 11/03/2011 11:18 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

Am 01.11.2011 20:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:


Then you can emerge it (version 4.0.0.471780-r1 as of right now.)


yes, I already have it, as mentioned in the other reply to this thread.
Figured it out to work a few mins after first posting.


How do you upgrade the hardware version of the VMs?


Maybe you just create a new one and attach your old disk images to it.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-11-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.10.2011 07:25, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
 How is video and mouse performance?  VMware has drivers for that; you
 install them inside the guest.  There is seamless mouse integration with
 guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without
 problem.)  I can also dragdrop files between my Linux and Windows
 desktop and also share the clipboard.
 
 Does KVM have something similar?

But you don't have vmware-player-4 running on gentoo, do you?

If yes, how?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-11-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.10.2011 19:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 25.10.2011 13:15, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 
 I assume KVM isn't that handy yet as vmware-player is.
 
 sidenote: vmware-modules don't work yet with gentoo-sources-3.1.0.
 No surprise as that kernel is very new right now.
 
 (So vmware-player doesn't work at all for me right now, at least not
 with 3.1.0)

ok, it works now:
app-emulation/vmware-player-4.0.0.471780-r1 works here on ~amd64, fine!



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-11-01 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 11/01/2011 01:13 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

Am 25.10.2011 07:25, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:

How is video and mouse performance?  VMware has drivers for that; you
install them inside the guest.  There is seamless mouse integration with
guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without
problem.)  I can also dragdrop files between my Linux and Windows
desktop and also share the clipboard.

Does KVM have something similar?


But you don't have vmware-player-4 running on gentoo, do you?

If yes, how?


layman -a vmware

Then you can emerge it (version 4.0.0.471780-r1 as of right now.)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-11-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-01 13:12, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
 On 11/01/2011 01:13 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Am 25.10.2011 07:25, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
 How is video and mouse performance?  VMware has drivers for that; you
 install them inside the guest.  There is seamless mouse integration with
 guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without
 problem.)  I can also dragdrop files between my Linux and Windows
 desktop and also share the clipboard.

 Does KVM have something similar?

 But you don't have vmware-player-4 running on gentoo, do you?

 If yes, how?
 
 layman -a vmware
 
 Then you can emerge it (version 4.0.0.471780-r1 as of right now.)

yes, I already have it, as mentioned in the other reply to this thread.
Figured it out to work a few mins after first posting.

S




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-10-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.10.2011 07:25, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:

 How is video and mouse performance?  VMware has drivers for that; you
 install them inside the guest.  There is seamless mouse integration with
 guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without
 problem.)  I can also dragdrop files between my Linux and Windows
 desktop and also share the clipboard.
 
 Does KVM have something similar?

You are right, the integration isn't that smooth yet.

KVM brings virtio-drivers to access NICs and block-devices on a lower
level: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Virtio

dragdrop and clipboard: I haven't tested these w/ KVM yet, this would
also have to be integrated within the client accessing the VMs. VMM for
example does use VNC under the hood, AFAIK.

I assume KVM isn't that handy yet as vmware-player is.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-10-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.10.2011 13:15, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 I assume KVM isn't that handy yet as vmware-player is.

sidenote: vmware-modules don't work yet with gentoo-sources-3.1.0.
No surprise as that kernel is very new right now.

(So vmware-player doesn't work at all for me right now, at least not
with 3.1.0)

S




[gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-10-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 10/25/2011 01:12 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

Am 20.10.2011 18:47, schrieb Mark Knecht:


Gentoo hosts run KVM, in there virtual Windows-machines for various
specific software they need.

Stable so far.


Good to know. Maybe I'll give it a try.


reply 2, new thoughts
(perspective: running *one* Windows-XP-VM on a desktop-machine, for some
specific software):

Linux 3.1 brings KVM-related improvements. I will check those.

I don't see any performance-issues here with KVM, waiting for
vmware-player just out of curiosity ... (and KVM is told to be more
efficient anyway, closer-to/inside the kernel).


How is video and mouse performance?  VMware has drivers for that; you 
install them inside the guest.  There is seamless mouse integration with 
guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without 
problem.)  I can also dragdrop files between my Linux and Windows 
desktop and also share the clipboard.


Does KVM have something similar?




[gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay

2011-10-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 10/20/2011 12:56 PM, Andrey Moshbear wrote:

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 05:53, Stefan G. Weichingerli...@xunil.at  wrote:

Am 19.10.2011 23:14, schrieb Mark Knecht:


I've decided to stick with vmware-player-3.1.4 for use as a Netflix VM
only. All of my real work is done in Virtualbox VMs using both 32-bit
NT and 64-bit Win 7. The only problem I've had recently is that my
dual monitor Win 7 VM tends to 'abort' about 40% of the time when
starting. Once it's up and running it's fine, but getting it started
on any day is pretty much hit-or-miss.


hmm, nothing I long for ---

I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay).

Thanks, S



I've had rather pleasant experiences with virtualbox. Less
libhell/libnazism, too.
Plus, less drivers to modprobe (just vboxdrv, vboxnet as needed)
instead of the 4 or so needed for vmware.


You don't modprobe.  There's /etc/init.d/vmware which you add to the 
default runlevel or simply start manually with /etc/init.d/vmware start.