Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt. Good luck with lxde. Not sure I follow your reasoning there... I'm posting here because I have lxde working well enough for my purposes on 6 other hosts... none of them are gentoo. LXDE and Razor-QT were merged to create LXQT. LXDE'll carry on for as long as there are developers willing to keep it going; and as long as GTK+ 2 is still alive.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
Harry Putnam wrote: Its only on gentoo that I ran into this problem with the `run' menu item, so I know for certain it is not a general breakage as you seem to imply. You mentioned that you are using lxde... I'm assuming, on gentoo. So do you see the same problem with the `run' item on main menu? Same here, I did not notice before because I never use it. To be more precise, when I select 'Run' the panel disappears for ~1s then reappears but no 'Run' window. $ equery l lxde* * Searching for lxde* ... [IP-] [ ] lxde-base/lxde-common-0.5.5-r3:0 [IP-] [ ] lxde-base/lxde-icon-theme-0.5.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] lxde-base/lxde-meta-0.5.5-r4:0
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to the question. OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt. Good luck with lxde. For your information: Attached is message from the lxde devel gmane group from Jonathan Thibault jonat...@navigue.com. PS: I installed and tried out lxqt. I was not impressed. It appears only about half ready for production.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
Harry Putnam wrote: James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to the question. OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt. Good luck with lxde. For your information: Attached is message from the lxde devel gmane group from Jonathan Thibault jonat...@navigue.com. PS: I installed and tried out lxqt. I was not impressed. It appears only about half ready for production. What was supposed to be attached again? ;-) Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
Raffaele BELARDI raffaele.bela...@st.com writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Its only on gentoo that I ran into this problem with the `run' menu item, so I know for certain it is not a general breakage as you seem to imply. You mentioned that you are using lxde... I'm assuming, on gentoo. So do you see the same problem with the `run' item on main menu? Same here, I did not notice before because I never use it. To be more precise, when I select 'Run' the panel disappears for ~1s then reappears but no 'Run' window. $ equery l lxde* * Searching for lxde* ... [IP-] [ ] lxde-base/lxde-common-0.5.5-r3:0 [IP-] [ ] lxde-base/lxde-icon-theme-0.5.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] lxde-base/lxde-meta-0.5.5-r4:0 Thanks for the helpful input... please see my message furhter in thread with an attached post from an lxde developer that explains a bit about what we are seeing.
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: For your information: Attached is message from the lxde devel gmane group from Jonathan Thibault jonat...@navigue.com. Whoops forgot to attach Jonathan's message: From nobody Wed Dec 17 12:33:39 2014 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Thibault jonat...@navigue.com Newsgroups: gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel Subject: Re: main menu `run' item produces no dialog Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:36:05 -0500 Lines: 191 Approved: n...@gmane.org Message-ID: 5490a5c5.9090...@navigue.com References: 877fxrv0pz@reader.local.lan NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=070107080209010203000207 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418765821 14997 80.91.229.3 (16 Dec 2014 21:37:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: use...@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:37:01 + (UTC) To: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com, lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net Original-X-From: lxde-list-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net Tue Dec 16 22:36:56 2014 Return-path: lxde-list-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net Envelope-to: gcdld-lxde-l...@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.sourceforge.net ([216.34.181.88]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from lxde-list-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net) id 1Y0znZ-0005ok-Sq for gcdld-lxde-l...@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:36:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from lxde-list-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net) id 1Y0zmx-0008Nt-7y; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:36:15 + Original-Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from jonat...@navigue.com) id 1Y0zmv-0008Nk-DU for lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:36:13 + Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of navigue.com designates 74.117.40.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.117.40.3; envelope-from=jonat...@navigue.com; helo=mail.navigue.com; Original-Received: from mail.navigue.com ([74.117.40.3]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1Y0zmt-0007KI-Lq for lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:36:13 + Original-Received: from [192.168.7.190] (unknown [74.117.40.10]) by mail.navigue.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C425B1A01A9; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:36:05 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: 877fxrv0pz@reader.local.lan X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1Y0zmt-0007KI-Lq X-BeenThere: lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: lxde-list.lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list, mailto:lxde-list-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=lxde-list List-Post: mailto:lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net List-Help: mailto:lxde-list-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help List-Subscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list, mailto:lxde-list-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe Errors-To: lxde-list-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel:5536 Archived-At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel/5536 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --070107080209010203000207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The version of lxpanel included in gentoo actually segfaults when using 'run'. You should see it crash and respawn. This is fixed under the new version of lxpanel but gentoo isn't pushing it yet. There's extensive fixes in lxterminal 0.2.0 which is also not included in gentoo. I've included a couple ebuilds for convenience though they might not work right now since sourceforge in emergency maintenance mode. Jonathan On 16/12/14 02:44 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Setup: Very new install gentoo linux lxde version 0.5.5 This is very new install of gentoo, however I have installed lxde on quite a few different hosts over time, and never hit this particular problem. I have no idea how to debug it. After the install was complete I startrf X and lxde with startx. Once
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: What was supposed to be attached again? ;-) Dale hehe... after noticing my `senior moment, I did repost to include the attachement ... I don't see it on the group, perhaps no attachments are allowed... Here is it is inline: --- --- ---=--- --- --- NOTE: [-ed HP The ebuild referred to can be gotten on the gmane group that appears in Jonathan's headers below, if anyone is interested ] --- --- ---=--- --- --- From: Jonathan Thibault jonat...@navigue.com Newsgroups: gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel Subject: Re: main menu `run' item produces no dialog Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:36:05 -0500 [...] snipped piles of headers The version of lxpanel included in gentoo actually segfaults when using 'run'. You should see it crash and respawn. This is fixed under the new version of lxpanel but gentoo isn't pushing it yet. There's extensive fixes in lxterminal 0.2.0 which is also not included in gentoo. I've included a couple ebuilds for convenience though they might not work right now since sourceforge in emergency maintenance mode. Jonathan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
Harry Putnam wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: What was supposed to be attached again? ;-) Dale hehe... after noticing my `senior moment, I did repost to include the attachement ... I don't see it on the group, perhaps no attachments are allowed... Here is it is inline: --- --- ---=--- --- --- NOTE: [-ed HP The ebuild referred to can be gotten on the gmane group that appears in Jonathan's headers below, if anyone is interested ] --- --- ---=--- --- --- From: Jonathan Thibault jonat...@navigue.com Newsgroups: gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel Subject: Re: main menu `run' item produces no dialog Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:36:05 -0500 [...] snipped piles of headers The version of lxpanel included in gentoo actually segfaults when using 'run'. You should see it crash and respawn. This is fixed under the new version of lxpanel but gentoo isn't pushing it yet. There's extensive fixes in lxterminal 0.2.0 which is also not included in gentoo. I've included a couple ebuilds for convenience though they might not work right now since sourceforge in emergency maintenance mode. Jonathan It made it to the list and folks attach stuff a lot so it is allowed. Anyway, we were likely typing at about the same time. I just wanted to make sure you knew it wasn't attached. Senior moment? I'm 47 here and do this sort of thing quite often. I hope I'm not *to* senior. lol Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: After installing piles of X related pkgs including all the lxde pkgs: Any ideas? lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] [1] http://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32927295/ [2] http://lxqt.org/ You may want to read the entire bug there on the remaining issues with lxqt-8. From what I gather there are problems upgradeing an existing lxde setup; but installing lxqt 8.0 or 1.0 as a fresh install is working for most. ymmv. hth, James
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: You may want to read the entire bug there on the remaining issues with lxqt-8. From what I gather there are problems upgradeing an existing lxde setup; but installing lxqt 8.0 or 1.0 as a fresh install is working for most. ymmv. Oops, Forgot the BGO ref: Bug 525410 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525410 hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] [1] http://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32927295/ [2] http://lxqt.org/ LXDE is still in development, LXQt is just a new project by some people who also developed LXDE. [3] When pressing the all important `run' item in the lxde main menu (at left of bottom panel), it does nothing more than flash the bottom panel. I am not a LXDE user so I am not quite sure what the run item is. In case it's the main menu you might try right clicking on the menu and go set a .menu file. At least that is what I had to do in LXQt. Good luck. Michael [3] http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1310
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
Michael Vetter michael.vetter at uni-konstanz.de writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] LXDE is still in development, LXQt is just a new project by some people who also developed LXDE. [3] Yes, the tenor has changed over the months to keep the base of users in tact. But, if you read the 'tea leaves' this desktop lineage is on the move, and devs are few and very limited to support several trunks. I am not a LXDE user so I am not quite sure what the run item is. In case it's the main menu you might try right clicking on the menu and go set a .menu file. At least that is what I had to do in LXQt. What your not continuing with LXDE? Dude, lxde is dead; there just is no scheduled funeral announce until lxqt is more feature rich, *imho*. ymmv. Good luck. Michael [3] http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1310 I read this. I see no commitment to lxde long term. He is newly installing, so lxde is probably a bad choice, if he intends to use it for a few years. ymmv. Futhermore is Weyland in his sights? Dunno, but that seems to be the target, with qt5 resource utilization. I bet many codes that are centric to qt4 will not keep up, and thus be dropped, eventually. hth, James
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to the question.
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to the question. OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt. Good luck with lxde. James
[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to the question. OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt. Good luck with lxde. Not sure I follow your reasoning there... I'm posting here because I have lxde working well enough for my purposes on 6 other hosts... none of them are gentoo. Its only on gentoo that I ran into this problem with the `run' menu item, so I know for certain it is not a general breakage as you seem to imply. You mentioned that you are using lxde... I'm assuming, on gentoo. So do you see the same problem with the `run' item on main menu?
