Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-20 Thread Mick
On Thursday, 20 June 2019 11:55:07 BST Philip Webb wrote:
> 190619 Philip Webb wrote:
> > Something seems to have changed in 5.42 :
> > I haven't merged anything else which would affect it.
> > I can restore 40 or 38 , but does anyone have further suggestions first ?
> 
> I've reverted to 5.40 & the speed is back to normal.
> Does anyone have a suggestion what might have been changed ?
> The next step seems to be a bug report.

I haven't used xscreensaver for a long time, but your problem sounds like it 
has something to do with the way xscreensaver now hooks into the GPU.  You may 
want to scan changelogs and devs' mailing lists to see if they have changed 
something which disagrees with your graphics card/driver.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-20 Thread Philip Webb
190619 Philip Webb wrote:
> Something seems to have changed in 5.42 :
> I haven't merged anything else which would affect it.
> I can restore 40 or 38 , but does anyone have further suggestions first ?

I've reverted to 5.40 & the speed is back to normal.
Does anyone have a suggestion what might have been changed ?
The next step seems to be a bug report.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-19 Thread Philip Webb
190618 Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> Does CPU use seem to go way up when xscreensaver starts?
>> No.  The problem seems to be with the 3-D savers :
>> Gkrellm shows heavy use of  1  CPU (out of  8  ) at a time when they run.
> Is glxgears running as it should ?
>> I can't find an executable or pkg called 'glxgears',
>> but the saver called 'gears' small preview runs at  60 fps ,
>> but the big preview runs at  14 fps ;
>> previously, the latter also did  60 fps .
> These findings harden my suspicion that the *GL* stuff
> (of which I have only the minutest clue) is broken for you.
> Do install the mesa-progs package that Dale found and run glxgears.
> It should have almost no effect on CPU use if things are working right.

I've installed Mesa-progs & run Glxgears, which is running properly.
It can show GL info as below.  'eselect' shows :

  root:625 ~> eselect opengl list
  Available OpenGL implementations:
[1]   xorg-x11 *

  817: ~> glxgears -info
  Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
  approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
  GL_RENDERER   = NVD9
  GL_VERSION= 4.3 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 18.3.6
  GL_VENDOR = nouveau
  GL_EXTENSIONS = GL_ARB_multisample GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra ...
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  VisualID 943, 0x3af
  302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.376 FPS

I am using Mesa-18.3.6 .

The flags I use are shown by :

  root:630 ~> eix xscreensaver
[I] x11-misc/xscreensaver
Available versions:  5.38 5.40 5.42
 {gdm jpeg new-login offensive opengl pam +perl selinux suid xinerama}
Installed versions:  5.42
  (jpeg opengl -gdm -new-login -offensive -pam -perl -selinux -suid -xinerama)

Something seems to have changed in 5.42 :
I haven't merged anything else which would affect it.
I can restore 40 or 38 , but does anyone have further suggestions first ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-18 Thread Jack

On 6/18/19 1:11 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

On 2019-06-18 11:54, Philip Webb wrote:

Does CPU use seem to go way up when xscreensaver starts?

No.  The problem seems to be with the 3-D savers :
Gkrellm shows heavy use of  1  CPU (out of  8  ) at a time when they run.

Is glxgears running as it should ?

I can't find an executable or pkg called 'glxgears',
but the saver called 'gears' small preview runs at  60 fps ,
but the big preview runs at  14 fps ;
previously, the latter also did  60 fps .

These findings harden my suspicion that the *GL* stuff (of which I have
only the minutest clue) is broken for you.

Do install the mesa-progs package that Dale found and run glxgears.  It
should have almost no effect on CPU use if things are working right.

What does "eselect opengl list" show?






[gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-18 11:54, Philip Webb wrote:

> > Does CPU use seem to go way up when xscreensaver starts?
> 
> No.  The problem seems to be with the 3-D savers :
> Gkrellm shows heavy use of  1  CPU (out of  8  ) at a time when they run.
> 
> > Is glxgears running as it should ?
> 
> I can't find an executable or pkg called 'glxgears',
> but the saver called 'gears' small preview runs at  60 fps ,
> but the big preview runs at  14 fps ;
> previously, the latter also did  60 fps .

These findings harden my suspicion that the *GL* stuff (of which I have
only the minutest clue) is broken for you.

Do install the mesa-progs package that Dale found and run glxgears.  It
should have almost no effect on CPU use if things are working right.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-18 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote:
> 190618 Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>
>> Is glxgears running as it should ?
> I can't find an executable or pkg called 'glxgears',
> but the saver called 'gears' small preview runs at  60 fps ,
> but the big preview runs at  14 fps ;
> previously, the latter also did  60 fps .
>


If it helps:

root@fireball / # equery b glxgears
 * Searching for glxgears ...
x11-apps/mesa-progs-8.4.0 (/usr/bin/glxgears)
root@fireball / #

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-18 Thread Philip Webb
190618 Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> On 2019-06-18 05:36, Philip Webb wrote:
>> Recently, I updated to Xscreensaver 5.42 & now it's very slow :
>> some savers aren't moving at all.
> Does CPU use seem to go way up when xscreensaver starts?

No.  The problem seems to be with the 3-D savers :
Gkrellm shows heavy use of  1  CPU (out of  8  ) at a time when they run.

> Is glxgears running as it should ?

I can't find an executable or pkg called 'glxgears',
but the saver called 'gears' small preview runs at  60 fps ,
but the big preview runs at  14 fps ;
previously, the latter also did  60 fps .

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[gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-18 05:36, Philip Webb wrote:

> Recently, I updated to Xscreensaver 5.42 & now it's very slow :
> some savers aren't moving at all.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this ?  Does anyone have a solution ?

Does CPU use seem to go way up when xscreensaver starts?
Is glxgears running as it should?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver 3D modules don't work

2016-04-17 Thread Philip Webb
160329 »Q« wrote:
> 160329 Philip Webb  wrote:
>> 160328 Corbin wrote:
>>> The "x11-misc/rss-glx" screensavers work just fine.  
>> I hadn't come across it before.
>> If I emerge it, will it automatically be adopted by Xscreensaver ?
> Yes -- after emerging it you'll see its savers in xscreensaver-demo.

Thanks : it has added itself to the list of savers & seems ok.

> Another one is x11-misc/fireflies
 
This one doesn't seem quite so straightforward.

Otherwise, my problem with Xscreensaver has been solved
by the response to my other thread re importing files to LO,
ie it has become essential to add my user to the 'video' group.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver 3D modules don't work

2016-03-29 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 01:03:14 -0400
Philip Webb  wrote:

> 160328 Corbin wrote:

> > The "x11-misc/rss-glx" screensavers work just fine.  
> 
> I hadn't come across it before.
> If I emerge it, will it automatically be adopted by Xscreensaver ?

Yes -- after emerging it you'll see its savers in xscreensaver-demo.
Another one is x11-misc/fireflies

> Does anyone else have any thoughts re my original query ?

What happens if you run (or try to run) glxgears?






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xscreensaver

2005-05-31 Thread Qv6
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 10:07 pm, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 .
>
> Right-click on the desktop, select Configure Desktop and go to the
> Screensaver section. Select Slide Show under Banners & Pictures and
> click Setup to pick the directory.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xscreensaver

2005-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 31 May 2005 10:16:55 +, Qv6 wrote:

> Thanks, but I was referring to the screensaver that's built into kde.

Then why did you put xscreensaver in the Subject? Just to confuse
people? ;-/

> Emerge shows that I do not have kscreensaver or xscreensaver installed.

If you use the monolithic KDE ebuilds, you won't have a separate
kscreensaver installed. 

Right-click on the desktop, select Configure Desktop and go to the
Screensaver section. Select Slide Show under Banners & Pictures and click
Setup to pick the directory.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xscreensaver

2005-05-31 Thread Qv6
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 02:34 pm, Botykai Zsolt wrote:
> Tuesday 31 May 2005 11.18-n, Qv6 ezt írta:
> > I am trying to customize xscreensaver to show personal photos in a
> > random fashion..
> > What file do I need to mess with to get this done?
>
> from command line start
> xscreensaver-demo, then click on the 'advanced' tab, and check
> 'Choose random image' and set the directory you need.
> Then on the 'display modes' tab try (e.g.) the blitspin 'module'.
> HTH
>

Thanks, but I was referring to the screensaver that's built into kde.
Emerge shows that I do not have kscreensaver or xscreensaver installed.


 

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[gentoo-user] Re: xscreensaver

2005-05-31 Thread Botykai Zsolt
Tuesday 31 May 2005 11.18-n, Qv6 ezt írta:
> I am trying to customize xscreensaver to show personal photos in a
> random fashion..
> What file do I need to mess with to get this done?

from command line start 
xscreensaver-demo, then click on the 'advanced' tab, and check 'Choose random 
image' and set the directory you need.
Then on the 'display modes' tab try (e.g.) the blitspin 'module'.
HTH

Zsoltik@

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