Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
Dale wrote: > > Correct. I should have mentioned that in my post but assumed it would > be known. Anytime agetty is killed, it just pops back up. I suspect it > doesn't stay dead for even a second. Sort of like those zombie movies. Looks good. I used "pkill agetty", and now it looks like root 16153 1 0 17:01 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux root 16155 1 0 17:01 tty1 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux root 16156 1 0 17:01 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux root 16157 1 0 17:01 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux root 16158 1 0 17:01 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux root 16159 1 0 17:01 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux and lsof... (or lib_users) doesn't show anything any more. Thank you! -Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:51:46 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 4:22 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: > > Dale wrote: > >> > >> I do it this way. > >> pkill agetty > >> Simple, quick and easy to remember. One could script it I guess??? > > > > I'm pretty sure this would work, but is there something which would > > start them again? As far as I understand, these are the processes > > that provide console login - correct? Normally, I log in using ssh > > via network, but I would be a little upset if I couldn't log in at > > the console any more... > > > > Agetty is started by init, so it will be restarted if it dies. > sysvinit does all of about 3 things in total, and this is one of them. Would not you have to do this for each device, so maybe killall agetty or some such? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 4:22 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: >> Dale wrote: >>> I do it this way. >>> pkill agetty >>> Simple, quick and easy to remember. One could script it I guess??? >> I'm pretty sure this would work, but is there something which would >> start them again? As far as I understand, these are the processes >> that provide console login - correct? Normally, I log in using ssh >> via network, but I would be a little upset if I couldn't log in at >> the console any more... >> > Agetty is started by init, so it will be restarted if it dies. > sysvinit does all of about 3 things in total, and this is one of them. > Correct. I should have mentioned that in my post but assumed it would be known. Anytime agetty is killed, it just pops back up. I suspect it doesn't stay dead for even a second. Sort of like those zombie movies. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 4:22 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: > Dale wrote: >> >> I do it this way. >> pkill agetty >> Simple, quick and easy to remember. One could script it I guess??? > > I'm pretty sure this would work, but is there something which would > start them again? As far as I understand, these are the processes > that provide console login - correct? Normally, I log in using ssh > via network, but I would be a little upset if I couldn't log in at > the console any more... > Agetty is started by init, so it will be restarted if it dies. sysvinit does all of about 3 things in total, and this is one of them. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
Dale wrote: > > I do it this way. > pkill agetty > Simple, quick and easy to remember. One could script it I guess??? I'm pretty sure this would work, but is there something which would start them again? As far as I understand, these are the processes that provide console login - correct? Normally, I log in using ssh via network, but I would be a little upset if I couldn't log in at the console any more... -Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: > > But now, there's agetty left, and I don't know how to restart this > service (without reboot): > This is because these are run directly by init and not by openrc, unlike all the other daemons on the system. As others pointed out you can just kill these directly. Under systemd agetty is run as a service just like everything else and you can restart it the same way that you'd restart apache. There isn't really any equivalent to inittab in systemd other than one or two similar global settings. Arguably it might be nicer to treat them more like a normal service under openrc, now that it can restart crashed services. I'm not sure how reliable this feature is (I haven't run openrc in a while now), and you would need it to be reliable for agetty since most people like having a console. Traditionally agetty has been run by init for a long time though, so there might be some reluctance to make this change. Offhand I'm not sure if there are any other issues with making it a service in openrc. Fun fact: sysvinit is essentially a poor man's service manager. You could stick anything in inittab and init will start it, and restart it if it dies. There is just no control over things like dependencies and sequencing, and you have to watch out because if you have init run some bash script, which launches a process that forks, and your script terminates, then init will re-launch it possibly giving you a fork bomb at boot. Things like this are why more full-featured service managers were created. Even these tend to fall in generations, with openrc being a lot more modern than what most distros were using before upstart/runit/systemd came along. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
Matthias Hanft wrote: > Hi, > > for weekly updates, I'm using the usual update commands, such as > > emerge -NDuv @world > emerge -c > revdep-rebuild -i > > In order to find out which services are still using old versions > of updated programs/libraries, I add > > lsof | grep -w DEL | grep portage > > and /etc/init.d/XXX restart for those services. > > But now, there's agetty left, and I don't know how to restart this > service (without reboot): > > [...] > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325219 > /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libnss_files-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325229 > /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libnss_nis-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325233 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libnsl-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325236 > /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libnss_compat-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325238 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libc-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325230 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/ld-2.23.so > [...] > > There is a /etc/init.d/agetty service, but it's stopped anyway. > I already found some discussions in the net which stated that > "init q" should do the job, but this doesn't work here (just > nothing happens). > > Is there a way to restart agetty and finally drop those old > libraries? > > Thanks, > > -Matt > > I do it this way. pkill agetty Simple, quick and easy to remember. One could script it I guess??? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
Running kill on the current pids? On Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 12:36 AM Matthias Hanft wrote: > Hi, > > for weekly updates, I'm using the usual update commands, such as > > emerge -NDuv @world > emerge -c > revdep-rebuild -i > > In order to find out which services are still using old versions > of updated programs/libraries, I add > > lsof | grep -w DEL | grep portage > > and /etc/init.d/XXX restart for those services. > > But now, there's agetty left, and I don't know how to restart this > service (without reboot): > > [...] > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325219 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/ > libnss_files-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325229 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/ > libnss_nis-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325233 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/ > libnsl-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325236 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/ > libnss_compat-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325238 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/ > libc-2.23.so > agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 > 30199325230 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/ > ld-2.23.so > [...] > > There is a /etc/init.d/agetty service, but it's stopped anyway. > I already found some discussions in the net which stated that > "init q" should do the job, but this doesn't work here (just > nothing happens). > > Is there a way to restart agetty and finally drop those old > libraries? > > Thanks, > > -Matt > >
[gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?
Hi, for weekly updates, I'm using the usual update commands, such as emerge -NDuv @world emerge -c revdep-rebuild -i In order to find out which services are still using old versions of updated programs/libraries, I add lsof | grep -w DEL | grep portage and /etc/init.d/XXX restart for those services. But now, there's agetty left, and I don't know how to restart this service (without reboot): [...] agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 30199325219 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libnss_files-2.23.so agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 30199325229 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libnss_nis-2.23.so agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 30199325233 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libnsl-2.23.so agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 30199325236 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libnss_compat-2.23.so agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 30199325238 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/libc-2.23.so agetty 3438root DEL REG8,4 30199325230 /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/image/lib64/ld-2.23.so [...] There is a /etc/init.d/agetty service, but it's stopped anyway. I already found some discussions in the net which stated that "init q" should do the job, but this doesn't work here (just nothing happens). Is there a way to restart agetty and finally drop those old libraries? Thanks, -Matt
