Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Florian Philipp

On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 18:43 -0300, luis jure wrote:
> El Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:06:52 +0200
> Florian Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> 
> > 
> > mencoder -vf harddup -ovc copy -oac copy -of lavf -lavfopts format=mov
> > -ss 1:30 -endpos 3:00 -o output.mov input.mov
> > 
> > explanation:
> [...]
> > -ss 1:30 -> skip the first 1 min + 30 sec
> > -endpos 3:00 -> end input at position 3:00 min of the original film
> > -o output.mov -> write to output.mov
> > 
> > This command should result in a file containing a total of
> > 3:00-1:30=1:30 min of film [...]
> 
> i think this is not entirely correct. according to the manual, 
> "When used in conjunction with −ss option, −endpos time will shift
> forward by seconds specified with −ss."
> 
> that means that if you want 90 seconds of film, you must use -endpos 90
> or -endpos 1:30, independently from the time given in -ss. see the
> example from the man page:
> 
> EXAMPLE:
> −endpos 56
>   Stop at 56 seconds.
> −endpos 01:10:00
>   Stop at 1 hour 10 minutes.
> −ss 10 −endpos 56
>   Stop at 1 minute 6 seconds.
>   ^^
> 
> best,
> 
> lj

Thanks for the hint. Unfortunately, my method doesn't work anyway (I've
found a file on which I could test it).The video gets some really ugly
artifacts and seems to be damaged. Of course, your millage might vary if
you use another encoding than me.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread luis jure
El Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:06:52 +0200
Florian Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> 
> mencoder -vf harddup -ovc copy -oac copy -of lavf -lavfopts format=mov
> -ss 1:30 -endpos 3:00 -o output.mov input.mov
> 
> explanation:
[...]
> -ss 1:30 -> skip the first 1 min + 30 sec
> -endpos 3:00 -> end input at position 3:00 min of the original film
> -o output.mov -> write to output.mov
> 
> This command should result in a file containing a total of
> 3:00-1:30=1:30 min of film [...]

i think this is not entirely correct. according to the manual, 
"When used in conjunction with −ss option, −endpos time will shift
forward by seconds specified with −ss."

that means that if you want 90 seconds of film, you must use -endpos 90
or -endpos 1:30, independently from the time given in -ss. see the
example from the man page:

EXAMPLE:
−endpos 56
Stop at 56 seconds.
−endpos 01:10:00
Stop at 1 hour 10 minutes.
−ss 10 −endpos 56
Stop at 1 minute 6 seconds.
^^

best,

lj
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Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Florian Philipp

On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 19:56 +0100, Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 26 April 2008, Hal Martin wrote:
> > I assume you want each piece of this file to be play-able? If you don't
> > care about that, just use split to chop them up into your desired size
> > and then use cat to reassemble them at the destination.
> >
> > *$ split –bytes=1m /path/to/large/file /path/to/output/file/prefix*
> >
> > 'man split' will also contain this information.
> 
> Thanks!  I didn't know about split.
> 
> I am afraid that the split files have to be playable.  I intend to upload 
> them 
> on a server for a MSWindows user to download and play.  It has to be point & 
> click skill level at the receiving end.

Hmm, theoretically it should be possible without re-encoding because
video files contain I-frames which are encoded without reference to
previous frames every x frames. With a media player you can only seek
through a video from I-frame to I-frame (I think ...).

If that assumption is right, it should be a relatively easy task.
Something like this might work:

mencoder -vf harddup -ovc copy -oac copy -of lavf -lavfopts format=mov
-ss 1:30 -endpos 3:00 -o output.mov input.mov

explanation:
-vf harddup -> don't skip duplicate frames
-ovc copy; -oac copy -> don't re-encode audio and video
-of lavf -> use lavf for muxing
-lavfopts format=mov -> mux into mov-format
-ss 1:30 -> skip the first 1 min + 30 sec
-endpos 3:00 -> end input at position 3:00 min of the original film
-o output.mov -> write to output.mov

This command should result in a file containing a total of
3:00-1:30=1:30 min of film, however, seeking might be inaccurate
(searches next or previous I-frame) so both videos might overlap for
maybe a second or two or you could loose that amount time therefor
tweaking might be necessary.

Unfortunately, I couldn't test this because I have no suitable video
file at hand. If it works, tell me please, if not, post your results,
maybe I can look further into it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Mick
On Saturday 26 April 2008, Hal Martin wrote:
> I assume you want each piece of this file to be play-able? If you don't
> care about that, just use split to chop them up into your desired size
> and then use cat to reassemble them at the destination.
>
> *$ split –bytes=1m /path/to/large/file /path/to/output/file/prefix*
>
> 'man split' will also contain this information.

Thanks!  I didn't know about split.

I am afraid that the split files have to be playable.  I intend to upload them 
on a server for a MSWindows user to download and play.  It has to be point & 
click skill level at the receiving end.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Hal Martin
I assume you want each piece of this file to be play-able? If you don't
care about that, just use split to chop them up into your desired size
and then use cat to reassemble them at the destination.

*$ split –bytes=1m /path/to/large/file /path/to/output/file/prefix*

'man split' will also contain this information.

-Hal

Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have a rather large .mov file which I want to split into two separate 
> files.  
> What options are available to me?
>   

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[gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I have a rather large .mov file which I want to split into two separate files.  
What options are available to me?
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