Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-14 Thread Bill Longman
 I just have a little script:

 $ cat /usr/local/sbin/up-x
 #!/bin/bash
 #
 # /usr/local/sbin/up-x
 #
 # Recompile X drivers etc. after kernel upgrade:
 #
 emerge  -1 --jobs=5 --keep-going `qlist -IC x11-drivers` \
        echo \
        sh /usr/local/src/VirtualBox*run \
        echo

 Makes life really simple, with hardly any typing.

Very nice.

BTW, you do not need to escape newlines after .

echo Try 
echo This 
echo At 
echo Home ||
echo Or Not



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 14 April 2011 12:55:36 Bill Longman wrote:

 BTW, you do not need to escape newlines after .

Just goes to show: you learn something new every day - if you're not careful.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-13 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes:

 On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org 
 wrote:

  The last etc-update is only really needed when doing upgrades. I
  would like to recommend you try these commands before you are too
  dependent on the installation.

etc-update does the job, but looks a little dated to me. I prefer dispatch-
conf. My favorite at the moment is cfg-update, which is even better at 
guessing which updates can be automated. It also supports three-way merges, 
which probably means it not only takes the current and the new version of a 
config file into account, but also old versions.


 Let's potentially add
 
 module-rebuild -X rebuild
 
 to the list of little gems that keep Gentoo systems happy when
 installing a new kernel.

I don't know it stable portage already has this feature, but at least 
portage-2.2 has a set called module-rebuild. So I just do an emerge 
@modules-rebuild. Oh, and instead of emerge $( qlist -IC x11-drivers/ ) one 
can use emerge @x11-module-rebuild. This one is needed when xorg-server was 
upgraded.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 13 April 2011 23:45:01 Alex Schuster wrote:

 I don't know it stable portage already has this feature, but at least
 portage-2.2 has a set called module-rebuild. So I just do an emerge
 @modules-rebuild. Oh, and instead of emerge $( qlist -IC x11-drivers/ ) one
 can use emerge @x11-module-rebuild. This one is needed when xorg-server was
 upgraded.

I just have a little script:

$ cat /usr/local/sbin/up-x
#!/bin/bash
#
# /usr/local/sbin/up-x
#
# Recompile X drivers etc. after kernel upgrade:
#
emerge  -1 --jobs=5 --keep-going `qlist -IC x11-drivers` \
echo \
sh /usr/local/src/VirtualBox*run \
echo

Makes life really simple, with hardly any typing.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



[gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo!

I would like a telnet client installed on my gentoo amd64 system.  When I
try
emerge telnet
, I get told that telnet doesn't exist.

What am I doing wrong?  Is there a telnet client on gentoo?

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Jeremy McSpadden
[I] net-misc/netkit-telnetd
 Available versions:  0.17-r6 0.17-r8 ~0.17-r9 ~0.17-r10
 Installed versions:  0.17-r8(04:51:44 11/19/09)
 Homepage:ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/
 Description: Standard Linux telnet client and server

learn to search portage. either eix or emerge -s

Jeremy

On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

 Hi, Gentoo!
 
 I would like a telnet client installed on my gentoo amd64 system.  When I
 try
emerge telnet
 , I get told that telnet doesn't exist.
 
 What am I doing wrong?  Is there a telnet client on gentoo?
 
 -- 
 Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
 
 
 






Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo!

 I would like a telnet client installed on my gentoo amd64 system.  When I
 try
        emerge telnet
 , I get told that telnet doesn't exist.

 What am I doing wrong?  Is there a telnet client on gentoo?

 --
 Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



telnet-bsd has a telnet client. (I think...)

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo!

 I would like a telnet client installed on my gentoo amd64 system.  When I
 try
        emerge telnet
 , I get told that telnet doesn't exist.

 What am I doing wrong?  Is there a telnet client on gentoo?

 --
 Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



 telnet-bsd has a telnet client. (I think...)

there is also netkit-telnetd (and net-misc/putty if you're so
inclined)... or net-misc/tn5250 if you're dealing with AS/400's

And probably more :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Mick
On Thursday 07 April 2011 17:19:24 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo!
 
 I would like a telnet client installed on my gentoo amd64 system.  When I
 try
 emerge telnet
 , I get told that telnet doesn't exist.
 
 What am I doing wrong?  Is there a telnet client on gentoo?

As others said there's more than one option, not forgetting netcat:

nc -t address port

However, you don't need to install anything if you don't want to, because 
busybox contains a telnet client and daemon.

Just create a symlink from your /usr/local/bin/telnet to /bin/busybox:

# ln -s /bin/busybox /usr/local/bin/telnet

$ ls -la /usr/local/bin/telnet
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jan 30 12:24 /usr/local/bin/telnet - /bin/busybox

$ telnet
BusyBox v1.17.4 (2010-12-26 22:07:56 GMT) multi-call binary.

Usage: telnet [-a] [-l USER] HOST [PORT]

Connect to telnet server

Options:
-a  Automatic login with $USER variable
-l USER Automatic login as USER

Or just run:

$ busybox telnet
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Jeremy.

On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 11:05:41AM -0500, Jeremy McSpadden wrote:
 [I] net-misc/netkit-telnetd
  Available versions:  0.17-r6 0.17-r8 ~0.17-r9 ~0.17-r10
  Installed versions:  0.17-r8(04:51:44 11/19/09)
  Homepage:ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/
  Description: Standard Linux telnet client and server

Thanks, I've installed this and it seems to work.

 learn to search portage. either eix or emerge -s

That I'll have to do.  I'm not fully comfortable with emerge yet.

 Jeremy

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 Hi, Jeremy.

 On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 11:05:41AM -0500, Jeremy McSpadden wrote:
 [I] net-misc/netkit-telnetd
      Available versions:  0.17-r6 0.17-r8 ~0.17-r9 ~0.17-r10
      Installed versions:  0.17-r8(04:51:44 11/19/09)
      Homepage:            ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/
      Description:         Standard Linux telnet client and server

 Thanks, I've installed this and it seems to work.

 learn to search portage. either eix or emerge -s

 That I'll have to do.  I'm not fully comfortable with emerge yet.

 Jeremy

 --
 Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

OK, then teaching a man to fish, you'd try


mark@c2stable ~ $ eix -c telnet
[N] dev-java/telnetd (2.0): A telnet daemon for use in java applications
[N] dev-perl/Net-Telnet (3.03-r1): A Telnet Perl Module
[N] dev-perl/Net-Telnet-Cisco (1.10): Automate telnet sessions w/
routersswitches
[N] net-misc/netkit-telnetd (0.17-r6): Standard Linux telnet client and server
[I] net-misc/telnet-bsd (1.2-r1@01/21/11): Telnet and telnetd ported
from OpenBSD with IPv6 support
[N] net-misc/utelnetd (~0.1.9-r1): A small Telnet daemon, derived from
the Axis tools
[N] sec-policy/selinux-telnet (--): SELinux policy for general applications
Found 7 matches.
mark@c2stable ~ $

mark@c2stable ~ $ equery files telnet-bsd | grep bin
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/telnet
/usr/sbin
/usr/sbin/in.telnetd
mark@c2stable ~ $

and you have an answer.

In this case telnet, the binary executable, can be provided by
multiple packages, but this gets you much closer than you were.

Good luck, learn the distro and ask questions.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Dale

Alan Mackenzie wrote:

Hi, Jeremy.

On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 11:05:41AM -0500, Jeremy McSpadden wrote:
   

[I] net-misc/netkit-telnetd
  Available versions:  0.17-r6 0.17-r8 ~0.17-r9 ~0.17-r10
  Installed versions:  0.17-r8(04:51:44 11/19/09)
  Homepage:ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/
  Description: Standard Linux telnet client and server
 

Thanks, I've installed this and it seems to work.

   

learn to search portage. either eix or emerge -s
 

That I'll have to do.  I'm not fully comfortable with emerge yet.

   

Jeremy
 
   


Sounds like you are new.  Interesting commands:  The q family.  Just 
do a man q and check it out since there is a few of them.  There is 
also eix, genlop which sort of has some common tools as the q family.  
You also need use eselect from time to time as well.  There are also 
times when revdep-rebuild will rear its head too.


That should be a start and I'm sure someone will point out one or two I 
missed as well.  ;-)


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thursday 07 April 2011 15:14:43 Dale wrote:
 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
  Hi, Jeremy.
  
  On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 11:05:41AM -0500, Jeremy McSpadden wrote:
  [I] net-misc/netkit-telnetd
  
Available versions:  0.17-r6 0.17-r8 ~0.17-r9 ~0.17-r10
Installed versions:  0.17-r8(04:51:44 11/19/09)
Homepage:   
ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/
Description: Standard Linux telnet client and
server
  
  Thanks, I've installed this and it seems to work.
  
  learn to search portage. either eix or emerge -s
  
  That I'll have to do.  I'm not fully comfortable with emerge yet.
  
  Jeremy
 
 Sounds like you are new.  Interesting commands:  The q family.  Just
 do a man q and check it out since there is a few of them.  There is
 also eix, genlop which sort of has some common tools as the q family.
 You also need use eselect from time to time as well.  There are also
 times when revdep-rebuild will rear its head too.
 
 That should be a start and I'm sure someone will point out one or two I
 missed as well.  ;-)

To search for specific packages, I think Dale and Mark did a good set.
As for the others, like revdep-rebuild, there is also python-updater and 
etc-update.

The last etc-update is only really needed when doing upgrades. I would like 
to recommend you try these commands before you are too dependent on the 
installation.
Making mistakes while learning is a good method, but can also be extremely 
frustrating when these same mistakes keep you from enjoying the use of the 
computer. (Yes, I am speaking from personal experience ;) )

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
 On Thursday 07 April 2011 15:14:43 Dale wrote:
 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
  Hi, Jeremy.
 
  On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 11:05:41AM -0500, Jeremy McSpadden wrote:
  [I] net-misc/netkit-telnetd
 
        Available versions:  0.17-r6 0.17-r8 ~0.17-r9 ~0.17-r10
        Installed versions:  0.17-r8(04:51:44 11/19/09)
        Homepage:
        ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/
        Description:         Standard Linux telnet client and
        server
 
  Thanks, I've installed this and it seems to work.
 
  learn to search portage. either eix or emerge -s
 
  That I'll have to do.  I'm not fully comfortable with emerge yet.
 
  Jeremy

 Sounds like you are new.  Interesting commands:  The q family.  Just
 do a man q and check it out since there is a few of them.  There is
 also eix, genlop which sort of has some common tools as the q family.
 You also need use eselect from time to time as well.  There are also
 times when revdep-rebuild will rear its head too.

 That should be a start and I'm sure someone will point out one or two I
 missed as well.  ;-)

 To search for specific packages, I think Dale and Mark did a good set.
 As for the others, like revdep-rebuild, there is also python-updater and
 etc-update.

 The last etc-update is only really needed when doing upgrades. I would like
 to recommend you try these commands before you are too dependent on the
 installation.
 Making mistakes while learning is a good method, but can also be extremely
 frustrating when these same mistakes keep you from enjoying the use of the
 computer. (Yes, I am speaking from personal experience ;) )

 --
 Joost

Let's potentially add

module-rebuild -X rebuild

to the list of little gems that keep Gentoo systems happy when
installing a new kernel.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 07 April 2011 21:10:32 Mark Knecht wrote:

 mark@c2stable ~ $ equery files telnet-bsd | grep bin

Which of course he can't do until after he's installed the package.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
 On Thursday 07 April 2011 21:10:32 Mark Knecht wrote:

 mark@c2stable ~ $ equery files telnet-bsd | grep bin

 Which of course he can't do until after he's installed the package.

 --
 Rgds
 Peter

Damn. You're right. My bad.

Well, had he used eix (or emerge -s telnet) at least he would have
determined that he had the wrong package name.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Dale

Mark Knecht wrote:

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Peter Humphreype...@humphrey.ukfsn.org  wrote:
   

On Thursday 07 April 2011 21:10:32 Mark Knecht wrote:

 

mark@c2stable ~ $ equery files telnet-bsd | grep bin
   

Which of course he can't do until after he's installed the package.

--
Rgds
Peter
 

Damn. You're right. My bad.

Well, had he used eix (or emerge -s telnet) at least he would have
determined that he had the wrong package name.

- Mark


   


I mistyped a package name the other day and portage actually made 
suggestions as to what I meant to type.  O_O  I think the devs are 
trying to program in some ESP code.  lol


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Matthew Finkel

  
   Thanks, I've installed this and it seems to work.
  
   learn to search portage. either eix or emerge -s
  
   That I'll have to do.  I'm not fully comfortable with emerge yet.
  
   Jeremy
 
  Sounds like you are new.  Interesting commands:  The q family.  Just
  do a man q and check it out since there is a few of them.  There is
  also eix, genlop which sort of has some common tools as the q family.
  You also need use eselect from time to time as well.  There are also
  times when revdep-rebuild will rear its head too.

 To search for specific packages, I think Dale and Mark did a good set.
 As for the others, like revdep-rebuild, there is also python-updater
 and
 etc-update.


Huh, I've been using gentoo for years and never knew about the q's,
definitely learned something new today! But I just wanted to make a note
that a few of these programs are part of the gentoolkit package. Querying
portage for revdep, equery, etc won't give you the package it belongs to.


Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 07 April 2011 23:47:22 Dale wrote:

 I mistyped a package name the other day and portage actually made
 suggestions as to what I meant to type.  O_O  I think the devs are
 trying to program in some ESP code.  lol

No mate, they've just finally cottoned-on to your and my bad typing!

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Dale

Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Thursday 07 April 2011 23:47:22 Dale wrote:

   

I mistyped a package name the other day and portage actually made
suggestions as to what I meant to type.  O_O  I think the devs are
trying to program in some ESP code.  lol
 

No mate, they've just finally cottoned-on to your and my bad typing!

   


At first, it freaked me out.  I reproduced the feature here tho:

root@fireball / # emerge -1av nvidia-driver

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy nvidia-driver.

emerge: searching for similar names...
emerge: Maybe you meant any of these: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers, 
dev-db/libdbi-drivers, dev-util/nvidia-cuda-profiler?

root@fireball / #

I thought dang, that is neato!!  Now if they can just make it read my 
mind and me not have to show off my bad typing or forgetting the name of 
the package.  ;-)   So, you may be right.  o_O


Dale

:-)  :-)