Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Richard Marzan
Thanks. That clears things up for me.

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Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 13:38:59 Richard Marzan wrote:

> I'm sorry but I have never used @system and @world. What is the difference

> and why the new syntax. I will surely rtfm.





It's the new set syntax, available in recent 2.2 portages. I believe there is 

some support in recent 2.1 as well



@system consists of the same packages as the old "system"

@world is the world set - the contents of your world file. It's not the same 

as "world" as it excludes "system" whereas "world" implies that system is 

included.



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Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 13:38:59 Richard Marzan wrote:
> I'm sorry but I have never used @system and @world. What is the difference
> and why the new syntax. I will surely rtfm.


It's the new set syntax, available in recent 2.2 portages. I believe there is 
some support in recent 2.1 as well

@system consists of the same packages as the old "system"
@world is the world set - the contents of your world file. It's not the same 
as "world" as it excludes "system" whereas "world" implies that system is 
included.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Richard Marzan
I'm sorry but I have never used @system and @world. What is the difference and 
why the new syntax. I will surely rtfm.

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Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:30:40 Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> On 26 Aug, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:10:15 Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> >> On 26 Aug, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> >> > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:35:37 Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> >> >> Hi,

> >> >>

> >> >> again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.

> >> >>

> >> >> This time,

> >> >> emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world

> >> >>

> >> >> tells me quite a few dependencies like

> >> >>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:

> >> >>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1

> >> >>

> >> >> I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.

> >> >> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?

> >> >>

> >> >> Many thanks for a hint.

> >> >> (I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)

> >> >> Helmut.

> >> >

> >> > run your emerge with -t

> >>

> >> Unfortunately, that doesn't help

> >> Helmut.

> >>

> >>  emerge --depclean -t -p

> >

> > I said to run emerge -t

> >

> > I didn't say to run emerge --depclean -t

>

> OK, here is the output

>

> emerge -t

> emerge: the other white meat (command-line interface to the Portage system)

> Usage:

>emerge [ options ] [ action ] [ ebuild | tbz2 | file | @set | atom ] [

> ... ] emerge [ options ] [ action ] < system | world >

>emerge < --sync | --metadata | --info >

>emerge --resume [ --pretend | --ask | --skipfirst ]

>emerge --help [ --verbose ]

> Options: -[abBcCdDefgGhjkKlnNoOpqPsStuvV]

>   [ --color < y | n >] [ --columns]

>   [ --complete-graph ] [ --deep   ]

>   [ --jobs JOBS ] [ --keep-going ] [ --load-average LOAD   

> ] [ --newuse] [ --noconfmem  ] [ --nospinner  ]

>   [ --oneshot   ] [ --onlydeps   ]

>   [ --reinstall changed-use  ] [ --with-bdeps < y | n >

> ] Actions:  [ --depclean | --list-sets | --search | --sync | --version 

>   ]

>

>For more help try 'emerge --help --verbose' or consult the man page.

>

>

> Helmut



Dude,



you need to read the emerge man page. Seriously.



I intend you to think with my posts, not follow them blindly.



-- 

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Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:30:40 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 26 Aug, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:10:15 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> >> On 26 Aug, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:35:37 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.
> >> >>
> >> >> This time,
> >> >> emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world
> >> >>
> >> >> tells me quite a few dependencies like
> >> >>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
> >> >>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
> >> >>
> >> >> I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.
> >> >> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Many thanks for a hint.
> >> >> (I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)
> >> >> Helmut.
> >> >
> >> > run your emerge with -t
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, that doesn't help
> >> Helmut.
> >>
> >>  emerge --depclean -t -p
> >
> > I said to run emerge -t
> >
> > I didn't say to run emerge --depclean -t
>
> OK, here is the output
>
> emerge -t
> emerge: the other white meat (command-line interface to the Portage system)
> Usage:
>emerge [ options ] [ action ] [ ebuild | tbz2 | file | @set | atom ] [
> ... ] emerge [ options ] [ action ] < system | world >
>emerge < --sync | --metadata | --info >
>emerge --resume [ --pretend | --ask | --skipfirst ]
>emerge --help [ --verbose ]
> Options: -[abBcCdDefgGhjkKlnNoOpqPsStuvV]
>   [ --color < y | n >] [ --columns]
>   [ --complete-graph ] [ --deep   ]
>   [ --jobs JOBS ] [ --keep-going ] [ --load-average LOAD   
> ] [ --newuse] [ --noconfmem  ] [ --nospinner  ]
>   [ --oneshot   ] [ --onlydeps   ]
>   [ --reinstall changed-use  ] [ --with-bdeps < y | n >
> ] Actions:  [ --depclean | --list-sets | --search | --sync | --version 
>   ]
>
>For more help try 'emerge --help --verbose' or consult the man page.
>
>
> Helmut

Dude,

you need to read the emerge man page. Seriously.

I intend you to think with my posts, not follow them blindly.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 26 Aug, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:10:15 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> On 26 Aug, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:35:37 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.
>> >>
>> >> This time,
>> >> emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world
>> >>
>> >> tells me quite a few dependencies like
>> >>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
>> >>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
>> >>
>> >> I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.
>> >> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks for a hint.
>> >> (I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)
>> >> Helmut.
>> >
>> > run your emerge with -t
>>
>> Unfortunately, that doesn't help
>> Helmut.
>>
>>  emerge --depclean -t -p
> 
> I said to run emerge -t
> 
> I didn't say to run emerge --depclean -t

OK, here is the output

emerge -t
emerge: the other white meat (command-line interface to the Portage system)
Usage:
   emerge [ options ] [ action ] [ ebuild | tbz2 | file | @set | atom ] [ ... ]
   emerge [ options ] [ action ] < system | world >
   emerge < --sync | --metadata | --info >
   emerge --resume [ --pretend | --ask | --skipfirst ]
   emerge --help [ --verbose ] 
Options: -[abBcCdDefgGhjkKlnNoOpqPsStuvV]
  [ --color < y | n >] [ --columns]
  [ --complete-graph ] [ --deep   ]
  [ --jobs JOBS ] [ --keep-going ] [ --load-average LOAD]
  [ --newuse] [ --noconfmem  ] [ --nospinner  ]
  [ --oneshot   ] [ --onlydeps   ]
  [ --reinstall changed-use  ] [ --with-bdeps < y | n > ]
Actions:  [ --depclean | --list-sets | --search | --sync | --version]

   For more help try 'emerge --help --verbose' or consult the man page.


Helmut




Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:10:15 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 26 Aug, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:35:37 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.
> >>
> >> This time,
> >> emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world
> >>
> >> tells me quite a few dependencies like
> >>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
> >>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
> >>
> >> I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.
> >> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?
> >>
> >> Many thanks for a hint.
> >> (I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)
> >> Helmut.
> >
> > run your emerge with -t
>
> Unfortunately, that doesn't help
> Helmut.
>
>  emerge --depclean -t -p

I said to run emerge -t

I didn't say to run emerge --depclean -t

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:06:44 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 26 Aug, Roy Wright wrote:
> > emerge --unmerge =x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
> >
> > The meta package is no longer used.
>
> But how it comes that
> emerge --depclean -p
>
> tells me
>
>  * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to
>  * the following required packages not being installed:
>  *
>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
>  *
>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.1 pulled in by:
>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
>
> and many more such lines?

You probably have qt-4.5.1 in world. Run 

emerge -t 

to see why qt-4.5.1 is being pulled in.

Portage supplies a multitude of tools to help you drive portage. Why have you 
not read the man page and learned how to use them?


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Dale
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 26 Aug, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>   
>> On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:35:37 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.
>>>
>>> This time,
>>> emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world
>>>
>>> tells me quite a few dependencies like
>>>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
>>>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
>>>
>>> I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.
>>> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?
>>>
>>> Many thanks for a hint.
>>> (I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)
>>> Helmut.
>>>   
>> run your emerge with -t
>>
>> 
>
> Unfortunately, that doesn't help
> Helmut.
>
>   

LOL  Try this:

emerge -uvDNpt @system @world

That should work better.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 26 Aug, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:35:37 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.
>>
>> This time,
>> emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world
>>
>> tells me quite a few dependencies like
>>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
>>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
>>
>> I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.
>> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?
>>
>> Many thanks for a hint.
>> (I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)
>> Helmut.
> 
> run your emerge with -t
> 

Unfortunately, that doesn't help
Helmut.

 emerge --depclean -t -p

 * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious
 * mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always
 * be kept.  They can be manually added to this set with
 * `emerge --noreplace `.  Packages that are listed in
 * package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
 * depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
 * 
 * As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages
 * unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved.  As a
 * consequence, it is often necessary to run `emerge --update
 * --newuse --deep @system @world` prior to depclean.

Calculating dependencies... done!
 * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to
 * the following required packages not being installed:
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-assistant-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-svg-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1






Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:35:37 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.
>
> This time,
> emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world
>
> tells me quite a few dependencies like
>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
>
> I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.
> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?
>
> Many thanks for a hint.
> (I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)
> Helmut.

run your emerge with -t

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 26 Aug, Roy Wright wrote:
> emerge --unmerge =x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
> 
> The meta package is no longer used.
> 

But how it comes that
emerge --depclean -p

tells me

 * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to
 * the following required packages not being installed:
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
 * 
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1

and many more such lines?

Thanks,
Helmut.





Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 26 Aug, Fabrice Delliaux wrote:
> Le Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:35:37 +0200 (CEST),
> Helmut Jarausch a écrit :
> 
>> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?
> 
> # emerge gentoolkit
> # equery d qt

Thanks, this shows all packages which depend on qt:4.5 (e.g.)
Since I have qt-4.5.2 installed, how can I find out which packages
pulls in version 4.5.1 ?

Helmut.




Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Roy Wright

emerge --unmerge =x11-libs/qt-4.5.1

The meta package is no longer used.

HTH,
Roy

On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:


Hi,

again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.

This time,
emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world

tells me quite a few dependencies like
*   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
* x11-libs/qt-4.5.1

I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.
How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?

Many thanks for a hint.
(I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)
Helmut.

--
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany






Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Fabrice Delliaux
Le Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:35:37 +0200 (CEST),
Helmut Jarausch a écrit :

> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?

# emerge gentoolkit
# equery d qt



Re: [gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Dale
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.
>
> This time, 
> emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world
>
> tells me quite a few dependencies like
>  *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
>  * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1
>
> I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.
> How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?
>
> Many thanks for a hint.
> (I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)
> Helmut.
>
>   

Usually adding the -t option will tell what is pulling it in.  man
emerge for more info on that option.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] dependency miracle - please help

2009-08-26 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

again, portage's dependencies caculation makes me wonder.

This time, 
emerge  --update --newuse --deep @system @world

tells me quite a few dependencies like
 *   ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1 pulled in by:
 * x11-libs/qt-4.5.1

I do have x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 and x11-libs/qt-4.5.2 installed.
How can I find out which package is pulling x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 in ?

Many thanks for a hint.
(I have portage-2.2_rc40 installed here)
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany