Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -ef world and eclean --destructive distfiles do not agree
On Saturday 23 February 2008, Erik wrote: Alan McKinnon skrev: On Saturday 23 February 2008, Erik wrote: I am running emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles' emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles ... Each time eclean removes the following files: * Building file list for distfiles cleaning... * Cleaning distfiles... [ 258.9 K ] XML-LibXML-1.65.tar.gz [ 478.6 K ] klibc-1.5.8.tar.bz2 [ 290.2 K ] libassuan-1.0.4.tar.bz2 [ 67.7 K ] mftrace-1.2.9.tar.gz [ 9.2 M ] patch-2.6.24-rc7.bz2 [ 243.4 K ] setuptools-0.6c7.tar.gz * Total space that has been freed in distfiles directory: 10.5 M Then emerge downloads them again. I had expected that those 2 programs should agree on which files belong in the set of distfiles. What happens if you use 'emerge -uNDf world instead of 'emerge -ef world' -e is a special case and does not equate to the same thing as -uND emerge -uNDf world does nothing because the system is up to date. Even if all distfiles are missing, it does nothing (try to move the distfiles directory away while executing it). That command is supposed to download everything that is missing to update the system. And since the system is up to date, nothing is needed to update it and it will therefore not download anything. What I wanted was download everything that is missing to reinstall everything that is currently installed. That is what emerge -ef world should do. Then I wanted to remove everything that is not needed to reinstall everything that is currently installed. That is what eclean --destructive distfiles should do. Doing both should result in a set of distfiles that is what is needed and only what is needed to reinstall everything that is currently installed (assuming that the system is up to date). But since the 2 commands do not agree, something is broken somewhere. from man emerge: --emptytree (-e) Reinstalls all world packages and their dependencies to the current USE specifications while dif- fering from the installed set of packages as little as possible. You should run with --pretend first to make sure the result is what you expect. There's that little bit about differing from the installed set of packages as little as possible. So obviously an --update and --emptytree can produce an (unstated) different list of actions to be taken, and emerge and eclean are both working correctly according to their design specs. I think you are taking the wrong approach, and should be using -uNDF instead. -F fetches everything in src_uri -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -ef world and eclean --destructive distfiles do not agree
forgottenwizard skrev: On 02:41 Sat 23 Feb , Erik wrote: Alan McKinnon skrev: emerge -uNDf world does nothing because the system is up to date. Even if all distfiles are missing, it does nothing (try to move the distfiles directory away while executing it). That command is supposed to download everything that is missing to update the system. And since the system is up to date, nothing is needed to update it and it will therefore not download anything. What I wanted was download everything that is missing to reinstall everything that is currently installed. That is what emerge -ef world should do. Then I wanted to remove everything that is not needed to reinstall everything that is currently installed. That is what eclean --destructive distfiles should do. Doing both should result in a set of distfiles that is what is needed and only what is needed to reinstall everything that is currently installed (assuming that the system is up to date). But since the 2 commands do not agree, something is broken somewhere. Have you checked to see if the files deleted by eclean are the current versions, or are they old? If they are the most recent you have installed, then there is a problem with eclean. If not, then the problem is with --fetchonly I check with the file klibc-1.5.8.tar.bz2. # emerge -up klibc These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] dev-libs/klibc-1.5.8 [1.5] So it seems like klibc is outdated but emerge -uDNav world does not want want to update it! # equery d klibc [ Searching for packages depending on klibc... ] sys-apps/v86d-0.1.3 (dev-libs/klibc) localhost ~ # grep sys-apps/v86d /var/lib/portage/world sys-apps/v86d So sys-apps/v86d is in world and depends dev-libs/klibc, but yet emerge -uDNp world does not want to update dev-libs/klibc, like emerge -up dev-libs/klibc wants to! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -ef world and eclean --destructive distfiles do not agree
On Saturday 23 February 2008, Erik wrote: I check with the file klibc-1.5.8.tar.bz2. # emerge -up klibc These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] dev-libs/klibc-1.5.8 [1.5] So it seems like klibc is outdated but emerge -uDNav world does not want want to update it! # equery d klibc [ Searching for packages depending on klibc... ] sys-apps/v86d-0.1.3 (dev-libs/klibc) localhost ~ # grep sys-apps/v86d /var/lib/portage/world sys-apps/v86d So sys-apps/v86d is in world and depends dev-libs/klibc, but yet emerge -uDNp world does not want to update dev-libs/klibc, like emerge -up dev-libs/klibc wants to! This looks like a --bdeps situation. v86D DEPENDS on klibc, it does not RDEPEND on it, meaning that klibc does not need to be updated to *build* a new v86d. v86d is in world so it will be updated because you told portage to always keep it up to date. klibc is not in world and a new updated klibc is not required to accomplish what you have asked to for - a complete update of every package that world expands to with dependencies taken into account. Remember what world is - it's a list of packages that you have explicitly asked to be there. It is NOT a list of everything you have installed. I can think of two ways to accomplish what you are asking for - use --with-bdeps y or include it in EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS - put klibc in world -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge -ef world and eclean --destructive distfiles do not agree
I am running emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles' emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles ... Each time eclean removes the following files: * Building file list for distfiles cleaning... * Cleaning distfiles... [ 258.9 K ] XML-LibXML-1.65.tar.gz [ 478.6 K ] klibc-1.5.8.tar.bz2 [ 290.2 K ] libassuan-1.0.4.tar.bz2 [ 67.7 K ] mftrace-1.2.9.tar.gz [ 9.2 M ] patch-2.6.24-rc7.bz2 [ 243.4 K ] setuptools-0.6c7.tar.gz * Total space that has been freed in distfiles directory: 10.5 M Then emerge downloads them again. I had expected that those 2 programs should agree on which files belong in the set of distfiles. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -ef world and eclean --destructive distfiles do not agree
On Saturday 23 February 2008, Erik wrote: I am running emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles' emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles ... Each time eclean removes the following files: * Building file list for distfiles cleaning... * Cleaning distfiles... [ 258.9 K ] XML-LibXML-1.65.tar.gz [ 478.6 K ] klibc-1.5.8.tar.bz2 [ 290.2 K ] libassuan-1.0.4.tar.bz2 [ 67.7 K ] mftrace-1.2.9.tar.gz [ 9.2 M ] patch-2.6.24-rc7.bz2 [ 243.4 K ] setuptools-0.6c7.tar.gz * Total space that has been freed in distfiles directory: 10.5 M Then emerge downloads them again. I had expected that those 2 programs should agree on which files belong in the set of distfiles. What happens if you use 'emerge -uNDf world instead of 'emerge -ef world' -e is a special case and does not equate to the same thing as -uND -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -ef world and eclean --destructive distfiles do not agree
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 23 February 2008, Erik wrote: I am running emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles' emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles ... Each time eclean removes the following files: * Building file list for distfiles cleaning... * Cleaning distfiles... [ 258.9 K ] XML-LibXML-1.65.tar.gz [ 478.6 K ] klibc-1.5.8.tar.bz2 [ 290.2 K ] libassuan-1.0.4.tar.bz2 [ 67.7 K ] mftrace-1.2.9.tar.gz [ 9.2 M ] patch-2.6.24-rc7.bz2 [ 243.4 K ] setuptools-0.6c7.tar.gz * Total space that has been freed in distfiles directory: 10.5 M Then emerge downloads them again. I had expected that those 2 programs should agree on which files belong in the set of distfiles. What happens if you use 'emerge -uNDf world instead of 'emerge -ef world' -e is a special case and does not equate to the same thing as -uND I think I see it the same way he does. If you do a rm -rf /usr/portage/distfiles/* and then do a emerge -ef world, then do the eclean again, it should not remove anything since everything there is needed to recompile everything in world and their dependencies. It should also not have to redownload anything either. Isn't patch part of system? setuptools too? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -ef world and eclean --destructive distfiles do not agree
Alan McKinnon skrev: On Saturday 23 February 2008, Erik wrote: I am running emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles' emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles ... Each time eclean removes the following files: * Building file list for distfiles cleaning... * Cleaning distfiles... [ 258.9 K ] XML-LibXML-1.65.tar.gz [ 478.6 K ] klibc-1.5.8.tar.bz2 [ 290.2 K ] libassuan-1.0.4.tar.bz2 [ 67.7 K ] mftrace-1.2.9.tar.gz [ 9.2 M ] patch-2.6.24-rc7.bz2 [ 243.4 K ] setuptools-0.6c7.tar.gz * Total space that has been freed in distfiles directory: 10.5 M Then emerge downloads them again. I had expected that those 2 programs should agree on which files belong in the set of distfiles. What happens if you use 'emerge -uNDf world instead of 'emerge -ef world' -e is a special case and does not equate to the same thing as -uND emerge -uNDf world does nothing because the system is up to date. Even if all distfiles are missing, it does nothing (try to move the distfiles directory away while executing it). That command is supposed to download everything that is missing to update the system. And since the system is up to date, nothing is needed to update it and it will therefore not download anything. What I wanted was download everything that is missing to reinstall everything that is currently installed. That is what emerge -ef world should do. Then I wanted to remov -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -ef world and eclean --destructive distfiles do not agree
Alan McKinnon skrev: On Saturday 23 February 2008, Erik wrote: I am running emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles' emerge -ef world eclean --destructive distfiles ... Each time eclean removes the following files: * Building file list for distfiles cleaning... * Cleaning distfiles... [ 258.9 K ] XML-LibXML-1.65.tar.gz [ 478.6 K ] klibc-1.5.8.tar.bz2 [ 290.2 K ] libassuan-1.0.4.tar.bz2 [ 67.7 K ] mftrace-1.2.9.tar.gz [ 9.2 M ] patch-2.6.24-rc7.bz2 [ 243.4 K ] setuptools-0.6c7.tar.gz * Total space that has been freed in distfiles directory: 10.5 M Then emerge downloads them again. I had expected that those 2 programs should agree on which files belong in the set of distfiles. What happens if you use 'emerge -uNDf world instead of 'emerge -ef world' -e is a special case and does not equate to the same thing as -uND emerge -uNDf world does nothing because the system is up to date. Even if all distfiles are missing, it does nothing (try to move the distfiles directory away while executing it). That command is supposed to download everything that is missing to update the system. And since the system is up to date, nothing is needed to update it and it will therefore not download anything. What I wanted was download everything that is missing to reinstall everything that is currently installed. That is what emerge -ef world should do. Then I wanted to remove everything that is not needed to reinstall everything that is currently installed. That is what eclean --destructive distfiles should do. Doing both should result in a set of distfiles that is what is needed and only what is needed to reinstall everything that is currently installed (assuming that the system is up to date). But since the 2 commands do not agree, something is broken somewhere. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -ef world and eclean --destructive distfiles do not agree
On 02:41 Sat 23 Feb , Erik wrote: Alan McKinnon skrev: emerge -uNDf world does nothing because the system is up to date. Even if all distfiles are missing, it does nothing (try to move the distfiles directory away while executing it). That command is supposed to download everything that is missing to update the system. And since the system is up to date, nothing is needed to update it and it will therefore not download anything. What I wanted was download everything that is missing to reinstall everything that is currently installed. That is what emerge -ef world should do. Then I wanted to remove everything that is not needed to reinstall everything that is currently installed. That is what eclean --destructive distfiles should do. Doing both should result in a set of distfiles that is what is needed and only what is needed to reinstall everything that is currently installed (assuming that the system is up to date). But since the 2 commands do not agree, something is broken somewhere. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Have you checked to see if the files deleted by eclean are the current versions, or are they old? If they are the most recent you have installed, then there is a problem with eclean. If not, then the problem is with --fetchonly -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
