Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-17 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
 On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local
 install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so.

 Version 1.3.1 was removed from the tree, leaving only 1.3.0 to satisfy
 XFCE_PLUGINS=battery/brightness.




That's not it. Portage doesn't work like that.

It's because he specifically keyworded 1.3.1 in package.keywords,
instead using something smart like:

xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-

To get latest non-live version.



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
 On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local
 install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so.

 Version 1.3.1 was removed from the tree, leaving only 1.3.0 to satisfy
 XFCE_PLUGINS=battery/brightness.




 That's not it. Portage doesn't work like that.

 It's because he specifically keyworded 1.3.1 in package.keywords,
 instead using something smart like:

 xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-

 To get latest non-live version.

I'm not necessarily after the most recent non-live version of the package.
I just didn't want lvm2 pulled in as my current setup has no use for it.

What would you recommend doing, leave things as they are, or keyword
the stanza you suggested?

Thanks.



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-17 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 17/09/14 16:16, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
 On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local
 install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so.

 Version 1.3.1 was removed from the tree, leaving only 1.3.0 to satisfy
 XFCE_PLUGINS=battery/brightness.



 That's not it. Portage doesn't work like that.

 It's because he specifically keyworded 1.3.1 in package.keywords,
 instead using something smart like:

 xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-

 To get latest non-live version.

 I'm not necessarily after the most recent non-live version of the package.
 I just didn't want lvm2 pulled in as my current setup has no use for it.

 What would you recommend doing, leave things as they are, or keyword
 the stanza you suggested?

 Thanks.


Notice that I said _non_-live and the  char in the line. I would
use the stanza (as you said)
because if 1.4.0 is not stabilized before something like 1.4.1 is added
to tree, and 1.4.0 gets
deleted, you are facing the same problem all over again.
As in, xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager- with the  means I want
latest non-live version.



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On 17/09/14 16:16, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org 
 wrote:
 On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
 On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local
 install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so.

 Version 1.3.1 was removed from the tree, leaving only 1.3.0 to satisfy
 XFCE_PLUGINS=battery/brightness.



 That's not it. Portage doesn't work like that.

 It's because he specifically keyworded 1.3.1 in package.keywords,
 instead using something smart like:

 xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-

 To get latest non-live version.

 I'm not necessarily after the most recent non-live version of the package.
 I just didn't want lvm2 pulled in as my current setup has no use for it.

 What would you recommend doing, leave things as they are, or keyword
 the stanza you suggested?

 Thanks.


 Notice that I said _non_-live and the  char in the line. I would
 use the stanza (as you said)
 because if 1.4.0 is not stabilized before something like 1.4.1 is added
 to tree, and 1.4.0 gets
 deleted, you are facing the same problem all over again.
 As in, xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager- with the  means I want
 latest non-live version.


Understood. Thanks.



[gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1,
which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a
dependency.

grep xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager /etc/portage/package.*
/etc/portage/package.accept_keywords:=xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.1 ~x86

As I ran 'emerge -avuND @world' today, I got this output:
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  . . .. . done!
[ebuild  N ] sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.37  USE=-static-libs 0 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus-1.29  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools-0.3.2-r1  USE={-test} 0 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.109  USE=readline thin udev (-clvm)
(-cman) -device-mapper-only -lvm1 -lvm2create_initrd (-selinux)
-static -static-libs -systemd 0 kB
[ebuild  NS] sys-fs/udisks-1.0.5-r1:0 [2.1.3:2] USE=nls -debug
-remote-access (-selinux) 0 kB
[ebuild UD ] xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.0 [1.3.1]
USE=policykit udisks%* -debug -networkmanager -systemd (-lxpanel%)
XFCE_PLUGINS=brightness -battery 0 kB

Total: 6 packages (1 downgrade, 4 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 0 kB

emerge trying to downgrade a package, Is that a bug or feature? This
is the first time I've encountered it. I googled it as well, but so
far found nothing relevant.

The list's input would be appreciated.



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/16/2014 11:51 AM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1,
 which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a
 dependency.
 
 [ebuild UD ] xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.0 [1.3.1]
 USE=policykit udisks%* -debug -networkmanager -systemd (-lxpanel%)
 XFCE_PLUGINS=brightness -battery 0 kB
 
 Total: 6 packages (1 downgrade, 4 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 
 emerge trying to downgrade a package, Is that a bug or feature? This
 is the first time I've encountered it. I googled it as well, but so
 far found nothing relevant.

Version 1.3.1 (which you had installed) used two XFCE_PLUGINS: battery
and brightness. The newer 1.4.0 only uses power. Since you still
have brightness in your XFCE_PLUGINS, it's pulling in the only version
that supports that, the previous 1.3.0. Try replacing brightness with
power in your XFCE_PLUGINS.




Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 09/16/2014 11:51 AM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1,
 which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a
 dependency.

 [ebuild UD ] xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.0 [1.3.1]
 USE=policykit udisks%* -debug -networkmanager -systemd (-lxpanel%)
 XFCE_PLUGINS=brightness -battery 0 kB

 Total: 6 packages (1 downgrade, 4 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 0 
 kB

 emerge trying to downgrade a package, Is that a bug or feature? This
 is the first time I've encountered it. I googled it as well, but so
 far found nothing relevant.

 Version 1.3.1 (which you had installed) used two XFCE_PLUGINS: battery
 and brightness. The newer 1.4.0 only uses power. Since you still
 have brightness in your XFCE_PLUGINS, it's pulling in the only version
 that supports that, the previous 1.3.0. Try replacing brightness with
 power in your XFCE_PLUGINS.



Replacing brightness with power in XFCE_PLUGINS, followed by running
'emerge -avuND @world', still tried to downgrade the package in
question.

I then ran 'emerge -avuND 'xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.1'
which suggested adding '=xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.4.0 ~x86' to
/etc/portage/package.accept_keywords.

I did that, followed by running 'emerge -avuND @world', which pulled
in xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.4.0.

Thanks.



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/09/2014 17:51, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1,
 which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a
 dependency.
 
 grep xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager /etc/portage/package.*
 /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords:=xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.1 
 ~x86
 
 As I ran 'emerge -avuND @world' today, I got this output:
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies  . . .. . done!
 [ebuild  N ] sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.37  USE=-static-libs 0 kB
 [ebuild  N ] sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus-1.29  0 kB
 [ebuild  N ] sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools-0.3.2-r1  USE={-test} 0 
 kB
 [ebuild  N ] sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.109  USE=readline thin udev (-clvm)
 (-cman) -device-mapper-only -lvm1 -lvm2create_initrd (-selinux)
 -static -static-libs -systemd 0 kB
 [ebuild  NS] sys-fs/udisks-1.0.5-r1:0 [2.1.3:2] USE=nls -debug
 -remote-access (-selinux) 0 kB
 [ebuild UD ] xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.0 [1.3.1]
 USE=policykit udisks%* -debug -networkmanager -systemd (-lxpanel%)
 XFCE_PLUGINS=brightness -battery 0 kB
 
 Total: 6 packages (1 downgrade, 4 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 
 emerge trying to downgrade a package, Is that a bug or feature? This
 is the first time I've encountered it. I googled it as well, but so
 far found nothing relevant.

portage is doing what the ebuilds and make.conf tell it to do.

For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local
install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so.

Downgrades are not common, but neither are they unusual. It's not a
feature either, it's a necessaity that portage be able to do this.


 
 The list's input would be appreciated.
 
 
 


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 16/09/2014 17:51, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1,
 which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a
 dependency.

 grep xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager /etc/portage/package.*
 /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords:=xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.1 
 ~x86

 As I ran 'emerge -avuND @world' today, I got this output:
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies  . . .. . done!
 [ebuild  N ] sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.37  USE=-static-libs 0 kB
 [ebuild  N ] sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus-1.29  0 kB
 [ebuild  N ] sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools-0.3.2-r1  USE={-test} 0 
 kB
 [ebuild  N ] sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.109  USE=readline thin udev (-clvm)
 (-cman) -device-mapper-only -lvm1 -lvm2create_initrd (-selinux)
 -static -static-libs -systemd 0 kB
 [ebuild  NS] sys-fs/udisks-1.0.5-r1:0 [2.1.3:2] USE=nls -debug
 -remote-access (-selinux) 0 kB
 [ebuild UD ] xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.0 [1.3.1]
 USE=policykit udisks%* -debug -networkmanager -systemd (-lxpanel%)
 XFCE_PLUGINS=brightness -battery 0 kB

 Total: 6 packages (1 downgrade, 4 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 0 
 kB

 emerge trying to downgrade a package, Is that a bug or feature? This
 is the first time I've encountered it. I googled it as well, but so
 far found nothing relevant.

 portage is doing what the ebuilds and make.conf tell it to do.

 For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local
 install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so.

 Downgrades are not common, but neither are they unusual. It's not a
 feature either, it's a necessaity that portage be able to do this.



 The list's input would be appreciated.





 --
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com



Thanks for the explanation. I overlooked the fact that XFCE_PLUGINS is
a user-defined variable and didn't think to look for answers in the
xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager ebuild at the time.
The responses I got are certainly appreciated.



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
 For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local
 install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so.
 

Version 1.3.1 was removed from the tree, leaving only 1.3.0 to satisfy
XFCE_PLUGINS=battery/brightness.





Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/16/2014 12:39 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 
 Replacing brightness with power in XFCE_PLUGINS, followed by running
 'emerge -avuND @world', still tried to downgrade the package in
 question.
 
 I then ran 'emerge -avuND 'xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.1'
 which suggested adding '=xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.4.0 ~x86' to
 /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords.
 
 I did that, followed by running 'emerge -avuND @world', which pulled
 in xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.4.0.
 

Did you have 1.3.1 keyworded? Because it was ~x86 also when it was removed.





Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 09/16/2014 12:39 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

 Replacing brightness with power in XFCE_PLUGINS, followed by running
 'emerge -avuND @world', still tried to downgrade the package in
 question.

 I then ran 'emerge -avuND 'xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.1'
 which suggested adding '=xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.4.0 ~x86' to
 /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords.

 I did that, followed by running 'emerge -avuND @world', which pulled
 in xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.4.0.


 Did you have 1.3.1 keyworded? Because it was ~x86 also when it was removed.




Yes, I did have this stanza, '=xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.1
~x86', in my /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords.