Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[lee]

cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:

> lee  wrote:
>
>> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
>> 
>> > lee  wrote:
>> >
>> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > lee  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my 
>> >> >> > shares,
>> >> >> > I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives me 
>> >> >> > some
>> >> >> > kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
>> >> >> > Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security settings 
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a 
>> >> >> > hard
>> >> >> > blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
>> >> >> shares from a Linux client?
>> >> >
>> >> > These are on a Linux server, so there is no problem there.
>> >> 
>> >> Can you definitely mount the share from a remote Linux client without
>> >> problems?
>> >> 
>> >> > Changelog doesn't say anything but the version number.
>> >
>> > I don't have any remote linux client and this is samba, used so that
>> > windows can access the share.
>> 
>> You could make a copy of everything in the inaccessible share, make a
>> new share with settings identical to the settings of the shares that are
>> still accessible when copying has finished, and try to access the new
>> share with a remote client.
>> 
>> If you can access the new share, either something with the old one is
>> weird, or you have changed something like permissions or extended
>> attributes by copying.
>> 
>> 
>> If you cannot access the new share, try a different kernel version (or
>> try a different kernel version first).  I've had a case in which a
>> kernel would freeze/panic when the directory contents of a directory
>> that was exported via NFS were displayed with ls on a NFS client.
>> 
>> IIRC samba uses kernel support on the server.  Perhaps you have a
>> version mismatch between the new samba version and what the kernel
>> supports.
>
> The share is my whole system, so obviously I cannot copy to a new
> share.

You can still try a different kernel, preferably one that is compatible
with the samba version you're using.

Other than that, I don't understand why anyone would try to export the
whole system like that.  It sounds like a recipe for failure to me.

Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[covici]

lee  wrote:

> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> 
> > lee  wrote:
> >
> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> >> 
> >> > lee  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > lee  wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my 
> >> >> >> > shares,
> >> >> >> > I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives 
> >> >> >> > me some
> >> >> >> > kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
> >> >> >> > Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security 
> >> >> >> > settings for
> >> >> >> > any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a 
> >> >> >> > hard
> >> >> >> > blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
> >> >> >> shares from a Linux client?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > These are on a Linux server, so there is no problem there.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Can you definitely mount the share from a remote Linux client without
> >> >> problems?
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Changelog doesn't say anything but the version number.
> >> >
> >> > I don't have any remote linux client and this is samba, used so that
> >> > windows can access the share.
> >> 
> >> You could make a copy of everything in the inaccessible share, make a
> >> new share with settings identical to the settings of the shares that are
> >> still accessible when copying has finished, and try to access the new
> >> share with a remote client.
> >> 
> >> If you can access the new share, either something with the old one is
> >> weird, or you have changed something like permissions or extended
> >> attributes by copying.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> If you cannot access the new share, try a different kernel version (or
> >> try a different kernel version first).  I've had a case in which a
> >> kernel would freeze/panic when the directory contents of a directory
> >> that was exported via NFS were displayed with ls on a NFS client.
> >> 
> >> IIRC samba uses kernel support on the server.  Perhaps you have a
> >> version mismatch between the new samba version and what the kernel
> >> supports.
> >
> > The share is my whole system, so obviously I cannot copy to a new
> > share.
> 
> You can still try a different kernel, preferably one that is compatible
> with the samba version you're using.
> 
> Other than that, I don't understand why anyone would try to export the
> whole system like that.  It sounds like a recipe for failure to me.

Thanks for your response.

I have been using the same kernel for a while, so I don't think that is
the problem.  Its 4.1 the latest lts.

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Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[lee]

cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:

> lee  wrote:
>
>> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
>> 
>> > lee  wrote:
>> >
>> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my shares,
>> >> > I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives me some
>> >> > kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
>> >> > Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security settings for
>> >> > any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a hard
>> >> > blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>> >> 
>> >> Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
>> >> shares from a Linux client?
>> >
>> > These are on a Linux server, so there is no problem there.
>> 
>> Can you definitely mount the share from a remote Linux client without
>> problems?
>> 
>> > Changelog doesn't say anything but the version number.
>
> I don't have any remote linux client and this is samba, used so that
> windows can access the share.

You could make a copy of everything in the inaccessible share, make a
new share with settings identical to the settings of the shares that are
still accessible when copying has finished, and try to access the new
share with a remote client.

If you can access the new share, either something with the old one is
weird, or you have changed something like permissions or extended
attributes by copying.


If you cannot access the new share, try a different kernel version (or
try a different kernel version first).  I've had a case in which a
kernel would freeze/panic when the directory contents of a directory
that was exported via NFS were displayed with ls on a NFS client.

IIRC samba uses kernel support on the server.  Perhaps you have a
version mismatch between the new samba version and what the kernel
supports.

Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[covici]

lee  wrote:

> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> 
> > lee  wrote:
> >
> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> >> 
> >> > lee  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my 
> >> >> > shares,
> >> >> > I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives me 
> >> >> > some
> >> >> > kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
> >> >> > Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security settings 
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a 
> >> >> > hard
> >> >> > blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
> >> >> shares from a Linux client?
> >> >
> >> > These are on a Linux server, so there is no problem there.
> >> 
> >> Can you definitely mount the share from a remote Linux client without
> >> problems?
> >> 
> >> > Changelog doesn't say anything but the version number.
> >
> > I don't have any remote linux client and this is samba, used so that
> > windows can access the share.
> 
> You could make a copy of everything in the inaccessible share, make a
> new share with settings identical to the settings of the shares that are
> still accessible when copying has finished, and try to access the new
> share with a remote client.
> 
> If you can access the new share, either something with the old one is
> weird, or you have changed something like permissions or extended
> attributes by copying.
> 
> 
> If you cannot access the new share, try a different kernel version (or
> try a different kernel version first).  I've had a case in which a
> kernel would freeze/panic when the directory contents of a directory
> that was exported via NFS were displayed with ls on a NFS client.
> 
> IIRC samba uses kernel support on the server.  Perhaps you have a
> version mismatch between the new samba version and what the kernel
> supports.

The share is my whole system, so obviously I cannot copy to a new
share.  I have one share working correctly -- the files under that share
are owned by the user that I am logging in as, so if I log in as root,
you would think I could access everything, so this is very strange.

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Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[J. Roeleveld]

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 05:11:08 PM cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> lee  wrote:
> > cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> > > lee  wrote:
> > >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> > >> > lee  wrote:
> > >> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> > >> >> > Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my
> > >> >> > shares,
> > >> >> > I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives
> > >> >> > me some
> > >> >> > kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
> > >> >> > Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security
> > >> >> > settings for
> > >> >> > any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a
> > >> >> > hard
> > >> >> > blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
> > >> >> shares from a Linux client?
> > >> > 
> > >> > These are on a Linux server, so there is no problem there.
> > >> 
> > >> Can you definitely mount the share from a remote Linux client without
> > >> problems?
> > >> 
> > >> > Changelog doesn't say anything but the version number.
> > > 
> > > I don't have any remote linux client and this is samba, used so that
> > > windows can access the share.
> > 
> > You could make a copy of everything in the inaccessible share, make a
> > new share with settings identical to the settings of the shares that are
> > still accessible when copying has finished, and try to access the new
> > share with a remote client.
> > 
> > If you can access the new share, either something with the old one is
> > weird, or you have changed something like permissions or extended
> > attributes by copying.
> > 
> > 
> > If you cannot access the new share, try a different kernel version (or
> > try a different kernel version first).  I've had a case in which a
> > kernel would freeze/panic when the directory contents of a directory
> > that was exported via NFS were displayed with ls on a NFS client.
> > 
> > IIRC samba uses kernel support on the server.  Perhaps you have a
> > version mismatch between the new samba version and what the kernel
> > supports.
> 
> The share is my whole system, so obviously I cannot copy to a new
> share.  I have one share working correctly -- the files under that share
> are owned by the user that I am logging in as, so if I log in as root,
> you would think I could access everything, so this is very strange.

Not necessarily, samba doesn't allow root automatically access to everything.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[covici]

J. Roeleveld  wrote:

> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 05:11:08 PM cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > lee  wrote:
> > > cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> > > > lee  wrote:
> > > >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> > > >> > lee  wrote:
> > > >> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> > > >> >> > Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my
> > > >> >> > shares,
> > > >> >> > I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives
> > > >> >> > me some
> > > >> >> > kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
> > > >> >> > Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security
> > > >> >> > settings for
> > > >> >> > any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a
> > > >> >> > hard
> > > >> >> > blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
> > > >> >> > 
> > > >> >> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
> > > >> >> shares from a Linux client?
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > These are on a Linux server, so there is no problem there.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Can you definitely mount the share from a remote Linux client without
> > > >> problems?
> > > >> 
> > > >> > Changelog doesn't say anything but the version number.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't have any remote linux client and this is samba, used so that
> > > > windows can access the share.
> > > 
> > > You could make a copy of everything in the inaccessible share, make a
> > > new share with settings identical to the settings of the shares that are
> > > still accessible when copying has finished, and try to access the new
> > > share with a remote client.
> > > 
> > > If you can access the new share, either something with the old one is
> > > weird, or you have changed something like permissions or extended
> > > attributes by copying.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you cannot access the new share, try a different kernel version (or
> > > try a different kernel version first).  I've had a case in which a
> > > kernel would freeze/panic when the directory contents of a directory
> > > that was exported via NFS were displayed with ls on a NFS client.
> > > 
> > > IIRC samba uses kernel support on the server.  Perhaps you have a
> > > version mismatch between the new samba version and what the kernel
> > > supports.
> > 
> > The share is my whole system, so obviously I cannot copy to a new
> > share.  I have one share working correctly -- the files under that share
> > are owned by the user that I am logging in as, so if I log in as root,
> > you would think I could access everything, so this is very strange.
> 
> Not necessarily, samba doesn't allow root automatically access to everything.

OK, thanks, what are the conditions for that, or where can I find them
out?  

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Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[covici]

lee  wrote:

> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> 
> > lee  wrote:
> >
> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> >> 
> >> > Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my shares,
> >> > I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives me some
> >> > kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
> >> > Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security settings for
> >> > any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a hard
> >> > blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >> 
> >> Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
> >> shares from a Linux client?
> >
> > These are on a Linux server, so there is no problem there.
> 
> Can you definitely mount the share from a remote Linux client without
> problems?
> 
> > Changelog doesn't say anything but the version number.

I don't have any remote linux client and this is samba, used so that
windows can access the share.


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Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[lee]

cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:

> lee  wrote:
>
>> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
>> 
>> > Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my shares,
>> > I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives me some
>> > kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
>> > Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security settings for
>> > any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a hard
>> > blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
>> shares from a Linux client?
>
> These are on a Linux server, so there is no problem there.

Can you definitely mount the share from a remote Linux client without
problems?

> Changelog doesn't say anything but the version number.

They have lots of changelogs which say more than that:
https://www.samba.org/samba/history/

[gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[covici]

Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my shares,
I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives me some
kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security settings for
any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a hard
blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[covici]

lee  wrote:

> cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:
> 
> > Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my shares,
> > I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives me some
> > kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
> > Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security settings for
> > any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a hard
> > blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
> shares from a Linux client?

These are on a Linux server, so there is no problem there.  Changelog
doesn't say  anything but the version number.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] major problem after samba update

[lee]

cov...@ccs.covici.com writes:

> Hi.  I just upgraded from samba 4.1.x to 4.2.7 and in one of my shares,
> I can not access any subfolders of that share.  It usually gives me some
> kind of windows permission error, or just location not available.
> Windows tells me I can't even display the advanced security settings for
> any folder.  Anyone know what they did and how to fix?  There is a hard
> blocker to downgrading, so maybe something is up.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Do they have a changelog which you looked at?  Can you mount these
shares from a Linux client?