220915 Mark Knecht wrote:
> I don't think PCIe 4.0 would, in this sort of machine,
> have much to do with compile times.
> This level of machine has an NVMe flash drive for the system disk.
> My machine has 2 x 1 TB NVMe SSDs and no mechanical drives.

Thanks lots : that's the crucial advice I was looking for.

I've reviewed what's available at local stores again (Downtown is closest) :

CPU + Mobo : available 220914
 ( D downtown  M midtown  N NYork  S Scarboro  d delivery ; o openbox ) :

CPU : must incl graphix + cooler

AMD :

  (1) CPAMD00130 : Ryzen 5 : 5600G : $ 187 (350)
   6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0
   Socket AM4 : 3.9 GHz , boost 4.4 GHz
   Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W 
  Available 220915 : D  5   M  5   N 10   S  7   d  y

  (2) CPAMD00141 : Ryzen 5 : 4600G : $ 200
   6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe ? (sb 3.0)
   Socket AM4 : 3.7 GHz , boost 4.2 GHz 
   Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W
  Available 220915 : D  1   M  -   N  1   S  -   d  y

  (3) CPAMD00131 : Ryzen 7 : 5700G : $ 310 (470) : *** looks best ***
   8-Core/16-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0
   Socket AM4 : 3.8 GHz , boost 4.6 GHz 
   Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth cooler : 65 W
  Available 220915 : D  1   M  1   N  1   S  1   d  y

Intel : lowest price w  8  cores ;
  doesn't look competitive : 14 nm ; no fan ; $ 110 > AMD 00131 ;
  installation challenges : Intel pins are on the mobo, so damage easier ;
   it used to be more of a challenge to fit the fan on the CPU w Intel.

  (1) CPINT00159 : Intel Core i9-11900K : $ 420 (600) : *** not attractive ***
   8-Core/16-Thread : 14 nm : Socket LGA 1200
   (Intel 500 + select 400 Series) Unlocked
   3.5 GHz , turbo 5.3 GHz : 11th
   UHD Graphics 750 : 125 W : no cooler ?
  Available 220919 : D  2   M  1   N  -   S  -   d  y

Mobo: AMD : *** not clear there's much difference ***

  (1) MBGIG00135 : Gigabyte : X570 AORUS ELITE : $ 220 (300)
   12+2 Phase Digital VRM with DrMOS
   Advanced Thermal Design with Enlarge Heatsink
   Dual PCIe 4.0 M.2 w Single Thermal Guard
   Intel GbE LAN w cFosSpeed, Front USB Type-C, RGB Fusion 2.0
  Available 220914 : D  3   M  4   N  6   S  3   d  y

  (2) MBGIG00261 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS ELITE : $ 250 (330)
   AX AMD X570 DDR4
   Wi-Fi 6E : Bluetooth
   PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX
  Available 220914 : D  4   M  2   N  9   S  2   d  y

  (3) MBGIG00260 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS PRO : $ 280 (390)
   AX Socket AM4 AMD X570 DDR4
   Wi-Fi 6 Bluetooth
   PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX
  Available 220914 : D  2   M  2   N  5   S  1   d  y

  (4) MBGIG00242 : Gigabyte : X570S AERO G : $ 300 (470)
   AMD X570 : 4 x DDR4 DIMM : 128 GB
   Intel Wi-Fi 6E
   PCIe 4.0 : USB Type-C M.2
  Available 220914 : D  2   M  1   N  1   S  1   d  y

-- end of review --

Intel seems to offer inferior product for higher price : comparison only.

AMD : I want  8  cores with  16  threads.
I want graphics + cooling included with the CPU.
PCIe 3.0 is adequate for what I do : with  32 GB  memory
everything sb compilable there with no need to use the SSD ;
ANB5 (my present machine) has DDR3, so ANB6's DDR4 wb faster.
Price differences aren't important in themselves among these choices.
There is free WiFi where I live, tho' landline mb better for security.

Thanks for the advice so far : further comments are very welcome.

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