220915 Mark Knecht wrote: > I don't think PCIe 4.0 would, in this sort of machine, > have much to do with compile times. > This level of machine has an NVMe flash drive for the system disk. > My machine has 2 x 1 TB NVMe SSDs and no mechanical drives.
Thanks lots : that's the crucial advice I was looking for. I've reviewed what's available at local stores again (Downtown is closest) : CPU + Mobo : available 220914 ( D downtown M midtown N NYork S Scarboro d delivery ; o openbox ) : CPU : must incl graphix + cooler AMD : (1) CPAMD00130 : Ryzen 5 : 5600G : $ 187 (350) 6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0 Socket AM4 : 3.9 GHz , boost 4.4 GHz Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W Available 220915 : D 5 M 5 N 10 S 7 d y (2) CPAMD00141 : Ryzen 5 : 4600G : $ 200 6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe ? (sb 3.0) Socket AM4 : 3.7 GHz , boost 4.2 GHz Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W Available 220915 : D 1 M - N 1 S - d y (3) CPAMD00131 : Ryzen 7 : 5700G : $ 310 (470) : *** looks best *** 8-Core/16-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0 Socket AM4 : 3.8 GHz , boost 4.6 GHz Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth cooler : 65 W Available 220915 : D 1 M 1 N 1 S 1 d y Intel : lowest price w 8 cores ; doesn't look competitive : 14 nm ; no fan ; $ 110 > AMD 00131 ; installation challenges : Intel pins are on the mobo, so damage easier ; it used to be more of a challenge to fit the fan on the CPU w Intel. (1) CPINT00159 : Intel Core i9-11900K : $ 420 (600) : *** not attractive *** 8-Core/16-Thread : 14 nm : Socket LGA 1200 (Intel 500 + select 400 Series) Unlocked 3.5 GHz , turbo 5.3 GHz : 11th UHD Graphics 750 : 125 W : no cooler ? Available 220919 : D 2 M 1 N - S - d y Mobo: AMD : *** not clear there's much difference *** (1) MBGIG00135 : Gigabyte : X570 AORUS ELITE : $ 220 (300) 12+2 Phase Digital VRM with DrMOS Advanced Thermal Design with Enlarge Heatsink Dual PCIe 4.0 M.2 w Single Thermal Guard Intel GbE LAN w cFosSpeed, Front USB Type-C, RGB Fusion 2.0 Available 220914 : D 3 M 4 N 6 S 3 d y (2) MBGIG00261 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS ELITE : $ 250 (330) AX AMD X570 DDR4 Wi-Fi 6E : Bluetooth PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX Available 220914 : D 4 M 2 N 9 S 2 d y (3) MBGIG00260 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS PRO : $ 280 (390) AX Socket AM4 AMD X570 DDR4 Wi-Fi 6 Bluetooth PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX Available 220914 : D 2 M 2 N 5 S 1 d y (4) MBGIG00242 : Gigabyte : X570S AERO G : $ 300 (470) AMD X570 : 4 x DDR4 DIMM : 128 GB Intel Wi-Fi 6E PCIe 4.0 : USB Type-C M.2 Available 220914 : D 2 M 1 N 1 S 1 d y -- end of review -- Intel seems to offer inferior product for higher price : comparison only. AMD : I want 8 cores with 16 threads. I want graphics + cooling included with the CPU. PCIe 3.0 is adequate for what I do : with 32 GB memory everything sb compilable there with no need to use the SSD ; ANB5 (my present machine) has DDR3, so ANB6's DDR4 wb faster. Price differences aren't important in themselves among these choices. There is free WiFi where I live, tho' landline mb better for security. Thanks for the advice so far : further comments are very welcome. -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca