Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers conflicts

2010-04-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 24 April 2010 12:56:13 Peter Humphrey wrote:

 Let's hope the upgrade is a simple one for the Gentoo devs to
 incorporate into an ebuild. With any luck we'll have it in the next
 week.

Indeed, it has appeared today:

$ equery l nvidia-drivers
 * Searching for nvidiadrivers ...
[IP-] [  ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.24:0

Installed happily.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers conflicts

2010-04-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 24 April 2010 01:22:53 Peter Ruskin wrote:
 On Saturday 24 April 2010 00:08:46 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
  
  before getting into too much trouble better I aask:
  
  While updateing I got the following message:
  ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0', 'merge')
  
  conflicts with x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.99 required by
  ('installed', '/', 'x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.15',
  'nomerge')
  
  !!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to
  
  unsatisfied dependencies !!! triggered by backtracking:
  x11-apps/xinit:0
  
  The first one I understand what I wants to say, but: Is the
  conflict based on the limition of the nvidia-driver not to run
  with xorg-server-1.8.0 even when recompiled after the new
  xorg-server is reinstalled or does the latter help to circumvent
  the problem?
  
  What the second message wants to tell me is far beyond my
  knowledge ... :)
 
 You don't need to do a thing.  Until nvidia comes out with a driver
 compatible with xorg-server-1.8, portage will keep you with 1.7.
 Portage is also telling you that, because it's keeping xorg-server
 at 1.7 it won't upgrade xinit.
 
 See Bug http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315141


The happy news is that nvidia released a driver with xorg-1.8 support on 23 
Apr:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=150325


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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers conflicts

2010-04-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 24 April 2010 10:46:17 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 The happy news is that nvidia released a driver with xorg-1.8 support
 on 23 Apr:
 
 http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=150325

Good news! Let's hope the upgrade is a simple one for the Gentoo devs to 
incorporate into an ebuild. With any luck we'll have it in the next 
week.

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Peter.



[gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers conflicts

2010-04-23 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

before getting into too much trouble better I aask:
While updateing I got the following message:

('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0', 'merge') conflicts with
  x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.99 required by ('installed', '/', 
'x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.15', 'nomerge')


!!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied 
dependencies
!!! triggered by backtracking:
x11-apps/xinit:0


The first one I understand what I wants to say, but: Is the conflict
based on the limition of the nvidia-driver not to run with
xorg-server-1.8.0 even when recompiled after the new xorg-server
is reinstalled or does the latter help to circumvent the problem?

What the second message wants to tell me is far beyond my knowledge ... :)

Thank you very much for your help in advance!
Best regards, 
mcc



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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers conflicts

2010-04-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 24 April 2010 01:08:46 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
 before getting into too much trouble better I aask:
 While updateing I got the following message:
 
 ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0', 'merge') conflicts
 with x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.99 required by ('installed', '/',
 'x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.15', 'nomerge')
 
 
 !!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied
 dependencies !!! triggered by backtracking:
 x11-apps/xinit:0
 
 
 The first one I understand what I wants to say, but: Is the conflict
 based on the limition of the nvidia-driver not to run with
 xorg-server-1.8.0 even when recompiled after the new xorg-server
 is reinstalled or does the latter help to circumvent the problem?

The former:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315141#c3

 
 What the second message wants to tell me is far beyond my knowledge ... :)

It's portage trying to tell you how those incompatible versions are in the 
list to be emerged. A backtrack is simply that - start with what you have, 
find out what pulled it in, and what pulled that in, till you come to the end 
(usually something in your world file).

Without digging into ebuilds, it looks like xinit pulls in xorg-x11 which 
pulls in xorg-server which conflicts with nvidia-drivers,.

This is a classic case of rule #1 of program output: never expose the 
underlying implementation in your output. That info is completely useless to 
most users and needs re-thinking. Decent programming practice says that output 
shout only be given if the user asks for it like that, with say a --debug 
option for example.

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