[gentoo-user] old EEE PC 1000
I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo, it would be too slow to compile anything. It is running Ubuntu 11.10 and I think I'll need to re-install lighter version of Linux on it. What are my alternatives? I'll would like to run VPN, some browser on it and skype. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] old EEE PC 1000
On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 18:05:44 -0700, Joseph wrote: > I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo, it > would be too slow to compile anything. I had one of those when they weren't so old. It will definitely run Gentoo, in fact the configurability of Gentoo makes it good for low powered machines. Compiling it is a different matter, I used a chroot on a faster machine to build binary packages. -- Neil Bothwick Electrocution, n.: Burning at the stake with all the modern improvements. pgp_tIkhQVY4L.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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150208 Joseph wrote: > I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo : > it would be too slow to compile anything. I've just successfully updated my 1005 Ha , bought in 2009. Gcc-4.8.3 took 3 h 35 m to compile. I avoid KDE Firefox LO . -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] old EEE PC 1000
Am Sonntag, 08.02.2015 um 18:05 schrieb Joseph : > I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo, > it would be too slow to compile anything. It is running Ubuntu 11.10 > and I think I'll need to re-install lighter version of Linux on it. > What are my alternatives? > > I'll would like to run VPN, some browser on it and skype. > On slow machines I tend to install xubuntu. Regards wabe
Re: [gentoo-user] old EEE PC 1000
On Sun, Feb 08, 2015 at 06:05:44PM -0700, Joseph wrote: > I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo, it would > be too slow to compile anything. > It is running Ubuntu 11.10 and I think I'll need to re-install lighter > version of Linux on it. > What are my alternatives? > > I'll would like to run VPN, some browser on it and skype. I have an R101, which is a trimmed-down 1000-something. Arch linux's Pacman is a very fast package manager. While portage takes 15 minutes just to calculate dependencies, pacman upgrads 1 Gig worth of packages in that time. Compiling Firefox had no measurable benefit, either version took 20 seconds to open. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. Development aid is to give money from the poor of rich countries to the rich of poor countries. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] old EEE PC 1000
On Sun, Feb 08, 2015 at 06:05:44PM -0700, Joseph wrote: > I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo, it would > be too slow to compile anything. > It is running Ubuntu 11.10 and I think I'll need to re-install lighter > version of Linux on it. > What are my alternatives? > > I'll would like to run VPN, some browser on it and skype. Hi I ran Gentoo on my EEE PC 1000 some time ago. It wasn't that bad. building stuff took some time but I even had suff like (then) openoffice, webkit-gtk and chromium on it. It'll take a while to build, but I was finde with that. It even felt more performant than Ubuntu on the same device. Judging from my current setup (no DE, dwm+other suckless stuff) I guess it's no problem at all: skype is binary only anyways and there are at least two binary browsers: firefox-bin and google-chrome. I'd recomment to give Gentoo a try as long as you don't have other, non-Gentoo-satisfiably motives... WKR Hinnerk PS: I don't think that there is a lighter version of Linux that Gentoo if you configure it for "lightness". PPS: If you really want something else I can recommend Alpine Linux, though it still isn't Gentoo. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Hello, On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 18:05:44 -0700 Joseph wrote: > I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo, it would > be too slow to compile anything. > It is running Ubuntu 11.10 and I think I'll need to re-install lighter > version of Linux on it. > What are my alternatives? Just use Gentoo. I have an EeePC 1000H and it runs fine. Well, I replaced memory bank with 2GB one and setup my system to be slightly overclocked (1700 MHz) when on AC power using SHE technology (available in linux kernel). But even without memory upgrade hardware is fine. > I'll would like to run VPN, some browser on it and skype. VPNs are lightweight packages (e.g. openvpn). Both firefox and chromium are not a problem. Skype is binary only, so no difference from other distributions here. The only real problem with this hardware are @world updates. To facilitate this process use ccache and distcc. You most likely have another more powerful box (e.g. a desktop or more powerful laptop), so you can setup distcc there regardless of the distribution. So powerful box will compile C/C++/ObjC code for you, while EeePC will handle If by some chance you have another peace of very powreful hardware (e.g. 2x recent Xeon) there is another approach to follow. You may export root filesystem from EeePC to that host via NFS, setarch and chroot to it and run all stuff from your powerful box. This way the only bottleneck will be 100 Mbps network interface, which is quite bearable, especially using caching (like cachefilesd). Yet again, all these tricks are required for @world updates only, for other stuff EeePC is self sufficient box. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpyDJl2Xegal.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On 02/09/15 23:54, Andrew Savchenko wrote: Hello, On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 18:05:44 -0700 Joseph wrote: I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo, it would be too slow to compile anything. It is running Ubuntu 11.10 and I think I'll need to re-install lighter version of Linux on it. What are my alternatives? Just use Gentoo. I have an EeePC 1000H and it runs fine. Well, I replaced memory bank with 2GB one and setup my system to be slightly overclocked (1700 MHz) when on AC power using SHE technology (available in linux kernel). But even without memory upgrade hardware is fine. I'll would like to run VPN, some browser on it and skype. VPNs are lightweight packages (e.g. openvpn). Both firefox and chromium are not a problem. Skype is binary only, so no difference from other distributions here. The only real problem with this hardware are @world updates. To facilitate this process use ccache and distcc. You most likely have another more powerful box (e.g. a desktop or more powerful laptop), so you can setup distcc there regardless of the distribution. So powerful box will compile C/C++/ObjC code for you, while EeePC will handle If by some chance you have another peace of very powreful hardware (e.g. 2x recent Xeon) there is another approach to follow. You may export root filesystem from EeePC to that host via NFS, setarch and chroot to it and run all stuff from your powerful box. This way the only bottleneck will be 100 Mbps network interface, which is quite bearable, especially using caching (like cachefilesd). Yet again, all these tricks are required for @world updates only, for other stuff EeePC is self sufficient box. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko I've installed xubuntu as I need it fast. I know it will take me a week or so to configure and compile Gentoo on it, just to boot strap. And it would take me some time to configure distcc on my faster boxes for compilation, especially that it was a long time ago when I plaid with it. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] old EEE PC 1000
On 02/09/15 02:24, waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 08.02.2015 um 18:05 schrieb Joseph : I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo, it would be too slow to compile anything. It is running Ubuntu 11.10 and I think I'll need to re-install lighter version of Linux on it. What are my alternatives? I'll would like to run VPN, some browser on it and skype. On slow machines I tend to install xubuntu. Regards wabe I've tried "xubuntu" but I can not install freenx on it. The documentation doesn't exist and it is not in default repository. What alternatives are there. I know Gentoo might work, I would need to boot strap, configure kernel and setup distcc, one week work. -- Joseph
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On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 07:06:15PM -0700, Joseph wrote: > On 02/09/15 02:24, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > >Am Sonntag, 08.02.2015 um 18:05 > >schrieb Joseph : > > > >> I have an old Asus EEE PC 1000 and I don't think it will run Gentoo, > >> it would be too slow to compile anything. It is running Ubuntu 11.10 > >> and I think I'll need to re-install lighter version of Linux on it. > >> What are my alternatives? > >> > >> I'll would like to run VPN, some browser on it and skype. > >> > > > >On slow machines I tend to install xubuntu. > > > >Regards > >wabe > > I've tried "xubuntu" but I can not install freenx on it. The documentation > doesn't exist and it is not in default repository. > What alternatives are there. I know Gentoo might work, I would need to boot > strap, configure kernel and setup distcc, one week work. > > -- > Joseph On my oldest machine (Dell laptop from 1998), with 4GiB HDD and 128 mb of ram, I run OpenBSD and it works perfectly, given the circumstances. All binaries, so no compiling. True, I can't use Firefox, Thunderbird, or other real RAM hogs, but I can use X, lightweight graphical browsers, mutt, etc. Install time is about one-half hour.
Re: [gentoo-user] old EEE PC 1000
On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 19:06:15 -0700, Joseph wrote: > I've tried "xubuntu" but I can not install freenx on it. The > documentation doesn't exist and it is not in default repository. What > alternatives are there. I know Gentoo might work, I would need to boot > strap, configure kernel and setup distcc, one week work. Instead of installing in a chroot on the netbook, create the chroot on a faster machine. You don't even need an install CD that way, just run everything while still using the system. When installation is complete, rsync the chroot to the root filesystem of the netbook. -- Neil Bothwick Hospitality: making your guests feel like they're at home, even if you wish they were. pgpRKruKWtVRV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 12:46:47 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 19:06:15 -0700, Joseph wrote: > > I've tried "xubuntu" but I can not install freenx on it. The > > documentation doesn't exist and it is not in default repository. What > > alternatives are there. I know Gentoo might work, I would need to boot > > strap, configure kernel and setup distcc, one week work. > > Instead of installing in a chroot on the netbook, create the chroot on a > faster machine. You don't even need an install CD that way, just run > everything while still using the system. When installation is complete, > rsync the chroot to the root filesystem of the netbook. I can see this being attractive for Rasberry Pi2. Has anyone installed Gentoo on it yet and would you know if there are any binaries available? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
