Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update add hald default or boot?

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:43:47 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Thanks for the responses guys. I've always had it at default also. I
 was just wondering.

The elog message states it should be in default.

 Now, does hald need dbus? Require dbus? Interesting. I have dbus
 installed but it's not running because it caused the Jack sound server
 problems. Not even sure what it does or why I should need it but it
 caused more problems for me and I couldn't tell what it helped with.
 
 When should dbus be started if I run it? As a boot level process or
 default also?

The hald init script includes need dbus, so you don't need to worry
about it. The script will start dbus for you at the right time.


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[gentoo-user] rc-update add hald default or boot?

2009-04-13 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I've wondered for a while whether the design intention of hald was
to be run at boot time or as a default level process? Googling for
'rc-update add hald default' turns up more responses than it does for
boot, but they are both out there. Seems like if you wanted to
recognize hardware it would be good to do it at boot time, but maybe
it just doesn't work...

   This Gentoo page says default, which is the way I'm using it:

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/HAL

but I've seen a few emails from some very knowledgeable folks who have
said boot when answering questions on these lists. Possibly they just
made a mistake or were making assumptions. Don't know.

   It's not even mentioned in the X86 handbook:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1

   So, for clarity and correctness, which way is the intended way to use it?

   Asking because of problems created with the new xorg-x11 update.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update add hald default or boot?

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
   I've wondered for a while whether the design intention of hald was
 to be run at boot time or as a default level process?

I have had mine at default forever and it seems to work fine.



Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update add hald default or boot?

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Edenfield

Mark Knecht wrote:

Hi,
   I've wondered for a while whether the design intention of hald was
to be run at boot time or as a default level process? Googling for


It's intended that you'll be running it at the default 
level.  Hal requires D-BUS, which means it needs to be run 
at the earliest after your local mounts, clock, etc. are 
started.  If you put them both into the boot runlevel I 
don't see why it would necessarily hurt, but it doesn't need 
to be there to work properly.


--Mike



Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update add hald default or boot?

2009-04-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:

 Hi,
   I've wondered for a while whether the design intention of hald was
 to be run at boot time or as a default level process? Googling for

 It's intended that you'll be running it at the default level.  Hal requires
 D-BUS, which means it needs to be run at the earliest after your local
 mounts, clock, etc. are started.  If you put them both into the boot
 runlevel I don't see why it would necessarily hurt, but it doesn't need to
 be there to work properly.

 --Mike



Thanks for the responses guys. I've always had it at default also. I
was just wondering.

Now, does hald need dbus? Require dbus? Interesting. I have dbus
installed but it's not running because it caused the Jack sound server
problems. Not even sure what it does or why I should need it but it
caused more problems for me and I couldn't tell what it helped with.

When should dbus be started if I run it? As a boot level process or
default also?

Thanks,
Mark