Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:26:22 +, Mick wrote: Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? No, wpa_supplicant is a dependency of wicd. -- Neil Bothwick SCSI: System Can't See It signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 13 December 2010 09:04, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:26:22 +, Mick wrote: Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? No, wpa_supplicant is a dependency of wicd. Right, I thought as much, but Valmor's removal of /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf through me out. Can wicd write to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 02:02:55PM +, Mick wrote: Right, I thought as much, but Valmor's removal of /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf through me out. Can wicd write to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? I don't know, but, then again, why would it need to? I know that wicd does write *somewhere* to save the settings. If it can call wpa_supplicant, it can also call it with the -c option if it needs to, no? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 12/13/2010 09:02 AM, Mick wrote: On 13 December 2010 09:04, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:26:22 +, Mick wrote: Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? No, wpa_supplicant is a dependency of wicd. Right, I thought as much, but Valmor's removal of /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf through me out. Can wicd write to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? I can't find it anywhere. So I guess no. On wireless right now. -- Valmor
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:02:55 +, Mick wrote: Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? No, wpa_supplicant is a dependency of wicd. Right, I thought as much, but Valmor's removal of /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf through me out. That wasn't necessary, but at l;east it made sure it wasn't in @world. Can wicd write to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? I suppose it could if it really wanted to, but that would be a bit unkind if you were maintaining that file manually. Wicd keeps all its settings in /etc/wicd. -- Neil Bothwick Our bikinis are exciting. They are simply the tops. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do - emerge -vp wicd I get These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE=nls -multicall 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE=-doc -examples -test 483 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE=-examples 233 kB [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE=X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils (-ioctl) -libnotify 402 kB Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it to configure my wireless net right? I am asking this because I am using wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use one or the other. Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of ifplugd? Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:34 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do - emerge -vp wicd I get These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE=nls -multicall 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE=-doc -examples -test 483 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE=-examples 233 kB [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE=X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils (-ioctl) -libnotify 402 kB Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it to configure my wireless net right? You are going to take the entirety of net.* except net.lo as installed by baselayout/openrc/whatever and get rid of it. That stuff never worked right for anything except servers with fixed IPs I am asking this because I am using wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use one or the other. Discard /etc/conf.d/net That's part of the thing you are getting rid of Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of ifplugd? Yes. Just following the wicd docs and it will all work just fine -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 12/12/2010 04:46 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:34 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do - emerge -vp wicd I get These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE=nls -multicall 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE=-doc -examples -test 483 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE=-examples 233 kB [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE=X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils (-ioctl) -libnotify 402 kB Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it to configure my wireless net right? You are going to take the entirety of net.* except net.lo as installed by baselayout/openrc/whatever and get rid of it. That stuff never worked right for anything except servers with fixed IPs I am asking this because I am using wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use one or the other. Discard /etc/conf.d/net That's part of the thing you are getting rid of Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of ifplugd? Yes. Just following the wicd docs and it will all work just fine Thank you very much. I don't know how this magic is happening since I had posted another message in this list on problems with wpa_supplicant and frequent dropouts during connection. I am now sending this e-mail with a wireless connection. For the record, what I had to do was: emerge --unmerge ifplugd wpa_supplicant rm /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf rm /etc/conf.d/net touch /etc/conf.d/net rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 rm /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 emerge -av wicd emerge wicd /etc/init.d/wicd start rc-update add wicd boot reboot and check wired connection. disconnect, turn on wireless wicd-client -n Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Monday 13 December 2010 07:05:20 Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 12/12/2010 04:46 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:34 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do - emerge -vp wicd I get These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE=nls -multicall 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE=-doc -examples -test 483 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE=-examples 233 kB [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE=X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils (-ioctl) -libnotify 402 kB Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it to configure my wireless net right? You are going to take the entirety of net.* except net.lo as installed by baselayout/openrc/whatever and get rid of it. That stuff never worked right for anything except servers with fixed IPs I am asking this because I am using wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use one or the other. Discard /etc/conf.d/net That's part of the thing you are getting rid of Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of ifplugd? Yes. Just following the wicd docs and it will all work just fine Thank you very much. I don't know how this magic is happening since I had posted another message in this list on problems with wpa_supplicant and frequent dropouts during connection. I am now sending this e-mail with a wireless connection. For the record, what I had to do was: emerge --unmerge ifplugd wpa_supplicant rm /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf rm /etc/conf.d/net touch /etc/conf.d/net rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 rm /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 emerge -av wicd emerge wicd /etc/init.d/wicd start rc-update add wicd boot reboot and check wired connection. disconnect, turn on wireless wicd-client -n Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
