Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:17:11 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

  Tuxonice also includes kernel patches, so it isn't only using what the
  kernel provides. You can use the tuxonice scripts with a vanilla
  kernel, you just miss out on the extra features.  
 
 Sure. But what are the extras in S2R-context? What do I miss?

The most obvious is the ability to abort a suspend or resume.



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Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.02.2011 09:41, schrieb Neil Bothwick:
 On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:17:11 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Sure. But what are the extras in S2R-context? What do I miss?
 
 The most obvious is the ability to abort a suspend or resume.

That was my impression as well. I don't really need that.
S2R is fast here, and resuming also ...

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-01 Thread Gregory SACRE
Hi Stephan,


Frankly, I don't think it would bring anything to you, except maybe
the possibility to cancel a suspension on the fly and maybe some check
when coming from suspension.

I'm using tuxonice only for the suspend to disk, but even there, the
kernel has some builtin features that would be sufficient for me (I'm
lazy, I don't want to try ;-)).

tuxonice is mainly some wrapping scripts that makes the suspension
more feature full than the bare kernel provided but in the end, they
still use what the kernel provides.

In your case, I don't think it's mandatory to use tuxonice.


HTH,

Greg

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:

 Greets,

 I use suspend-to-ram all the time on my desktop-machine as well.
 Energy-saving and quicker for me ... it works fine.

 I use the tuxonice-sources for this, back then it was more reliable with
 my hardware. Usually the ebuild for tuxonice-sources is some weeks later
 than gentoo-sources. As I am always curious for the latest stable kernel
 I often run gentoo-sources inbetween (and think to myself I can get by
 without S2R for a while).

 Now I have noticed that hibernate-ram works with plain gentoo-sources
 as well. And it does so without a problem. Fine!

 Is there any real advantage in using tuxonice here? Pls note that I only
 use S2R, and never suspend to disk  all the disk-related features of
 tuxonice aren't important to me.

 Thanks for your opinions, Stefan





Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 01.02.2011 14:55, schrieb Gregory SACRE:
 Hi Stephan,
 
 
 Frankly, I don't think it would bring anything to you, except maybe
 the possibility to cancel a suspension on the fly and maybe some check
 when coming from suspension.
 
 I'm using tuxonice only for the suspend to disk, but even there, the
 kernel has some builtin features that would be sufficient for me (I'm
 lazy, I don't want to try ;-)).
 
 tuxonice is mainly some wrapping scripts that makes the suspension
 more feature full than the bare kernel provided but in the end, they
 still use what the kernel provides.
 
 In your case, I don't think it's mandatory to use tuxonice.

Thanks, Greg!



Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:55:43 +0100, Gregory SACRE wrote:

 tuxonice is mainly some wrapping scripts that makes the suspension
 more feature full than the bare kernel provided but in the end, they
 still use what the kernel provides.

Tuxonice also includes kernel patches, so it isn't only using what the
kernel provides. You can use the tuxonice scripts with a vanilla kernel,
you just miss out on the extra features.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The cow is nothing but a machine which makes grass fit for us people to
eat.


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Re: [gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-02-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.02.2011 00:33, schrieb Neil Bothwick:
 On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:55:43 +0100, Gregory SACRE wrote:
 
 tuxonice is mainly some wrapping scripts that makes the suspension
 more feature full than the bare kernel provided but in the end, they
 still use what the kernel provides.
 
 Tuxonice also includes kernel patches, so it isn't only using what the
 kernel provides. You can use the tuxonice scripts with a vanilla kernel,
 you just miss out on the extra features.

Sure. But what are the extras in S2R-context? What do I miss?

But: as long as I don't know, I don't miss ;-)
And as I don't miss anything, it seems sufficient for me 

Most of the features listed on the project-site belongs to
suspend-to-disk, so I just give the plain kernel a try again.

Stefan



[gentoo-user] tuxonice and suspend-to-ram

2011-01-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

Greets,

I use suspend-to-ram all the time on my desktop-machine as well.
Energy-saving and quicker for me ... it works fine.

I use the tuxonice-sources for this, back then it was more reliable with
my hardware. Usually the ebuild for tuxonice-sources is some weeks later
than gentoo-sources. As I am always curious for the latest stable kernel
I often run gentoo-sources inbetween (and think to myself I can get by
without S2R for a while).

Now I have noticed that hibernate-ram works with plain gentoo-sources
as well. And it does so without a problem. Fine!

Is there any real advantage in using tuxonice here? Pls note that I only
use S2R, and never suspend to disk  all the disk-related features of
tuxonice aren't important to me.

Thanks for your opinions, Stefan