Re: [gentoo-user] udev and fstab
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:30:08 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: udev handles the creation of the device nodes, mounting is handled by hal. hal normally creates its own mount points in /media, but if the device is listed in /etc/fstab, it will use whatever is in there. How do you know that mounting is handled by hal on his machine? He didn't say so. He could also use the kernel automounter to create /media/whatever. Fair point, but either way, it is not udev doing it and /etc/fstab is not involved. -- Neil Bothwick In an atomic war, all men will be cremated equal. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] udev and fstab
hi Gentoo udev Guide didnt answer my question, is it good idea to remove fstab entry for removables, i have this /dev/hdc /media/cdrecorder autouser,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 since fresh install and then there was devfs. Am I right that udev will handle mounts for /dev/hdc/ (DVD+CDRW) according to udev.rules what media is inserted? And is there way to very force umount media even if it claims device is busy and i cant figure out what process is responsible for that. martins -- Linux 2.6.14-ck6 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 16:48:18 up 6:00, 5 users, load average: 1.06, 1.08, 1.08 pgpdHC3iTvxlN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and fstab
Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 16:15 schrieb ext Martins Steinbergs: Am I right that udev will handle mounts for /dev/hdc/ (DVD+CDRW) according to udev.rules what media is inserted? No, udev handles device node creation. You still have to mount yourself or use an automounter. And is there way to very force umount media even if it claims device is busy and i cant figure out what process is responsible for that. Did you try fuser? Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgprXyfX3frCJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and fstab
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:15:20 +0200, Martins Steinbergs wrote: Gentoo udev Guide didnt answer my question, is it good idea to remove fstab entry for removables, i have this /dev/hdc /media/cdrecorder auto user,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 since fresh install and then there was devfs. Am I right that udev will handle mounts for /dev/hdc/ (DVD+CDRW) according to udev.rules what media is inserted? udev handles the creation of the device nodes, mounting is handled by hal. hal normally creates its own mount points in /media, but if the device is listed in /etc/fstab, it will use whatever is in there. -- Neil Bothwick Why is the word abbreviation so long? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and fstab
And is there way to very force umount media even if it claims device is busy and i cant figure out what process is responsible for that. Did you try fuser? I made the experience that fuser or lsof often don't help much when you have problems unmounting a device. The output is empty, and you don't know why the heck you are not allowed to unmount a device. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and fstab
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 22:37, Christoph Eckert wrote: And is there way to very force umount media even if it claims device is busy and i cant figure out what process is responsible for that. Did you try fuser? I made the experience that fuser or lsof often don't help much when you have problems unmounting a device. The output is empty, and you don't know why the heck you are not allowed to unmount a device. Best regards ce fuser -k /media/cdrecorder was successful, thanks for pointing to fuser martins -- Linux 2.6.14-ck6 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 22:50:13 up 1:22, 5 users, load average: 0.50, 0.36, 0.44 pgp964BvfFEHK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and fstab
On 12/14/05, Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And is there way to very force umount media even if it claims device is busy and i cant figure out what process is responsible for that. Did you try fuser? I made the experience that fuser or lsof often don't help much when you have problems unmounting a device. The output is empty, and you don't know why the heck you are not allowed to unmount a device. Also try: ls -l /proc/[0-9]*/cwd. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and fstab
fuser -k /media/cdrecorder was successful, thanks for pointing to fuser will the -k option also help if a kernel lock happens on a device? Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and fstab
Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 17:18 schrieb ext Neil Bothwick: udev handles the creation of the device nodes, mounting is handled by hal. hal normally creates its own mount points in /media, but if the device is listed in /etc/fstab, it will use whatever is in there. How do you know that mounting is handled by hal on his machine? He didn't say so. He could also use the kernel automounter to create /media/whatever. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgp5kGjy5PG6D.pgp Description: PGP signature