Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-05 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:28:46 +
Fernando Meira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does that mean that it is unadvised to use a PCMCIA card for AP functions?
 I won't need a good range... something that works fine up to 8 meters 
 (between 2 rooms) is enough.
 I have to check if the driver I use allows Master mode.
 
 # ndiswrapper -l
 Installed ndis drivers:
 lsbcmnds driver present, hardware present
 
 Any idea?

ndiswrapper doesn't support master mode:
http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/FAQ#Is_master_mode_supported.3F

There would have to be a native linux driver, supporting soft-AP
facilities...

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-05 Thread Fernando Meira
hmm...
not nice...
There's no other way to work with my card unless with ndiswrapper... at least from what I read.
What about Ad-Hoc? Would it be possible to provide internet access to other pcs?

FernandoOn 8/5/05, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:28:46 +Fernando Meira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that mean that it is unadvised to use a PCMCIA card for AP functions?
 I won't need a good range... something that works fine up to 8 meters (between 2 rooms) is enough. I have to check if the driver I use allows Master mode. # ndiswrapper -l Installed ndis drivers:
 lsbcmnds driver present, hardware present Any idea?ndiswrapper doesn't support master mode:
http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/FAQ#Is_master_mode_supported.3FThere would have to be a native linux driver, supporting soft-APfacilities...-hwh--
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Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-04 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig

Fernando Meira wrote:


Hi,

I wanted to provide wireless connection to the internet for other 
laptops at home.
To do this, one laptop is connected via eth0 and wlan0 should work as 
AP to all others.
I have been following the 
HOWTO:http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Building_a_Wireless_Access_Point_With_Gentoo 
and trying to find solution in forums... but I can't get it working.

The wireless card is working with ndiswrapper.
When I try to set it to Master, I get this:
# iwconfig wlan0 mode Master
Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.

Does this means that the card is unable to perform the task I want, or 
what am I doing wrong?
Is there any other HOWTO with better instructions? Or anyone that can 
provide me a step-by-step configuration?


Thanks in advance.
Fernando.


The way I understand it, the ability to work in AP mode is determined by 
the drivers which must implement the SoftAP protocols (master mode). So, 
you need to know which chipset and which drivers you are using for your 
card (a lot of manufacturers, including Linksys, change their wireless 
chipsets often, without changing the product model). Then you can find 
out if the drivers support the master mode.


Eugene.

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Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-04 Thread Craig Zeigler

Eugene Rosenzweig wrote:


Fernando Meira wrote:


Hi,

I wanted to provide wireless connection to the internet for other 
laptops at home.
To do this, one laptop is connected via eth0 and wlan0 should work as 
AP to all others.
I have been following the 
HOWTO:http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Building_a_Wireless_Access_Point_With_Gentoo 
and trying to find solution in forums... but I can't get it working.

The wireless card is working with ndiswrapper.
When I try to set it to Master, I get this:
# iwconfig wlan0 mode Master
Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.

Does this means that the card is unable to perform the task I want, 
or what am I doing wrong?
Is there any other HOWTO with better instructions? Or anyone that can 
provide me a step-by-step configuration?


Thanks in advance.
Fernando.



The way I understand it, the ability to work in AP mode is determined 
by the drivers which must implement the SoftAP protocols (master 
mode). So, you need to know which chipset and which drivers you are 
using for your card (a lot of manufacturers, including Linksys, change 
their wireless chipsets often, without changing the product model). 
Then you can find out if the drivers support the master mode.


Eugene.

This is a pretty cool idea, but I wonder what the range on something 
like this is. Considering that the transmitting capability of a PCMCIA 
card isn't very high. Do you risk burning out the card or the slot by 
forcing more power to it? will the PCMCIA bus permit diverting more 
power to a card?

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Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-04 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:21:25 -0400
Craig Zeigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a pretty cool idea, but I wonder what the range on something 
 like this is. Considering that the transmitting capability of a PCMCIA 
 card isn't very high. Do you risk burning out the card or the slot by 
 forcing more power to it? will the PCMCIA bus permit diverting more 
 power to a card?

Huh? Forcing more power to the card?!? You mean, increase the
current? Or how else do you want to archieve that? Nah, this wouldn't
work. You'd have to set up power level by means of the pcmcia card,
that is by using iwconfig ... power ..., in most cases.

Well, and I know a few PCMCIA cards that do 100mWatts output. In fact,
a whole bunch of APs internally use standard WLAN cards that are just
flashed with a different Firmware.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-04 Thread Craig Zeigler

Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:


Hi,

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:21:25 -0400
Craig Zeigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

This is a pretty cool idea, but I wonder what the range on something 
like this is. Considering that the transmitting capability of a PCMCIA 
card isn't very high. Do you risk burning out the card or the slot by 
forcing more power to it? will the PCMCIA bus permit diverting more 
power to a card?
   



Huh? Forcing more power to the card?!? You mean, increase the
current? Or how else do you want to archieve that? Nah, this wouldn't
work. You'd have to set up power level by means of the pcmcia card,
that is by using iwconfig ... power ..., in most cases.

Well, and I know a few PCMCIA cards that do 100mWatts output. In fact,
a whole bunch of APs internally use standard WLAN cards that are just
flashed with a different Firmware.

-hwh
 

thats pretty cool to know. When I take a PCMCIA card out of my laptop 
its quite hot. I was just wondering if asking it to draw more power (in 
oncrease transmit power) would pose a cooling problem. The APs have the 
benefit of at least convection cooling. not to mention better antennas.

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Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-04 Thread Fernando Meira
Does that mean that it is unadvised to use a PCMCIA card for AP functions?
I won't need a good range... something that works fine up to 8 meters (between 2 rooms) is enough.
I have to check if the driver I use allows Master mode.

# ndiswrapper -l
Installed ndis drivers:
lsbcmnds driver present, hardware present
Any idea?

Fernando.
On 8/4/05, Craig Zeigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:Hi,On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:21:25 -0400Craig Zeigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:This is a pretty cool idea, but I wonder what the range on something
like this is. Considering that the transmitting capability of a PCMCIAcard isn't very high. Do you risk burning out the card or the slot byforcing more power to it? will the PCMCIA bus permit diverting more
power to a card?Huh? Forcing more power to the card?!? You mean, increase thecurrent? Or how else do you want to archieve that? Nah, this wouldn't
work. You'd have to set up power level by means of the pcmcia card,that is by using iwconfig ... power ..., in most cases.Well, and I know a few PCMCIA cards that do 100mWatts output. In fact,
a whole bunch of APs internally use standard WLAN cards that are justflashed with a different Firmware.-hwhthats pretty cool to know. When I take a PCMCIA card out of my laptop
its quite hot. I was just wondering if asking it to draw more power (inoncrease transmit power) would pose a cooling problem. The APs have thebenefit of at least convection cooling. not to mention better antennas.
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Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-04 Thread Craig Zeigler

Fernando Meira wrote:


Does that mean that it is unadvised to use a PCMCIA card for AP functions?
I won't need a good range... something that works fine up to 8 meters 
(between 2 rooms) is enough.

I have to check if the driver I use allows Master mode.

# ndiswrapper -l
Installed ndis drivers:
lsbcmnds driver present, hardware present

Any idea?

Fernando.

On 8/4/05, Craig Zeigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:

   


Hi,

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:21:25 -0400
Craig Zeigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 


This is a pretty cool idea, but I wonder what the range on something
like this is. Considering that the transmitting capability of a PCMCIA
card isn't very high. Do you risk burning out the card or the slot by
forcing more power to it? will the PCMCIA bus permit diverting more
power to a card?


   


Huh? Forcing more power to the card?!? You mean, increase the
current? Or how else do you want to archieve that? Nah, this wouldn't
work. You'd have to set up power level by means of the pcmcia card,
that is by using iwconfig ... power ..., in most cases.

Well, and I know a few PCMCIA cards that do 100mWatts output. In fact,
a whole bunch of APs internally use standard WLAN cards that are just
flashed with a different Firmware.

-hwh


 


thats pretty cool to know. When I take a PCMCIA card out of my laptop
its quite hot. I was just wondering if asking it to draw more power (in
oncrease transmit power) would pose a cooling problem. The APs have the
benefit of at least convection cooling. not to mention better antennas.
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I can't advise you on that at all, but when i read the original post, I 
was left with those questions. My inquiry was more out of curiosity.

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[gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
Hi,

I wanted to provide wireless connection to the internet for other laptops at home. 
To do this, one laptop is connected via eth0 and wlan0 should work as AP to all others.
I have been following the HOWTO:http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Building_a_Wireless_Access_Point_With_Gentoo and trying to find solution in forums... but I can't get it working.

The wireless card is working with ndiswrapper.
When I try to set it to Master, I get this:
# iwconfig wlan0 mode Master
Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
 SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.

Does this means that the card is unable to perform the task I want, or what am I doing wrong?
Is there any other HOWTO with better instructions? Or anyone that can provide me a step-by-step configuration?

Thanks in advance.
Fernando.


Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-03 Thread Mauro Faccenda
Fernando Meira wrote:

 Does this means that the card is unable to perform the task I want, or what 
 am I doing wrong?
 Is there any other HOWTO with better instructions? Or anyone that can 
 provide me a step-by-step configuration?

You should try to use a Ad-Hoc (point-to-point) wireless network.

[]'s
Mauro
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