Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
On 17:38 Fri 26 Sep, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps set for beginning, + booting to level 5). Suggestions? P.S. You see, there is a little sense to address this question to, say, suse or ubuntu or other candidate's community :-) - so, excuse please for OT. Andrew You could limit the bandwidth usage (see man wget and man make.conf, iirc), and run emerge --sync once a week, and emerge -u --fetchonly to fetch packages at night when the net isn't going to be in use as often (or during the day durning classes or work), then install at your own leisure. Also, you could just run glsa-check to update security problems. if you want another distro, and they are new to Linux, I would probably suggest Debian or one of its knock-offs (besides Ubuntu) to get them started, and see if they like it. Hope this helps some. -- I'm not anti-social, I'm just not user friendly
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
On Saturday 27 September 2008, jaeyoung lee wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Steven Lembark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.If you can do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check should cover you for the updates I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than binaries to download too :) If you can download the runtime image + portage beforehand onto a thumb drive or DVD's the Gentoo install isn't even all that net hungry. You might find that Damn Small Linux is, well, damn small and doesn't take that much bandwidth to download. -- Steven Lembark85-09 90th St. Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY, 11421 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 888 359 3508 you can use ArchLinux it's also good:) except when it replaces a package with a higher version one without any kind of information to distinguish them (vmlinuz? but which one?)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
В сообщении от Friday 26 September 2008 22:38:36 Andrew Gaydenko написал(а): No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps set for beginning, + booting to level 5). Suggestions? P.S. You see, there is a little sense to address this question to, say, suse or ubuntu or other candidate's community :-) - so, excuse please for OT. Andrew I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only. My desktop - KDE. :) The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup for sources. -- Best regargs, Anton Kochnev Contact: JID [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
=== On Saturday 27 September 2008, Anton Kochnev wrote: === ... I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only. My desktop - KDE. :) The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup for sources. That user isn't Gentoo-compatible :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === On Saturday 27 September 2008, Anton Kochnev wrote: === ... I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only. My desktop - KDE. :) The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup for sources. That user isn't Gentoo-compatible :-) I have dial-up here too and I just sync and download once a week or so. What's all that delta stuff anyway? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
=== On Saturday 27 September 2008, Dale wrote: === Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === On Saturday 27 September 2008, Anton Kochnev wrote: === ... I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only. My desktop - KDE. :) The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup for sources. That user isn't Gentoo-compatible :-) I have dial-up here too and I just sync and download once a week or so. What's all that delta stuff anyway? Dale :-) :-) Saying Gentoo-incompatible I mean that user will be migrated from m$win (I force this migration, but have not opportunity to admin a system often), and she isn't too young to learn new technical things (seventy years old). All these mean, I'm finding a distro with (besides 'net not hungry') simplest and minimal maintaining, though without any tuning capabilities also, which is (one of the main) a reason we use Gentoo. Andrew
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === On Saturday 27 September 2008, Dale wrote: === Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === On Saturday 27 September 2008, Anton Kochnev wrote: === ... I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only. My desktop - KDE. :) The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup for sources. That user isn't Gentoo-compatible :-) I have dial-up here too and I just sync and download once a week or so. What's all that delta stuff anyway? Dale :-) :-) Saying Gentoo-incompatible I mean that user will be migrated from m$win (I force this migration, but have not opportunity to admin a system often), and she isn't too young to learn new technical things (seventy years old). All these mean, I'm finding a distro with (besides 'net not hungry') simplest and minimal maintaining, though without any tuning capabilities also, which is (one of the main) a reason we use Gentoo. Andrew Well, coming off MS to Gentoo would have a steep learning curve. I used Mandrake for a little while then switched to Gentoo. To be honest, I installed everything off the CD with Mandrake. If you want to update then you would need the net but if all she is doing is email and such, I wouldn't think updates are needed unless there is a bug that affects what she is doing. For me, the install was easy, updates were not to bad and it was pretty stable. It's a thought. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
I think Suse would be suitable. AFAIK they have a updates-only policy (you might even be able to choose only to use security updates but I'm not sure - I used it only a short time) and use delta packages. -Erik -- hackerkey://v4sw5hw2ln3pr5ck0ma2u7LwXm4l7Gi2e2t4b7Ken4/7a16s0r1p-5.62/-6.56g5OR
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
080926 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: I want to install Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but the main problem is that PC during next few months will have dialup connection (33600) only. Mandriva is what I used before Gentoo (2000-3) it seems to remain the best all-purpose binary distro. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
Andrew Gaydenko wrote: No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps set for beginning, + booting to level 5). Suggestions? P.S. You see, there is a little sense to address this question to, say, suse or ubuntu or other candidate's community :-) - so, excuse please for OT. Andrew Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.If you can do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check should cover you for the updates I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than binaries to download too :) -- Please consider encrypting private mails - PGP Key ID 0x91F57667 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x91F57667op=index signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.If you can do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check should cover you for the updates I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than binaries to download too :) If you can download the runtime image + portage beforehand onto a thumb drive or DVD's the Gentoo install isn't even all that net hungry. You might find that Damn Small Linux is, well, damn small and doesn't take that much bandwidth to download. -- Steven Lembark85-09 90th St. Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY, 11421 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 888 359 3508
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
On Friday 26 September 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps set for beginning, + booting to level 5). Suggestions? opensuse or slackware
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Steven Lembark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.If you can do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check should cover you for the updates I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than binaries to download too :) If you can download the runtime image + portage beforehand onto a thumb drive or DVD's the Gentoo install isn't even all that net hungry. You might find that Damn Small Linux is, well, damn small and doesn't take that much bandwidth to download. -- Steven Lembark85-09 90th St. Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY, 11421 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 888 359 3508 you can use ArchLinux it's also good:) -- Only freebsd openbsd gentoo-linux windows2008
