Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, James wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann tu-clausthal.de> writes: > > no, that has nothing to do with the kernel. > > Maybe you need to turn on overdrive first. > > Try aticonfig --od-enable and then --odgc > > aticonfig --od-enable > ATI Overdrive(TM) enabled > > aticonfig --odgc > ERROR - Get clocks failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 Series > that was a type --odgt. aticonfig --help has lots of usefull info. > > I never used aticonfig before. It only runs from a user's > shell. Root cannot run it? > > aticonfig --odgc > bash: aticonfig: command not found well, aticonfig is in /opt. opt may not be in your root's path.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:59 AM, James wrote: > Paul Hartman gmail.com> writes: > > >> I've never tried the HDMI, so I can't say how it behaves, but yeah it >> came with a DVI to HDMI dongle thing. As far as I know the video >> signal in HDMI and DVI are identical, and that HDMI is basically like >> "DVI with sound". I could be wrong about that though. > > > Electrically DVI-D and HDMI are compatible, with converter (your dongle). > > HDMI does run software based protocols that dvi do not have the capability > to run/understand. That why you need and HDMI output on the video card > directly to get into auto negotiated protocols between HDMI devices. > > > This is all not to be confused with Intel's evil "HDCP" > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP > > This is one aspect of why I never purchase anything from Intel. > Evil, Evil Evil... > > >> One thing to beware of with this particular card is that it is HUGE, >> both in length and the big Arctic Cooling heat sink causes it to be >> very tall. I have an enormous thermaltake armour case and it was still >> a tight squeeze. If your case is less than 9 inches wide I don't know >> if it would fit. > > My case is 7" wide. Nice to know. I did find a passively cool 8500GT > but I'm not sure it will be sufficient for gaming: > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ > item-details.asp?EdpNo=4283330&CatId=1826 > > > How would I know if this will work very well with bzflag (that the > game my kids are hooked on...)? My previous card was an 8500GT in fact, and other than the fan dying and causing the card to melt, it was fine.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:50 AM, James wrote: > Paul Hartman gmail.com> writes: > > >> It's not ATI or water cooled, but I got a GeForce 9600 with a giant >> aftermarket heat sink preinstalled >> (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134050), >> totally passive fanless and silent, for under $100 at the time I >> bought it. I get steady 200fps at 1600x1200 in Sauerbraten, and FIFA >> 09 plays nice and smooth in wine. Temperature readings have been >> consistently low. I don't think water cooling is necessary if you're >> not doing anything special to torture the card (unless you just want >> to do it just for the fun of doing it, of course). I've gone the >> fanless, heat sink route on 2 systems now and have had no problems at >> all after having 2 video card fans die after less than 1 year each of >> use. > > > Hmmm, > > This sounds very interesting. I'm not ready to pony up the hundreds of > dollars for retail water cooling systems. So I think now I'm going > your route on passive video card cooling to get a reasonable priced > 'second-tier' gaming system under gentoo. Beside my target system > is only and AMD 4600, but, it has a fan over the CPU, with a schroud > that directly exhaused the hot cpu air, directly out the side of the > case. Very quite and I got it on a closeout from tiger direct. I do > not mind a little noise, just not the high pitch squealing of a fan > on a video card... > > Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature > of and of the new video cards? > > > This newegg pages shows this About the GeForce 9600: > > Ports > HDMI1 via Adapter > DVI 2 > TV-Out HDTV / S-Video Out > > Did your card come with the DVI-to-HDMI adapter? > So do you know anything about getting HDMI out of the the video card? > What does the "Adapter" look like? HDMI has software based negotiation > protocol, so theoretically, you do not have to do all of the gymnastics > with xorg.conf to get the highest and best resolution, when you plug > the video card into a large screen HDMI equipped LCD monitor/TV > that has HDMI inputs. Does the GeForce 9600 auto-negotiate over HDMI? Hi, I've never tried the HDMI, so I can't say how it behaves, but yeah it came with a DVI to HDMI dongle thing. As far as I know the video signal in HDMI and DVI are identical, and that HDMI is basically like "DVI with sound". I could be wrong about that though. One thing to beware of with this particular card is that it is HUGE, both in length and the big Arctic Cooling heat sink causes it to be very tall. I have an enormous thermaltake armour case and it was still a tight squeeze. If your case is less than 9 inches wide I don't know if it would fit.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Try aticonfig --od-enable and then --odgc odgt not odgc.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, James wrote: >> Volker Armin Hemmann tu-clausthal.de> writes: >> > > Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature >> > > of and of the new video cards? >> > >> > with ati: aticonfig --odgt >> >> I have this installed: >> x11-drivers/ati-drivers >> Installed versions: 8.552-r2 >> >> So I get: >> >> fglrxinfo >> display: :0.0 screen: 0 >> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. >> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1900 Series >> OpenGL version string: 2.1.8201 Release >> >> >> aticonfig --lsa >> * 0. 01:00.0 Radeon X1900 Series >> * - Default adapter >> >> aticonfig --odgt >> ERROR - Get temperature failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 >> Series >> >> >> >> So my guess is I missed something in the kernel config? > > no, that has nothing to do with the kernel. > Maybe you need to turn on overdrive first. > Try aticonfig --od-enable and then --odgc > > And for Nvidia I think you need: Option "Coolbits" "1" In your Xorg.conf (I think it enables the temperature monitoring and overclocking stuff in nvidia-settings)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, James wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann tu-clausthal.de> writes: > > > Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature > > > of and of the new video cards? > > > > with ati: aticonfig --odgt > > I have this installed: > x11-drivers/ati-drivers > Installed versions: 8.552-r2 > > So I get: > > fglrxinfo > display: :0.0 screen: 0 > OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. > OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1900 Series > OpenGL version string: 2.1.8201 Release > > > aticonfig --lsa > * 0. 01:00.0 Radeon X1900 Series > * - Default adapter > > aticonfig --odgt > ERROR - Get temperature failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 > Series > > > > So my guess is I missed something in the kernel config? no, that has nothing to do with the kernel. Maybe you need to turn on overdrive first. Try aticonfig --od-enable and then --odgc
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, James wrote: > Paul Hartman gmail.com> writes: > > It's not ATI or water cooled, but I got a GeForce 9600 with a giant > > aftermarket heat sink preinstalled > > (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134050), > > totally passive fanless and silent, for under $100 at the time I > > bought it. I get steady 200fps at 1600x1200 in Sauerbraten, and FIFA > > 09 plays nice and smooth in wine. Temperature readings have been > > consistently low. I don't think water cooling is necessary if you're > > not doing anything special to torture the card (unless you just want > > to do it just for the fun of doing it, of course). I've gone the > > fanless, heat sink route on 2 systems now and have had no problems at > > all after having 2 video card fans die after less than 1 year each of > > use. > > Hmmm, > > This sounds very interesting. I'm not ready to pony up the hundreds of > dollars for retail water cooling systems. So I think now I'm going > your route on passive video card cooling to get a reasonable priced > 'second-tier' gaming system under gentoo. Beside my target system > is only and AMD 4600, but, it has a fan over the CPU, with a schroud > that directly exhaused the hot cpu air, directly out the side of the > case. Very quite and I got it on a closeout from tiger direct. I do > not mind a little noise, just not the high pitch squealing of a fan > on a video card... > > Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature > of and of the new video cards? with nvidia: nvidia-settings with ati: aticonfig --odgt
