Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
On 22/05/2014 16:32, Zoltán Kócsi wrote: > On Thu, 22 May 2014 15:42:09 +0200 > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > >> if you run into issues like this, first try something like >> >> emerge -uDNav world >> >> (--update --deep --newuse --ask --verbose; note the "deep") >> (afaik this is the recommended way to update your system anyway) >> >> If this doesnt help, you can try giving portage more time to >> backtrack, add e.g. the following option (warning this may take a >> while): >> >> --backtrack=1000 > > Thanks, will do that. > > Is there a comprehensive manual about portage and the related tools? > I mean one which explains how the whole thing works, what are atoms and > sets and slots and masks; how dependencies work and how the magic USE > keywords get translated to actual configure parameters, so basically > the whole logic behind it? Then, with all that basic knowledge how > emerge et al work on that info and what they actually do? > > As a developer probably it's all obvious if not trivial to you, but to > the uninitiated it looks a bit of black magic. I went to the Wiki and > went through the handbook, but I couldn't find anything which explained > the actual concepts and implementation of the whole portage system, > just practical snippets of actual tool usage rather than the > foundations. Any pointers to the relevant literature would be most > appreciated. Portage man pages are fairly complete (maybe not so much for very new features). The trick is to find the man pages :-) equery files portage | grep /man/ These are the man pages I rate most useful (there are plenty more) emerge(1) portage(5) ebuild(1) ebuild(5) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
On Thu, 22 May 2014 15:42:09 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > if you run into issues like this, first try something like > > emerge -uDNav world > > (--update --deep --newuse --ask --verbose; note the "deep") > (afaik this is the recommended way to update your system anyway) > > If this doesnt help, you can try giving portage more time to > backtrack, add e.g. the following option (warning this may take a > while): > > --backtrack=1000 Thanks, will do that. Is there a comprehensive manual about portage and the related tools? I mean one which explains how the whole thing works, what are atoms and sets and slots and masks; how dependencies work and how the magic USE keywords get translated to actual configure parameters, so basically the whole logic behind it? Then, with all that basic knowledge how emerge et al work on that info and what they actually do? As a developer probably it's all obvious if not trivial to you, but to the uninitiated it looks a bit of black magic. I went to the Wiki and went through the handbook, but I couldn't find anything which explained the actual concepts and implementation of the whole portage system, just practical snippets of actual tool usage rather than the foundations. Any pointers to the relevant literature would be most appreciated. Thanks, Zoltan
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
Am Donnerstag 22 Mai 2014, 19:10:40 schrieb Zoltán Kócsi: > > Then, the command and the response: > --- > ~ # emerge --pretend --newuse @world > Hi Zoltan, if you run into issues like this, first try something like emerge -uDNav world (--update --deep --newuse --ask --verbose; note the "deep") (afaik this is the recommended way to update your system anyway) If this doesnt help, you can try giving portage more time to backtrack, add e.g. the following option (warning this may take a while): --backtrack=1000 Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer kde, council
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
On Thu, 22 May 2014 19:40:51 +1000, Zoltán Kócsi wrote: > > the output you posted is hard to read because your mailer wrapped it > > but it may be that updating sysvinit manually first will clear it. > > > > emerge -1a sysvinit > > It did it indeed, so the immediate problem is solved, thanks a lot for > that. > > However, I'd be obliged if you could tell me what was wrong and why an > update cleared it? I genuinely don't understand what goes on and I'd be > keen to learn about how Gentoo manages dependencies. To be honest, it was a bit of a guess, because I had so much trouble parsing the wrapped emerge output. The basic problem is that you have a package that portage wants to update, but another package wants to keep it at the same version. This is generally solved by either updating individual packages manually or unmerging the package causing the problem and then letting portage pull in the correct versions. In most cases, portage can now handle these things automatically but there are time it cannot. This may well have been caused by the various USE flag changes in your situation. If you make massive changes to your USE flags after installing from a stage 3, you can often see this sort of behaviour. The solution is generally to take small steps, change a few flags at a time. -- Neil Bothwick Always be sincere... whether you mean it or not! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
On Thu, 22 May 2014 10:30:39 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > doc flag is at fault here. You have changed other flags, such as > ipv6, so the advice is to make such sweeping USE flag changes one at > a time. This often avoids the problem and otherwise makes it easier > to see. Point taken, thanks. > the output you posted is hard to read because your mailer wrapped it > but it may be that updating sysvinit manually first will clear it. > > emerge -1a sysvinit It did it indeed, so the immediate problem is solved, thanks a lot for that. However, I'd be obliged if you could tell me what was wrong and why an update cleared it? I genuinely don't understand what goes on and I'd be keen to learn about how Gentoo manages dependencies. Thanks, Zoltan
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
On Thu, 22 May 2014 17:29:26 +0800 Amankwah wrote: > *DO NOT* add the USE flag "doc" into you /etc/make.conf, That may > cause many unexpected conflict. Somebody had told me this several > years before. > > If you need doc for any package, just add this flag int file > /etc/portage/package.use for the certain package. That's exactly what I've done. I do *not* have 'doc' in make.conf, I have it in package.use for a handful of packages. Zoltan
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
On Thu, 22 May 2014 19:10:40 +1000, Zoltán Kócsi wrote: > Empty machine, Gentoo installed from CD and stage3 tarball. It will be > a server, so the 'hardened' profile was selected from the offered > choices. A few packages (mailserver, bind, webserver, iptables etc) got > installed. I want their documentation, so I added "doc" to their > package specific USE flags in package.use. Atandard documentation: READMEs, manpages, info pages, is installed by default. The doc flag enables extra documentation for developers. This often needs to be built from the sources, and thus requires extra tools. These often cause blocks, however, it does not appear that the doc flag is at fault here. You have changed other flags, such as ipv6, so the advice is to make such sweeping USE flag changes one at a time. This often avoids the problem and otherwise makes it easier to see. the output you posted is hard to read because your mailer wrapped it but it may be that updating sysvinit manually first will clear it. emerge -1a sysvinit -- Neil Bothwick I used to live in the real world, but I got evicted. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 07:10:40PM +1000, Zoltán Kócsi wrote:
> On Thu, 22 May 2014 10:23:27 +0200
> "J. Roeleveld" wrote:
>
> > > I want to install some packages with docs but emerge tells me that
> > > it can't do that. Quite interestingly it complains about blocked
> > > packages.
> > > [...]
> >
> > Can you send the actual emerge-output you are seeing along with the
> > full emerge-command you are issuing?
>
> No problem. Background:
>
> Empty machine, Gentoo installed from CD and stage3 tarball. It will be
> a server, so the 'hardened' profile was selected from the offered
> choices. A few packages (mailserver, bind, webserver, iptables etc) got
> installed. I want their documentation, so I added "doc" to their
> package specific USE flags in package.use.
>
> The USE in make.conf is
>
> USE="berkdb crypt ssl -ipv6"
>
> and in package.use contains postfix, iptables, iproute2 and a few
> other similar packages, with the 'doc' flag and whatever else they
> needed for their actual function (e.g. postfix gets 'sasl' and 'mbox').
>
> Then, the command and the response:
> ---
> ~ # emerge --pretend --newuse @world
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild N ] sys-apps/paxctl-0.7-r2
> [ebuild R] net-misc/iputils-20121221 USE="-ipv6*"
> [ebuild R] sys-process/psmisc-22.20 USE="-ipv6*"
> [ebuild R] sys-devel/gcc-4.7.3-r1 USE="hardened* -fortran*"
> [ebuild R] app-arch/gzip-1.5 USE="pic*"
> [ebuild R] sys-apps/busybox-1.21.0 USE="-ipv6*"
> [ebuild N ] dev-python/pypax-0.8.4 USE="ptpax xtpax"
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_3 (-pypy) (-python2_6)
> -python3_2" [ebuild N ] sys-apps/elfix-0.8.4 USE="ptpax
> xtpax" [ebuild R] dev-tcltk/expect-5.44.1.15 USE="doc*" [ebuild
> NS] sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r2 [0.97-r12] USE="multislot nls
> -custom-cflags -debug -device-mapper -doc -efiemu (-libzfs) -mount -sdl
> -static {-test} -truetype" GRUB_PLATFORMS="-coreboot -efi-32 -efi-64
> -emu -ieee1275 -multiboot -pc -qemu -qemu-mips -yeeloong" [ebuild
> U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2 [2.22.2] USE="pam%*
> -bash-completion% -caps% -cytune% -fdformat% -python% -tty-helpers%"
> PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python3_2% -python3_3% (-python3_4)"
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* python3_3%* -python3_2%
> (-python3_4)" [ebuild R] net-misc/rsync-3.0.9-r3
> USE="-ipv6*" [ebuild R] net-misc/wget-1.14
> USE="-ipv6*" [ebuild R] net-libs/gnutls-2.12.23-r4
> USE="-bindist*" [ebuild R] app-admin/syslog-ng-3.4.7
> USE="-ipv6*" [ebuild R] net-misc/dhcpcd-6.2.0-r1
> USE="-ipv6*" [blocks B ] (" sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2) [blocks B ]
> >=sys-apps/util-linux-2.23 (">=sys-apps/util-linux-2.23" is blocking
> >sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r4)
>
> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> * installed at the same time on the same system.
>
> (sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r4::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
> >=sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r6 required by
> (sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4::gentoo, installed)
>
> (sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
> pulled in by >=sys-apps/util-linux-2.20 required by
> (sys-fs/udev-208::gentoo, installed) >=sys-apps/util-linux-2.16
> required by (sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.42.7::gentoo, installed)
> >=sys-apps/util-linux-2.16 required by (x11-libs/libSM-1.2.2::gentoo,
> installed) sys-apps/util-linux required by @system
>
>
> For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the
> following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is
> irrelevant):
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
>
>
> * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
> * Use eselect news to read news items.
>
> ---
>
> It is entirely possible that I'm, being a complete newbie on Gentoo
> made something stupid thing, so I'm not blaming the system, just looking
> for an explanation and possibly a solution.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Zoltan
>
*DO NOT* add the USE flag "doc" into you /etc/make.conf, That may cause
many unexpected conflict. Somebody had told me this several years
before.
If you need doc for any package, just add this flag int file
/etc/portage/package.use for the certain package.
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
On Thu, 22 May 2014 10:23:27 +0200
"J. Roeleveld" wrote:
> > I want to install some packages with docs but emerge tells me that
> > it can't do that. Quite interestingly it complains about blocked
> > packages.
> > [...]
>
> Can you send the actual emerge-output you are seeing along with the
> full emerge-command you are issuing?
No problem. Background:
Empty machine, Gentoo installed from CD and stage3 tarball. It will be
a server, so the 'hardened' profile was selected from the offered
choices. A few packages (mailserver, bind, webserver, iptables etc) got
installed. I want their documentation, so I added "doc" to their
package specific USE flags in package.use.
The USE in make.conf is
USE="berkdb crypt ssl -ipv6"
and in package.use contains postfix, iptables, iproute2 and a few
other similar packages, with the 'doc' flag and whatever else they
needed for their actual function (e.g. postfix gets 'sasl' and 'mbox').
Then, the command and the response:
---
~ # emerge --pretend --newuse @world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] sys-apps/paxctl-0.7-r2
[ebuild R] net-misc/iputils-20121221 USE="-ipv6*"
[ebuild R] sys-process/psmisc-22.20 USE="-ipv6*"
[ebuild R] sys-devel/gcc-4.7.3-r1 USE="hardened* -fortran*"
[ebuild R] app-arch/gzip-1.5 USE="pic*"
[ebuild R] sys-apps/busybox-1.21.0 USE="-ipv6*"
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pypax-0.8.4 USE="ptpax xtpax"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_3 (-pypy) (-python2_6)
-python3_2" [ebuild N ] sys-apps/elfix-0.8.4 USE="ptpax
xtpax" [ebuild R] dev-tcltk/expect-5.44.1.15 USE="doc*" [ebuild
NS] sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r2 [0.97-r12] USE="multislot nls
-custom-cflags -debug -device-mapper -doc -efiemu (-libzfs) -mount -sdl
-static {-test} -truetype" GRUB_PLATFORMS="-coreboot -efi-32 -efi-64
-emu -ieee1275 -multiboot -pc -qemu -qemu-mips -yeeloong" [ebuild
U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2 [2.22.2] USE="pam%*
-bash-completion% -caps% -cytune% -fdformat% -python% -tty-helpers%"
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python3_2% -python3_3% (-python3_4)"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* python3_3%* -python3_2%
(-python3_4)" [ebuild R] net-misc/rsync-3.0.9-r3
USE="-ipv6*" [ebuild R] net-misc/wget-1.14
USE="-ipv6*" [ebuild R] net-libs/gnutls-2.12.23-r4
USE="-bindist*" [ebuild R] app-admin/syslog-ng-3.4.7
USE="-ipv6*" [ebuild R] net-misc/dhcpcd-6.2.0-r1
USE="-ipv6*" [blocks B ] =sys-apps/util-linux-2.23 (">=sys-apps/util-linux-2.23" is blocking
>sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r4)
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
(sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r4::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
>=sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r6 required by
(sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4::gentoo, installed)
(sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
pulled in by >=sys-apps/util-linux-2.20 required by
(sys-fs/udev-208::gentoo, installed) >=sys-apps/util-linux-2.16
required by (sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.42.7::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/util-linux-2.16 required by (x11-libs/libSM-1.2.2::gentoo,
installed) sys-apps/util-linux required by @system
For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the
following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is
irrelevant):
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
* IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
* Use eselect news to read news items.
---
It is entirely possible that I'm, being a complete newbie on Gentoo
made something stupid thing, so I'm not blaming the system, just looking
for an explanation and possibly a solution.
Thanks,
Zoltan
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocked packages
On Thursday, May 22, 2014 05:08:17 PM Zoltán Kócsi wrote: > Hi, > > I'm fairly new to Gentoo and I have a blocking issue which I don't > really understand. > > I want to install some packages with docs but emerge tells me that it > can't do that. Quite interestingly it complains about blocked packages. > > One of them is openrc and the other is linux-util. I don't want to > delete either one, and wisely so, because even emerge tells me that > they are part of my system profile and should not be deleted. > > Now the actual questions I have are the following: > > - Why does emerge complain about blocking packages when I want to > recompile a few *other* packages, already on the system and all I > want is their documentation created? > > - If those two packages do indeed block each other, why are they in my > system profile, which was set up by Gentoo itself when I installed > the system? > > - If they block each other, how did both get installed on the machine? > > - Why do they block each other? As far as I could see, they are not > clashing, one is a SysV type init scripts and the 'rc' binary and the > other is all sorts of utilities and system management stuff. > > Thanks, > > Zoltan Can you send the actual emerge-output you are seeing along with the full emerge-command you are issuing? Many thanks, Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?
Matthias Hanft wrote:
> Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote:
> >
> > I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this
> > conflict: [...]
>
> I had the same problem. Since openrc was not in my world file (pulled in
> automatically), it was not scheduled for update. The solution was to use
> "emerge -Duv world" including "deep" dependencies. This caused updating
> net-tools and openrc at the *same* time without any errors.
Indeed, I was doing emerge --update expecting the behavior of
emerge -Du. The later works much better.
Thank you (and all others who replied).
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.
Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?
Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this conflict: [...] I had the same problem. Since openrc was not in my world file (pulled in automatically), it was not scheduled for update. The solution was to use "emerge -Duv world" including "deep" dependencies. This caused updating net-tools and openrc at the *same* time without any errors. -Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?
Am Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:55:50 +0100 schrieb "Pascal J. Bourguignon" : > > I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this > conflict: > > [...] first update openrc, then world emerge --update openrc emerge --update world
Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:55:50PM +0100, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: > > I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this > conflict: > > where both sys-apps/net-tools and sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 therefore > sys-apps/openrc are required by the system. > > What can I do to resolve this conflict? > > Why does gentoo want to install conflicting packages at the same time on > my system? > [ebuild N ] net-misc/vde-2.2.2 > [nomerge ] app-emulation/wine-1.4.1 > [ebuild N ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20121028 > USE="-development" > [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20120818 [20120116] > [ebuild U ] dev-libs/expat-2.1.0-r2 [2.1.0] > [ebuild U ] media-libs/libpng-1.5.13-r1 [1.5.10] > [blocks B ] blocking sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20120127084908) > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > * installed at the same time on the same system. > > (sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20120127084908::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) pulled in by > sys-apps/net-tools required by @system > > (sys-apps/openrc-0.9.8.4::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > sys-apps/openrc required by > (dev-db/mysql-init-scripts-2.0_pre1-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > sys-apps/openrc required by (sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1::gentoo, > installed) > net-tools needs an openrc version newer than 0.9.9.3. According to eix on my system 11.5 should be stable (correct me, if I'm wrong). Try to update openrc first (e.g. emerge -v1 openrc) and check, which version is being pulled in. If it's still 0.9.8.4 check, if you have masked newer versions yourself and -if so - remove the mask. WKR Hinnerk
Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?
On 11/26/2012 02:55 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: [blocks B ] net-tools requires openrc >= 0.9.9.3. Your installed openrc, and proposed update, is too old. Upgrade to openrc-0.11.5... It came online on Saturday.
