Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
I tried the following in /etc/conf.d/net : modules_ath0=( !plug ) but it still goes into backgrounding. That shouldn't happen. Please post the output of: grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#.*)?$' /etc/conf.d/net modules=wpa_supplicant wpa_supplicant_ath0=-Dmadwifi config_ath0=( 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ) routes_ath0=( default via 192.168.0.1 ) essid_ath0=network2 modules_ath0=( !plug ) Around line 159 in my net.example says: # By default don't wait for wpa_suppliant to associate and authenticate. # If you would like to, so can specify how long in seconds #associate_timeout_eth0=60 # A value of 0 means wait forever. It may be possible that you need to set this variable to 0 to prevent backgrounding, independent of the ifplugd/netplug quashing. I set that variable and it does seem to stop the backgrounding, but I'm not given any more information than I was with backgrounding unless it connects. I could be wrong, but I thought I was getting more information before. Incidentally, I am able to connect to the AP this morning. The next time I can't connect I'll try different channels as I do live in an apartment. For some reason, I don't seem to have DNS service although I am connected to the network and Internet. DNS comes from my Gentoo router (dnsmasq), and my other system connected to it is getting lookups just fine. I have added: nameserver 192.168.0.1 to /etc/resolv.conf and restarted net.ath0 to no avail. I suppose baselayout -1.13* could be causing this problem somehow. Downgrading back to a stable baselayout caused all kinds of errors to pop up in different places. I believe they were net.lo errors, so maybe they have to do with the net.lo symlink you noticed? /etc/init.d/net.lo - ../../lib64/rcscripts/sh/net.sh I'd like to get back on a stable baselayout if possible. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
I tried the following in /etc/conf.d/net : modules_ath0=( !plug ) but it still goes into backgrounding. That shouldn't happen. Please post the output of: grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#.*)?$' /etc/conf.d/net modules=wpa_supplicant wpa_supplicant_ath0=-Dmadwifi config_ath0=( 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ) routes_ath0=( default via 192.168.0.1 ) essid_ath0=network2 modules_ath0=( !plug ) Around line 159 in my net.example says: # By default don't wait for wpa_suppliant to associate and authenticate. # If you would like to, so can specify how long in seconds #associate_timeout_eth0=60 # A value of 0 means wait forever. It may be possible that you need to set this variable to 0 to prevent backgrounding, independent of the ifplugd/netplug quashing. I found this that mentions disabling backgrounding: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_wg511t but the quoted portion of net.lo doesn't seem to exist in the latest stable version. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
On Sunday 22 October 2006 16:09, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding': Sorry, I'm just not that wireless savvy, but everything looks fine to me. Again, keep in mind that I've never used wpa_supplicant so I don't know if that changes things. I'm using wpa_supplicant so I can connect via WPA encryption. Do you know if I should be able to do that with wireless-tools instead? From the documentation in wireless.example (which is only used with iwconfig / wireless-tools) you can do WPA on certain drivers, like the rt2500. I believe you will need to use wpa_supplicant with your atheros chipset. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgp21vGM5SYXE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
On Sunday 22 October 2006 14:12, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding': I tried the following in /etc/conf.d/net : modules_ath0=( !plug ) but it still goes into backgrounding. That shouldn't happen. Please post the output of: grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#.*)?$' /etc/conf.d/net modules=wpa_supplicant wpa_supplicant_ath0=-Dmadwifi config_ath0=( 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ) routes_ath0=( default via 192.168.0.1 ) essid_ath0=network2 modules_ath0=( !plug ) Around line 159 in my net.example says: # By default don't wait for wpa_suppliant to associate and authenticate. # If you would like to, so can specify how long in seconds #associate_timeout_eth0=60 # A value of 0 means wait forever. It may be possible that you need to set this variable to 0 to prevent backgrounding, independent of the ifplugd/netplug quashing. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpu1iX4fbnFw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
How can I keep net.ath0 from backgrounding at boot? This is ifplugd or netplug waiting until link is established before configuring the device. They are also responsible for bring the device up and down is response to link failure and reestablishment. Normally, this is a desired behavior because it, for example, only brings up your laptop's wired connection if it is actually plugged in and automatically brings it down when you unplug. If you want to disable one or the other for a particular device, you can add !netplug or !ifplugd to the modules list of that interface (see /etc/conf.d/net.example for details). You can also disable link detection entirely by adding !plug to the modules list of that interface. An alternative that may be closer to what you want, is to let ifplugd/netplug wait for some period of time before backgrounding. This still allows the interface to be started and stopped in response to link status, but when explicitly started, it will perform configuration in the foreground if link is detecting before timeout. To establish such a timeout add:plug_timeout=seconds to your network configuration I tried the following in /etc/conf.d/net : modules_ath0=( !plug ) but it still goes into backgrounding. When ath0 won't connect to the wireless network I need to be able to see more about what is happening when it's trying to connect. Is that still possible? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
On Sunday 22 October 2006 12:01, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding': I tried the following in /etc/conf.d/net : modules_ath0=( !plug ) but it still goes into backgrounding. That shouldn't happen. Please post the output of: equery b /etc/init.d/net.lo equery l baselayout equery k baselayout ls -ld /etc/init.d/net.* grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#.*)?$' /etc/conf.d/net grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#.*)?$' /etc/conf.d/net if /etc/init.d/net.ath0 status | grep -q started; then /etc/init.d/net.ath0 restart else /etc/init.d/net.ath0 start fi When ath0 won't connect to the wireless network I need to be able to see more about what is happening when it's trying to connect. Is that still possible? Should be, unless it is something peculiar about wireless (don't use wireless much) or atheros cards specifically. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpRrJShRjp3g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
Sorry, I'm just not that wireless savvy, but everything looks fine to me. Again, keep in mind that I've never used wpa_supplicant so I don't know if that changes things. I'm using wpa_supplicant so I can connect via WPA encryption. Do you know if I should be able to do that with wireless-tools instead? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
equery b /etc/init.d/net.lo sys-apps/baselayout-1.13.0_alpha2-r1 (/etc/init.d/net.lo - ../../lib64/rcscripts/sh/net.sh) Hrm, that's new. My net.lo is not a symlink. equery l baselayout sys-apps/baselayout-1.13.0_alpha2-r1 But I'm still on baselayout-1.12 equery k baselayout 113 out of 150 files good, with a list of has wrong mtime You can confirm those are all configuration files? If not, please provide the list... They are all in /etc/ (including many init.d) except for: /sbin/runscript.sh /sbin/functions.sh /lib64/rcscripts/sh/net.sh /sbin/depscan.sh Some of them show incorrect md5sum instead of wrong mtime. grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#.*)?$' /etc/conf.d/net modules=wpa_supplicant wpa_supplicant_ath0=-Dmadwifi config_ath0=( 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ) routes_ath0=( default via 192.168.0.1 ) essid_ath0=network2 modules_ath0=( !plug ) It's possible, albeit unlikely, that the two modules lines are conflicting, try removing both of them and adding: modules_ath0=( wpa_supplicant !plug) above your config_ath0 line. I changed that with no luck. This may also be some behavior that is wpa_supplicant specific and I've never used that particular piece of software. grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#.*)?$' /etc/conf.d/net Sorry, that should have been: grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#.*)?$' /etc/conf.d/wireless I actually don't have that file at all. if /etc/init.d/net.ath0 status | grep -q started; then /etc/init.d/net.ath0 restart else /etc/init.d/net.ath0 start fi How can I execute this from the command line? You should just be able to type it in or cut/copy and paste from my original email. bash (and indeed most shells) don't interpret the input from the command line significantly different than the content of a script file. If I use spaces instead of line breaks so I can put it all on one line it doesn't seem to work out. I'm missing something here. - Grant Please also let me know if you see anything that looks like it might be preventing net.ath0 from connecting. It's been slowly getting less and less reliable, and now it won't connect no matter how many times I ask. net.ath0 on my laptop connects perfectly every time. :( Sorry, I'm just not that wireless savvy, but everything looks fine to me. Again, keep in mind that I've never used wpa_supplicant so I don't know if that changes things. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
On Sunday 22 October 2006 16:07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding': How can I execute this from the command line? You should just be able to type it in or cut/copy and paste from my original email. bash (and indeed most shells) don't interpret the input from the command line significantly different than the content of a script file. If I use spaces instead of line breaks so I can put it all on one line it doesn't seem to work out. I'm missing something here. You should be able to use linebreaks; bash will, appropriately, wait for more input if you are in the middle of a larger construct (if/while/etc.). You should also be able to use spaces, but you have to add a semi-colon after each simple command. If I was to do it as a one-liner it would be: if /etc/init.d/net.ath0 status | grep -q started; then /etc/init.d/net.ath0 restart; else /etc/init.d/net.ath0 start; fi -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpElpy7OFPZr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
quoth the Grant: How can I keep net.ath0 from backgrounding at boot? I like to see the ouput and the backgrounding causes ntp-client, ntpd, and netmount to display a warning. - Grant I could of course be wrong, but I think you will need to 'unbackground' everything. Ie: RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP=no in /etc/conf.d/rc -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 11:38, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Disabling net.ath0 backgrounding': How can I keep net.ath0 from backgrounding at boot? This is ifplugd or netplug waiting until link is established before configuring the device. They are also responsible for bring the device up and down is response to link failure and reestablishment. Normally, this is a desired behavior because it, for example, only brings up your laptop's wired connection if it is actually plugged in and automatically brings it down when you unplug. If you want to disable one or the other for a particular device, you can add !netplug or !ifplugd to the modules list of that interface (see /etc/conf.d/net.example for details). You can also disable link detection entirely by adding !plug to the modules list of that interface. An alternative that may be closer to what you want, is to let ifplugd/netplug wait for some period of time before backgrounding. This still allows the interface to be started and stopped in response to link status, but when explicitly started, it will perform configuration in the foreground if link is detecting before timeout. To establish such a timeout add:plug_timeout=seconds to your network configuration -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpSthso45F9S.pgp Description: PGP signature
