Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 02.12.2008 04:31: I have solved my little problem with a tool called fatsort. Just another update. Today fatsoft entered the portage tree [1]. [1] http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/fatsort/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 02.12.2008 04:31: I have solved my little problem with a tool called fatsort. Just another update. Today fatsoft entered the portage tree [1]. [1] http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/fatsort/ It seems useful, thanks! :)
Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
2008/12/2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I dont want to install MTP firmware on my T60. Me neither ;-) I have solved my little problem with a tool called fatsort. Meimo, thanks for letting us know. This is a solution I was not aware of and it sounds great. Unfortunately there is no ebuild for fatsort [1] only a maintainer wanted bug [2]. There is even a python gui [3], but I don't know if there is really a need for a gui though. I think I will update the ebuild (which does not look that complicated and needs some improvements anyway) in the bug to version 0.9.9 and probably write one for the gui (although the source is not versioned). Then I will try to get this into the tree soonish. [1] http://fatsort.berlios.de/ [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170425 [3] http://blog.laxu.de/2008/02/03/fatsort-gui/ -- Regards, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 02.12.2008 04:31: I have solved my little problem with a tool called fatsort. Just FYI, I have updated the ebuild in the bug tracker [1]. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170425 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
Daniel Pielmeier ha scritto: And you are right the order is controlled by the order they are saved to the filesystem. It seems this is only true for the usb driver and not the mtp driver which is afaik only usable on windows. I know almost nothing about the iRiver, but the MTP protocol is supported under Linux. I manage my Creative Zen with Amarok using MTP, and there is even a (flaky) mtpfs FUSE layer. Is that an iRiver problem? m.
Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
Hi, I dont want to install MTP firmware on my T60. I have solved my little problem with a tool called fatsort. Thanks for the support. Kind regards, Meino Cramer b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-12-02 04:03]: Daniel Pielmeier ha scritto: And you are right the order is controlled by the order they are saved to the filesystem. It seems this is only true for the usb driver and not the mtp driver which is afaik only usable on windows. I know almost nothing about the iRiver, but the MTP protocol is supported under Linux. I manage my Creative Zen with Amarok using MTP, and there is even a (flaky) mtpfs FUSE layer. Is that an iRiver problem? m. -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
On Sunday 30 November 2008 12:06:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to analyze an VFAT image to gather information of its structure. Does anyone know of an VFAT analyzer/editor? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Have a nice weekend! mcc Do you want to know how FAT works? Wikipedia is as good a place to start looking as any. Do you want to know more about the files and directories on our disk? If so, please be more specific about what you want to find out. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
Hi Alan, the problem is... :) I own a iRiver T60 mp3 player, which uses the VFAT fs as so many usbstick-like mass storage devices do. It /seems/ (which is equivalent to i dont know, whether...), that the sequence in which the songs are played depend on the sequence they were entered into the VFAT. Whith rsync I could manage to copy the files, which carry the trackno as the the first two characters in their filename. in alphabetically order onto the device. So nice ... so good. BUT: In some rare cases the T60 insists in playing songs in a different order. Why ? No clue... Another aspect of this is: If I will delete a couple of files on the device and rsync some new, the previously freed directory/VFAT entries will be occupied first, before new ones will be used, which will screw up the playing order totally. Now I am looking for a VFAT editor and analyzer, which permits me to explore and eventually -- if needed -- hack the VFAT into a different order, so that my files will be played in the correct track order without reformatting the device in whole for any delete/add file action I want to do. If there is anything outside there, which will help me to manage this task ... it would be very nice! Thank you very much for your help and time in advance! Kind regards mcc Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-11-30 13:20]: On Sunday 30 November 2008 12:06:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to analyze an VFAT image to gather information of its structure. Does anyone know of an VFAT analyzer/editor? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Have a nice weekend! mcc Do you want to know how FAT works? Wikipedia is as good a place to start looking as any. Do you want to know more about the files and directories on our disk? If so, please be more specific about what you want to find out. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 30.11.2008 13:31: Hi Alan, the problem is... :) I own a iRiver T60 mp3 player, which uses the VFAT fs as so many usbstick-like mass storage devices do. It /seems/ (which is equivalent to i dont know, whether...), that the sequence in which the songs are played depend on the sequence they were entered into the VFAT. Whith rsync I could manage to copy the files, which carry the trackno as the the first two characters in their filename. in alphabetically order onto the device. So nice ... so good. BUT: In some rare cases the T60 insists in playing songs in a different order. Why ? No clue... Another aspect of this is: If I will delete a couple of files on the device and rsync some new, the previously freed directory/VFAT entries will be occupied first, before new ones will be used, which will screw up the playing order totally. Now I am looking for a VFAT editor and analyzer, which permits me to explore and eventually -- if needed -- hack the VFAT into a different order, so that my files will be played in the correct track order without reformatting the device in whole for any delete/add file action I want to do. If there is anything outside there, which will help me to manage this task ... it would be very nice! Thank you very much for your help and time in advance! Kind regards mcc The firmware iriver provides to use their player as an usb mass storage device is simply crap. I also use one of the first players that firmware was available for. Now I see you own a newer player and still nothing has changed. And you are right the order is controlled by the order they are saved to the filesystem. It seems this is only true for the usb driver and not the mtp driver which is afaik only usable on windows. So the solution would be to make the driver smart enough to give control over the play order either by filename or better an option to look up the tags and sort according to different tags. But I guess this wont happen anytime soon. The problem was also reported here [1], but I guess you know this link as the rsync solution was also posted there. Regards, Daniel [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-January/135493.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] FAT/VFAT fs analyser ???
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-11-30 14:21]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 30.11.2008 13:31: Hi Alan, the problem is... :) I own a iRiver T60 mp3 player, which uses the VFAT fs as so many usbstick-like mass storage devices do. It /seems/ (which is equivalent to i dont know, whether...), that the sequence in which the songs are played depend on the sequence they were entered into the VFAT. Whith rsync I could manage to copy the files, which carry the trackno as the the first two characters in their filename. in alphabetically order onto the device. So nice ... so good. BUT: In some rare cases the T60 insists in playing songs in a different order. Why ? No clue... Another aspect of this is: If I will delete a couple of files on the device and rsync some new, the previously freed directory/VFAT entries will be occupied first, before new ones will be used, which will screw up the playing order totally. Now I am looking for a VFAT editor and analyzer, which permits me to explore and eventually -- if needed -- hack the VFAT into a different order, so that my files will be played in the correct track order without reformatting the device in whole for any delete/add file action I want to do. If there is anything outside there, which will help me to manage this task ... it would be very nice! Thank you very much for your help and time in advance! Kind regards mcc The firmware iriver provides to use their player as an usb mass storage device is simply crap. I also use one of the first players that firmware was available for. Now I see you own a newer player and still nothing has changed. And you are right the order is controlled by the order they are saved to the filesystem. It seems this is only true for the usb driver and not the mtp driver which is afaik only usable on windows. So the solution would be to make the driver smart enough to give control over the play order either by filename or better an option to look up the tags and sort according to different tags. But I guess this wont happen anytime soon. The problem was also reported here [1], but I guess you know this link as the rsync solution was also posted there. Regards, Daniel [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-January/135493.html Hi Daniel, Yes, I know of the rsync-trickbut it does not help me to circumvent the probem I described. Do you know of any useable VFAT editor/analyzer ? Keep hacking! ;) mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
