Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
On Friday 13 January 2006 02:04, Zac Medico wrote: You can boot off of the cd and build a kernel immediately or you can copy the cd's kernel. When booted from the cd, the kernel is found at /mnt/cdrom/isolinux/gentoo-em64t and corresponding modules are in /lib/modules. The install cd and stages are available from the /releases/amd64/2005.1-r1/ directory on the mirrors. Got the kernel and modules. Systems boots fine, just that I don't have X. This probably is expected as there might not be the necessary modules installed? Will be starting a 64bit install anytime now. Thanks for the tip of getting the kernel and modules from the CD. BTW is there any way I can get X? -- Regards, Abhay pgp2cWpZUkExY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
On Jan 13, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Abhay Kedia wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 02:04, Zac Medico wrote: You can boot off of the cd and build a kernel immediately or you can copy the cd's kernel. When booted from the cd, the kernel is found at /mnt/cdrom/isolinux/gentoo-em64t and corresponding modules are in /lib/modules. The install cd and stages are available from the /releases/amd64/2005.1-r1/ directory on the mirrors. Got the kernel and modules. Systems boots fine, just that I don't have X. This probably is expected as there might not be the necessary modules installed? Will be starting a 64bit install anytime now. Thanks for the tip of getting the kernel and modules from the CD. BTW is there any way I can get X? emerge Xorg? or emerge kde-meta -- Regards, Abhay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Abhay Kedia wrote: | Got the kernel and modules. Systems boots fine, just that I don't have X. This | probably is expected as there might not be the necessary modules installed? | | Will be starting a 64bit install anytime now. Thanks for the tip of getting | the kernel and modules from the CD. BTW is there any way I can get X? Apparently the new kernel does not include the necessary drivers or modules. You may get a clue from /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Depending on your hardware, you may be able to get it working temporarily with either the vesa or fbdev drivers. In any case, you can use a stage3 chroot to build yourself a new kernel and the appropriate drivers. Zac -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDx/E+/ejvha5XGaMRAidVAJ9RydzHcQrpPi4L5sGZodxhlxv6dQCfdaF6 zLp7pjcYAadzL+2n3Nrq8/c= =sXzP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
On Friday 13 January 2006 22:59, John Jolet wrote: emerge Xorg? or emerge kde-meta Xorg and KDE both are emerged and I am using this kernel on already existing system. If you are saying that I should reemerge them, then wouldn't I bork my already working 32bit system? -- Regards, Abhay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:00:25 +0530, Abhay Kedia wrote: Xorg and KDE both are emerged and I am using this kernel on already existing system. If you are saying that I should reemerge them, then wouldn't I bork my already working 32bit system? Why don't you just do a separate 64 bit install using stage 3 and GRP packages? You'll have it working in far less time than you have spent on this hybrid 32/64 bit setup. -- Neil Bothwick I don't eat snails. I prefer fast food. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
On Saturday 14 January 2006 00:58, Neil Bothwick wrote: Why don't you just do a separate 64 bit install using stage 3 and GRP packages? You'll have it working in far less time than you have spent on this hybrid 32/64 bit setup. You are probably right that I should do an install with GRP packages but the problem is that this is a family PC. I have 5 other people using this system. I annoyed all of them when I hard pressed and removed Windows. Now if I do a GRP install, then first I'll have to customise it according to everyone's needs and then once again when I complete the amd64 system. Not only does this put more load on me, but also gives the other members a chance to mock me and say, Windows would have been far better. If this current idea (by Zac) of compiling a kernel and drivers under stage 3 doesn't work, then I'll surely do a GRP install. BTW thanks for sticking with this thread for so long and not getting annoyed :-) -- Regards, Abhay pgpvAbDsJoF5w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
On Friday 13 January 2006 23:58, Zac Medico wrote: Apparently the new kernel does not include the necessary drivers or modules. You may get a clue from /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Depending on your hardware, you may be able to get it working temporarily with either the vesa or fbdev drivers. In any case, you can use a stage3 chroot to build yourself a new kernel and the appropriate drivers. Thanks. That is a nice idea. Will do it next and see how it goes. -- Regards, Abhay pgpQK782NUAsP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
On Thursday 12 January 2006 13:04, Zac Medico wrote: Well, you can't convert the 32 bit userland directly to 64 bit. However, you can run the 32 bit userland with a 64 bit kernel. For example, you can borrow the kernel from the amd64 minimal install cd. The 64 bit kernel behaves essentially the same as the 32 bit one, so you only need to setup the bootloader like you normally would. After you've booted into a 64 bit kernel, you will be able to chroot from your 32 bit userland into a 64 bit stage3 and build your new system. Wow!!! That sounds the perfect solution. Is it possible? I just compile a 64bit kernel and chroot will be possible? Is there a place I can download the kernel from? Regards, Abhay pgp0fwhhGbINX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Abhay Kedia wrote: | On Thursday 12 January 2006 13:04, Zac Medico wrote: | Well, you can't convert the 32 bit userland directly to 64 bit. However, | you can run the 32 bit userland with a 64 bit kernel. For example, you can | borrow the kernel from the amd64 minimal install cd. The 64 bit kernel | behaves essentially the same as the 32 bit one, so you only need to setup | the bootloader like you normally would. After you've booted into a 64 bit | kernel, you will be able to chroot from your 32 bit userland into a 64 bit | stage3 and build your new system. | | Wow!!! That sounds the perfect solution. Is it possible? I just compile a | 64bit kernel and chroot will be possible? Is there a place I can download the | kernel from? You can boot off of the cd and build a kernel immediately or you can copy the cd's kernel. When booted from the cd, the kernel is found at /mnt/cdrom/isolinux/gentoo-em64t and corresponding modules are in /lib/modules. The install cd and stages are available from the /releases/amd64/2005.1-r1/ directory on the mirrors. Zac -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDxiVQ/ejvha5XGaMRAlwOAKCf9FrcOjHVtoxvh7oOGNTDFVEurQCgvnLg UGh456lLoB8I38YiuhsFMTg= =Nm3C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:57:43 +0530, Abhay Kedia wrote: I have a EM64T enabled processor but currently running x86 install. Now I would like to install 64bit Gentoo on this system but since this is the only PC that I have, it is indispensable for me. I can't put it in command line mode or run it on a live CD for 3-4 days and allow it to compile 64 bit Gentoo. So now what are the options for me? Do a stage 3 install plus GRP packages. You'll have a fully working 64 bit desktop in around an hour. Then edit make.conf and /etc/portage/* to suit your needs, emerge --sync and emerge -e world while using the system. -- Neil Bothwick Spock, I though you were dead! I rebooted, Captain. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
On Thursday 12 January 2006 05:08, Neil Bothwick wrote: Do a stage 3 install plus GRP packages. You'll have a fully working 64 bit desktop in around an hour. Then edit make.conf and /etc/portage/* to suit your needs, emerge --sync and emerge -e world while using the system. Thanks for the reply Neil but I don't have a fast connection. Just a 64kbps connection. If I follow GRP way then first I'll have to download a live CD, then the GRP Packages and then undergo the whole process of downloading other distfiles etc. It will be a really long and lengthy downloading process for me. Can't I do it from my existing 32 bit installation? Regards, Abhay pgp7qebz1I2Ss.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Abhay Kedia wrote: | Thanks for the reply Neil but I don't have a fast connection. Just a 64kbps | connection. If I follow GRP way then first I'll have to download a live CD, | then the GRP Packages and then undergo the whole process of downloading other | distfiles etc. It will be a really long and lengthy downloading process for | me. Can't I do it from my existing 32 bit installation? Well, you can't convert the 32 bit userland directly to 64 bit. However, you can run the 32 bit userland with a 64 bit kernel. For example, you can borrow the kernel from the amd64 minimal install cd. The 64 bit kernel behaves essentially the same as the 32 bit one, so you only need to setup the bootloader like you normally would. After you've booted into a 64 bit kernel, you will be able to chroot from your 32 bit userland into a 64 bit stage3 and build your new system. Zac -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDxgZ5/ejvha5XGaMRAqR7AJ9vcMNbZyPNggzzPm9p/R0LRp5sAACdEHE9 61vlBVy5Fr0kJF10jwPZOSQ= =P2Pj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
