Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing
Harry Putnam schrieb: Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without syncing my OS? http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Justinjus...@j-schmitz.net wrote: Harry Putnam schrieb: Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without syncing my OS? http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/ also http://packages.gentoo.org/ or http://gentoo-portage.com/Newest there is a similar site for all of the layman overlays, but I seem to have lost the bookmark and my Google searches are turning up nothing. Does anyone know it?
Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing
On 12 Jun 2009, at 15:40, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Justinjus...@j-schmitz.net wrote: Harry Putnam schrieb: Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without syncing my OS? http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/ also http://packages.gentoo.org/ or http://gentoo-portage.com/Newest The problem with this is that it's difficult to determine which packages on one's own system have updated. One must check individually for each atom in world. Harry: I'm not sure if it's possible _without_ syncing, but you can `cp -a / usr/portage /usr/portage.orig`, sync, `emerge -pv world` and then move the original tree back if you want to. It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync. If the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates are unimportant. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Strollerstrol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 12 Jun 2009, at 15:40, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Justinjus...@j-schmitz.net wrote: Harry Putnam schrieb: Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without syncing my OS? http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/ also http://packages.gentoo.org/ or http://gentoo-portage.com/Newest The problem with this is that it's difficult to determine which packages on one's own system have updated. One must check individually for each atom in world. Harry: I'm not sure if it's possible _without_ syncing, but you can `cp -a /usr/portage /usr/portage.orig`, sync, `emerge -pv world` and then move the original tree back if you want to. It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync. If the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates are unimportant. Stroller. I've wanted a way to do something like this for a long time. One problem with the way portage works with ( I guess) rsync or whatever it uses is that when someone decides to remove a package from portage that I'm currently using syncing removes it from my system also. Unfortunately before I do the sync I have no idea it has been removed so I don't know that it's going to get taken off my system. Once it does I can go find a copy and put it in a personal overlay but that requires I do the work after the damage is done. It would be nice if there was a message ahead of time that told me certain packages were going to be removed, etc., before it was actually done, but I understand from previous conversations that syncing doesn't work that way. This has come up numerous times for me on older hardware where, for instance, maybe some on-board graphics chip only works with older ATI drivers, and that ATI driver only works with older kernels. By the time sync is done I've lost the code for what my system is running, and unfortunately there's no messages that this is happening when I'm doing the sync so maybe I only figure it out a few weeks later and then have to mess around building an overlay using the attic. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:45:27 -0700
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
I've wanted a way to do something like this for a long time. One
problem with the way portage works with ( I guess) rsync or whatever
it uses is that when someone decides to remove a package from portage
that I'm currently using syncing removes it from my system also.
Unfortunately before I do the sync I have no idea it has been removed
so I don't know that it's going to get taken off my system. Once it
does I can go find a copy and put it in a personal overlay but that
requires I do the work after the damage is done. It would be nice if
there was a message ahead of time that told me certain packages were
going to be removed, etc., before it was actually done, but I
understand from previous conversations that syncing doesn't work that
way.
But why not?
alias emerge-sync='rm -Rf /usr/portage.bak mv /usr/portage{,.bak} \
emerge --sync
and to make.conf goes:
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--link-dest=/usr/portage.bak $PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS
And there you go: hardlinked new tree w/ old one easily accessible.
Note that it won't take much more time or bandwith or space than syncing
on top of the older tree, since same check will see that the files
in .bak dir and remote tree are identical and will just create another
hardlink to the same file.
And you're free to dispose of any dir with rm -Rf when you see fit.
Simple three-line no-brainer script will help you keep 10, 100, 1000 or
however many trees you like, occupying just a few MB more than a single
tree.
Furthermore, if you want to keep a hundred-year history of this tree,
just say something like this:
cd /usr/portage
echo -e local\ndistfiles\npackages .gitignore
git init
git add .
git commit -a -m portage bump
alias emerge-sync='cd /usr/portage git add . \
git commit -a -m portage bump emerge --sync'
and there you go, you'll never loose even a single bit of ebuild, no
matter how many times a day you keep syncing.
And .git storage will keep storage requiments of the whole thing to
minimum, keeping each change in the single place, compressing them,
etc...
Git-foo is too cryptic? There are few dozens of other VCS, of, for that
matter, ways to keep track of changes: snapshots, fs like venti/fossil,
rdup, even cp/tar.
Guess funtoo project is also worth mention in such context since it
uses git instead of rsync out-of-the-box.
This has come up numerous times for me on older hardware where, for
instance, maybe some on-board graphics chip only works with older ATI
drivers, and that ATI driver only works with older kernels. By the
time sync is done I've lost the code for what my system is running,
and unfortunately there's no messages that this is happening when I'm
doing the sync so maybe I only figure it out a few weeks later and
then have to mess around building an overlay using the attic.
No dev can ever satisfy every requiment of everyone if they are too
lazy to lift a finger to type a line or two themselves.
--
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 13:45, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Strollerstrol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 12 Jun 2009, at 15:40, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Justinjus...@j-schmitz.net wrote: Harry Putnam schrieb: Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without syncing my OS? http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/ also http://packages.gentoo.org/ or http://gentoo-portage.com/Newest The problem with this is that it's difficult to determine which packages on one's own system have updated. One must check individually for each atom in world. Harry: I'm not sure if it's possible _without_ syncing, but you can `cp -a /usr/portage /usr/portage.orig`, sync, `emerge -pv world` and then move the original tree back if you want to. It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync. If the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates are unimportant. Stroller. I've wanted a way to do something like this for a long time. One problem with the way portage works with ( I guess) rsync or whatever it uses is that when someone decides to remove a package from portage that I'm currently using syncing removes it from my system also. Unfortunately before I do the sync I have no idea it has been removed so I don't know that it's going to get taken off my system. Once it does I can go find a copy and put it in a personal overlay but that requires I do the work after the damage is done. It would be nice if there was a message ahead of time that told me certain packages were going to be removed, etc., before it was actually done, but I understand from previous conversations that syncing doesn't work that way. This has come up numerous times for me on older hardware where, for instance, maybe some on-board graphics chip only works with older ATI drivers, and that ATI driver only works with older kernels. By the time sync is done I've lost the code for what my system is running, and unfortunately there's no messages that this is happening when I'm doing the sync so maybe I only figure it out a few weeks later and then have to mess around building an overlay using the attic. Portage keeps a copy of installed packages under /var/db/pkg, AFAIK. So, even if sync removes it from the tree, you can move it from /var to your local overlay and keep using it... If you are doying a fresh install, you can get the old ebuilds from the attic. -- Daniel da Veiga
