Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Monday 17 February 2014 04:12 AM, Edward M wrote:
 On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530
 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote:
 
 rvices to customers, so compatibility is
 definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are
 between Oracle JDK  OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google
 are old and make sense only for Java 6.
 
Hello,
 
   To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source code
   released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own propriety
   code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is released under
   Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms for JAVA EE SDK,JDK
   where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking exceptions.  
 
 More info at: 
 
 https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers
 
 Best regards
 ED
 

So it would be correct to say that for Java EE applications, icedtea
would be enough? As per the link you gave me, it says some graphical
components  fonts are extra, none of which are used in case of web
applications.



RE: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Edward M .
Sorry for top post using my phone
Ice tea  is Java se. Glass server uses
Java EE because EE has added API and
Runtime to build enterprise secure apps.
sorry the link did not help.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Nilesh Govindrajanmailto:m...@nileshgr.com
Sent: ‎2/‎17/‎2014 6:07 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgmailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

On Monday 17 February 2014 04:12 AM, Edward M wrote:
 On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530
 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote:

 rvices to customers, so compatibility is
 definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are
 between Oracle JDK  OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google
 are old and make sense only for Java 6.

Hello,

   To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source code
   released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own propriety
   code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is released under
   Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms for JAVA EE SDK,JDK
   where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking exceptions.

 More info at:

 https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers

 Best regards
 ED


So it would be correct to say that for Java EE applications, icedtea
would be enough? As per the link you gave me, it says some graphical
components  fonts are extra, none of which are used in case of web
applications.



Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Edward M
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:57:46 -0800
Edward M. edwardm.gentoo.j...@live.com wrote:

 Sorry for top post using my phone
 Ice tea  is Java se. Glass server uses
 Java EE because EE has added API and
 Runtime to build enterprise secure apps.
 sorry the link did not help.
 
 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Nilesh Govindrajanmailto:m...@nileshgr.com
 Sent: ‎2/‎17/‎2014 6:07 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgmailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
 
 On Monday 17 February 2014 04:12 AM, Edward M wrote:
  On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530
  Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote:
 
  rvices to customers, so compatibility is
  definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are
  between Oracle JDK  OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on
  Google are old and make sense only for Java 6.
 
 Hello,
 
To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source
  code released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own
  propriety code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is
  released under Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms
  for JAVA EE SDK,JDK where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking
  exceptions.
 
  More info at:
 
  https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers
 
  Best regards
  ED
 
 
 So it would be correct to say that for Java EE applications, icedtea
 would be enough? 
   I was not satisfied with the reply i sent earlier. I'm not used to
   yet used to typing on a smartphone yet. 
   Java EE extends Java SE platform with added API for 
   object relational mapping, distributed and multi-tier architecture,
   web services,etc. Making it more useful servers. where as icedtea
   is basically Java SE,and would be missing the added components
   for Glassfish server that Java EE contains. 
   
   Found Java EE documentation from Oracle:
   http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/documentation/index.html
   http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/firstcup/doc/java-ee001.htm#GCRLZ
  
  
As per the link you gave me, it says some graphical
 components  fonts are extra, none of which are used in case of web
 applications.
 
   again sorry the link was not helpful 

 Best regards
 ED

  

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Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On 18 Feb 2014 06:04, Edward M edwardm.gentoo.j...@live.com wrote:

 On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:57:46 -0800
 Edward M. edwardm.gentoo.j...@live.com wrote:

  Sorry for top post using my phone
  Ice tea  is Java se. Glass server uses
  Java EE because EE has added API and
  Runtime to build enterprise secure apps.
  sorry the link did not help.
 
  Sent from my Windows Phone
  
  From: Nilesh Govindrajanmailto:m...@nileshgr.com
  Sent: ‎2/‎17/‎2014 6:07 AM
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgmailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
 
  On Monday 17 February 2014 04:12 AM, Edward M wrote:
   On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530
   Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote:
  
   rvices to customers, so compatibility is
   definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are
   between Oracle JDK  OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on
   Google are old and make sense only for Java 6.
  
  Hello,
  
 To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source
   code released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own
   propriety code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is
   released under Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms
   for JAVA EE SDK,JDK where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking
   exceptions.
  
   More info at:
  
   https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers
  
   Best regards
   ED
  
 
  So it would be correct to say that for Java EE applications, icedtea
  would be enough?
I was not satisfied with the reply i sent earlier. I'm not used to
yet used to typing on a smartphone yet.
Java EE extends Java SE platform with added API for
object relational mapping, distributed and multi-tier architecture,
web services,etc. Making it more useful servers. where as icedtea
is basically Java SE,and would be missing the added components
for Glassfish server that Java EE contains.

Found Java EE documentation from Oracle:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/documentation/index.html
http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/firstcup/doc/java-ee001.htm#GCRLZ


 As per the link you gave me, it says some graphical
  components  fonts are extra, none of which are used in case of web
  applications.

again sorry the link was not helpful

  Best regards
  ED



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 Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1.



No problem. Actually glassfish needs JDK7 as per their docs. So any JDK7
should work. Java EE is just a specification to be implemented by
application servers.


Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Edward M
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:11:17 +0530
Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote:

 No problem. Actually glassfish needs JDK7 as per their docs. So any
 JDK7 should work. Java EE is just a specification to be implemented by
 application servers.
 
  Yes Java EE extends Java SE platform with add ons, that is why i was
  not satisfied with the email i sent from my phone, i felt i was not 
  being clear. 
  I would suggest to use Oracle's JDK7 since it what glassfish calls
  for. that is what i'm using  in Gentoo along with
  Netbeans,etc. 

  Best Regards. 
  Ed
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Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Edward M
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:41:18 -0800
Edward M edwardm.gentoo.j...@live.com wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:11:17 +0530
 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote:
 
  No problem. Actually glassfish needs JDK7 as per their docs. So any
  JDK7 should work. Java EE is just a specification to be implemented
  by application servers.
  
   Yes Java EE extends Java SE platform with add ons, that is why i was
   not satisfied with the email i sent from my phone, i felt i was not 
   being clear. 
   I would suggest to use Oracle's JDK7 since it what glassfish calls
   for. that is what i'm using  in Gentoo along with
   Netbeans,etc. 
 
   Best Regards. 
   Ed

Nilesh,
 
I also want to add, it has been pleasure conversing about Java with
you and thank you for your patience. 

Best regards
Ed

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Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-16 Thread Edward M
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530
Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote:

 rvices to customers, so compatibility is
 definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are
 between Oracle JDK  OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google
 are old and make sense only for Java 6.

   Hello,

  To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source code
  released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own propriety
  code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is released under
  Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms for JAVA EE SDK,JDK
  where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking exceptions.  

More info at: 

https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers

Best regards
ED
-- 

Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1.