Re: [gentoo-user] KDE: unwanted dependencies
On 13/09/2013 12:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Hi people, I am about to update KDE from 4.10.4 to 4.11.1. Is it possible to avoid installing various nepomuks and akonadis which No appear to be required now? I have set USE=-semantic-desktop but it doesn't seem to help. My current KDE installation is quite happy without that stuff (which also brings along tons of other crap). The KDE maintainers posted quite extensively about this some time back. It is too hard to try and extract semantic-desktop out of the KDE build whilst not breaking everything else. What you now do is allow the stuff to be built, and disable the function in System Settings. What this in effect means is you spend an extra 20 minutes building and have a few more meg of disk space consumed by code than you never run. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE: unwanted dependencies
On 13.09.2013 14:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 13/09/2013 12:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Hi people, I am about to update KDE from 4.10.4 to 4.11.1. Is it possible to avoid installing various nepomuks and akonadis which No Pity. appear to be required now? I have set USE=-semantic-desktop but it doesn't seem to help. My current KDE installation is quite happy without that stuff (which also brings along tons of other crap). The KDE maintainers posted quite extensively about this some time back. Some time back I heard that KDE devs were striving to make KDE more modular. It is too hard to try and extract semantic-desktop out of the KDE build whilst not breaking everything else. What you now do is allow the stuff to be built, and disable the function in System Settings. Well why wasn't it too hard before? It's not quite obvious why one's got to extract some additional functionality, as opposed to including it when needed. A strange approach, all in all. What this in effect means is you spend an extra 20 minutes building and have a few more meg of disk space consumed by code than you never run. I personally care little about the megs, but the moral effect. Thousands of people posted much about these doubtful features and disabling them, and asked not to include them into KDE base, but all effort was vain. In trite words, KDE followed the windows way: we know better what you need... (Okay, no offense.) BTW, it seems that mysql is also a hard dependency for QT now. At least, the average joe can't be scorned any more for not having a server. Hey to all localhost admins! :) Thanks for clarification, Alan. -- Best wishes, Yuri K. Shatroff
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE: unwanted dependencies
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/09/2013 12:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Hi people, I am about to update KDE from 4.10.4 to 4.11.1. Is it possible to avoid installing various nepomuks and akonadis which No appear to be required now? I have set USE=-semantic-desktop but it doesn't seem to help. My current KDE installation is quite happy without that stuff (which also brings along tons of other crap). The KDE maintainers posted quite extensively about this some time back. It is too hard to try and extract semantic-desktop out of the KDE build whilst not breaking everything else. What you now do is allow the stuff to be built, and disable the function in System Settings. What this in effect means is you spend an extra 20 minutes building and have a few more meg of disk space consumed by code than you never run. There was a series of threads recently in the gentoo-desktop mailing list about someone proposing an overlay for KDE minus the semantic/nepomuk stuff. Search the archives for kde-lean.
