Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 22 January 2008, Wayn0 wrote: Now back on topic, I have never really been a KDE users in the past. I always stuck to openbox or GNOME. However there seems to be a lot of hype around the new KDE and I think I am gonna give it a go. KDE 4.0.0 is far from being as feature-rich as 3.5.x. It also has some rough edges and bugs. Try it out but don't be too disappointed. See it as the starting point of a long series of instalments. Hopefully, 4.0.1 will have most bugs ironed out. As for features, we will have to wait for 4.1. But, yeah, give it a try. Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Tuesday 22 January 2008, Wayn0 wrote: Dale wrote: So yeah anybody in Johannesburg need the sources let me know, will be downloading them this evening. It's 300-odd M, maybe you wanna come by my office in Randburg and get them off me? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
--- Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 January 2008, Wayn0 wrote: Now back on topic, I have never really been a KDE users in the past. I always stuck to openbox or GNOME. However there seems to be a lot of hype around the new KDE and I think I am gonna give it a go. KDE 4.0.0 is far from being as feature-rich as 3.5.x. It also has some rough edges and bugs. Try it out but don't be too disappointed. See it as the starting point of a long series of instalments. Hopefully, 4.0.1 will have most bugs ironed out. As for features, we will have to wait for 4.1. But, yeah, give it a try. Ok, so this is the first time I'm watching this (i.e. package upgrade like this) happen for Gentoo - or really any distro since I use to just grab the stuff from original source and install it based on latest stable, pretty much ignoring the package management systems. (Yeah, I used Slackware; now converted to Gentoo.) Any how...I'd like to play with KDE4 - namely for Dolphin as Konquerer drives me nuts for file system stuff, but I'm not wanting to do an overlay (at least, not yet - may be after I've used Gentoo for a while longer on my desktop). So I was wondering what kind of time frame would be likely for getting KDE4 to be pushed to testing and then to open availability. A couple months? Just curious. I noticed it finally showed up as a hard mask. TIA, Ben -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
2008/1/22, BRM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I was wondering what kind of time frame would be likely for getting KDE4 to be pushed to testing and then to open availability. A couple months? Just curious. I noticed it finally showed up as a hard mask. AFAIK 4.0.0 will not be unmasked. Only 4.0.1 (or 4.1?). -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Mantas Povilaitis wrote: AFAIK 4.0.0 will not be unmasked. Only 4.0.1 (or 4.1?). yep. from gentoo-dev: Wulf C. Krueger wrote: Carsten Lohrke wrote: The code base has too many issues and is incomplete compared to KDE 3.5, so it's not ready to push it to the regular ~arch user, yet. I didn't mean hard-masked. I've reconsidered, though, and seeing the new timeline upstream published for the 4.0.1, I agree. We'll see about 4.0.1's quality... Thus, KDE 4.0.0 is going to go in hard-masked. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why don't you have two terminals going - one doing -f, and the other compiling it for real. They will wait nicely for each other. At least then you'll get the compile going while you wait for the next download. Or set FEATURES=parallel-fetch in /etc/make.conf -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum of the individual downloads and compiles. Not if you add parallel-fetch to FEATURES. -- Neil Bothwick Press any key... no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum of the individual downloads and compiles. Not if you add parallel-fetch to FEATURES. That's what I have turned on, just in case. I try to keep the modem going all the time. It's not like it is going to over heat or anything. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather than the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that switched to it by default now. How do I prevent a --depclean from trying to delete my KDE 3.5 though? Cheers, Dave. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlJ8Tx43ifHzpDVURApy/AJ9Qe5xpDh2XyPnQApSojap0DJ4+AwCfSgPk wBK0vJe/7ToC+Id/c85tUV4= =FZ5Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 21 January 2008, Dave Oxley wrote: I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather than the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that switched to it by default now. For me, kmail does not appear in the apps launcher (other 3.5.8 apps do) nor can I start it with krunner. Konsole crashes on startup. No such problems on your side? Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:33:07 +1100, Dave Oxley wrote: How do I prevent a --depclean from trying to delete my KDE 3.5 though? grep '^kde-base' /var/lib/portage/world | sed 's/\(.*\)/~\1-3.5.8/' /var/lib/portage/world -- Neil Bothwick Suborbital Ballistic-Propulsion Engineer Not Exactly A Rocket Scientist signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Hi,everyone,I wanted to install KDE4 and meet a problem like this
:
emerge kde
Linking CXX shared module ../../../../lib/kcm_kwinoptions.so
[ 45%] Built target kcm_kwinoptions
make: *** [all] Error 2
*
* ERROR: kde-base/kdebase-4.0.0 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1701: Called dyn_compile
* ebuild.sh, line 1039: Called qa_call 'src_compile'
* ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile
* kdebase-4.0.0.ebuild, line 212: Called kde4-base_src_compile
* kde4-base.eclass, line 298: Called kde4-base_src_make
* kde4-base.eclass, line 345: Called cmake-utils_src_make
* cmake-utils.eclass, line 146: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake $@ || die Make failed!
* The die message:
* Make failed!
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
* A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-
4.0.0/temp/build.log'.
and I searched for a while and try emerge -D kde,but when emerging
kdenetwork:
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdenetwork-4.0.0/work/kdenetwork-4.0.0/filesharing/advanced/kcm_sambaconf/sharedlgimpl.h:52:
error: expected class-name before '{' token
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdenetwork-4.0.0/work/kdenetwork-4.0.0/filesharing/advanced/kcm_sambaconf/sharedlgimpl.h:52:
warning: 'class ShareDlgImpl' has virtual functions but non-virtual
destructor
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdenetwork-4.0.0/work/kdenetwork-4.0.0/filesharing/advanced/kcm_sambaconf/kcmsambaconf.h:157:
error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'KcmInterface' with no type
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdenetwork-4.0.0/work/kdenetwork-4.0.0/filesharing/advanced/kcm_sambaconf/kcmsambaconf.h:157:
error: expected ';' before '*' token
/usr/kde/4.0/include/kcmodule.h:214: warning: 'virtual void
KCModule::load()' was hidden
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdenetwork-4.0.0/work/kdenetwork-4.0.0/filesharing/advanced/kcm_sambaconf/kcmsambaconf.h:75:
warning: by 'void KcmSambaConf::load(const QString)'
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdenetwork-4.0.0/work/kdenetwork-4.0.0/filesharing/advanced/kcm_sambaconf/kcmsambaconf.cpp:
In constructor 'KcmSambaConf::KcmSambaConf(const KComponentData, QWidget*,
const char*)':
* ERROR: kde-base/kdenetwork-4.0.0 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1701: Called dyn_compile
* ebuild.sh, line 1039: Called qa_call 'src_compile'
* ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile
* kdenetwork-4.0.0.ebuild, line 113: Called kde4-base_src_compile
* kde4-base.eclass, line 298: Called kde4-base_src_make
* kde4-base.eclass, line 345: Called cmake-utils_src_make
*cmake-utils.eclass, line 146: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake $@ || die Make failed!
* The die message:
* Make failed!
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
* A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdenetwork-
4.0.0/temp/build.log'
Did anyone meet problems like me?
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --22:27:31-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 4,032,455 (3.8M) (unauthoritative) 63% [== ] 2,549,928 2.18K/sETA 12:55 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Could be worse I guess. :/ Dale :-) :-) Dale, are you still getting ATT/Bellsouth? If so I have 3 modems that work-(as a back-up) that I'll send to you as a back-up. Let me know if you need any cd's or stuff and I''l send them to you. I live close to you in NOLA. -- Edward A Mihalow Jr Mudbug Computers and Networks Gentoo! Linux Registered Linux User#225662 New Orleans,LA -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Montag, 21. Januar 2008, Dave Oxley wrote: I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather than the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that switched to it by default now. How do I prevent a --depclean from trying to delete my KDE 3.5 though? I don't know what you are doing wrong - but depclean does not want to remove kde-3.5. Kde3.5 and 4 are slotted - so no reason to depclean: These are the packages that would be unmerged: kde-base/kmail selected: 3.97.0 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/korganizer selected: 3.97.0 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/lisa selected: 3.97.0 protected: none omitted: 3.5.8 . . . ... -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --22:27:31-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 4,032,455 (3.8M) (unauthoritative) 63% [== ] 2,549,928 2.18K/sETA 12:55 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Could be worse I guess. :/ Dale :-) :-) Dale, are you still getting ATT/Bellsouth? If so I have 3 modems that work-(as a back-up) that I'll send to you as a back-up. Let me know if you need any cd's or stuff and I''l send them to you. I live close to you in NOLA. I got a friend that is going to let me borrow his until I can get one. I don't want to get a contract on the DSL so I don't want to get one from ATT. I did check on Ebay tho. Interested in selling one of yours? No idea how much one costs really. I'm sure ATT wants a arm and a leg for one tho. A little more progress last night, all night. LOL Emerging (39 of 209) kde-base/kdebase-data-4.0.0 to / Resuming download... Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --05:46:32-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == SIZE kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. == PASV ... done.== REST 7883580 ... done. == RETR kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 48,097,008 (46M), 40,213,428 (38M) remaining SNIP 79% [+=== ] 38,032,388 3.42K/s ETA 1:28:03 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I think it is only a couple big ones left. May start the compile before to long. :-) Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Dale wrote: Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --22:27:31-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 4,032,455 (3.8M) (unauthoritative) 63% [== ] 2,549,928 2.18K/sETA 12:55 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Could be worse I guess. :/ Dale :-) :-) Dale, are you still getting ATT/Bellsouth? If so I have 3 modems that work-(as a back-up) that I'll send to you as a back-up. Let me know if you need any cd's or stuff and I''l send them to you. I live close to you in NOLA. I got a friend that is going to let me borrow his until I can get one. I don't want to get a contract on the DSL so I don't want to get one from ATT. I did check on Ebay tho. Interested in selling one of yours? No idea how much one costs really. I'm sure ATT wants a arm and a leg for one tho. A little more progress last night, all night. LOL Emerging (39 of 209) kde-base/kdebase-data-4.0.0 to / Resuming download... Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --05:46:32-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == SIZE kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. == PASV ... done.== REST 7883580 ... done. == RETR kdebase-runtime-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 48,097,008 (46M), 40,213,428 (38M) remaining SNIP 79% [+=== ] 38,032,388 3.42K/s ETA 1:28:03 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I think it is only a couple big ones left. May start the compile before to long. :-) Dale :-) :-) I'll give you one, just contact me off list. -- Edward A Mihalow Jr Mudbug Computers and Networks Gentoo! Linux Registered Linux User#225662 New Orleans,LA -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Monday 21 January 2008 06:40:42 pm Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:09 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum of the individual downloads and compiles. Not if you add parallel-fetch to FEATURES. last time I used parallel-fetch (a while ago) it looked different to Dale's output though - I don't remember seeing the wget style completion: 79% [+=== ] but rather I see the message (just tried it out now) Downloading 'jdk-6u4-dlj-linux-i586.bin'... see /var/log/emerge-fetch.log for details. hmm... -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au What you are seeing is the result of a RESUMED download... Try grabbing a file, interrupt the download then follow up with fetching it again. You'll see the above -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Jerry McBride wrote: On Monday 21 January 2008 06:40:42 pm Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:09 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum of the individual downloads and compiles. Not if you add parallel-fetch to FEATURES. last time I used parallel-fetch (a while ago) it looked different to Dale's output though - I don't remember seeing the wget style completion: 79% [+=== ] but rather I see the message (just tried it out now) Downloading 'jdk-6u4-dlj-linux-i586.bin'... see /var/log/emerge-fetch.log for details. hmm... -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au What you are seeing is the result of a RESUMED download... Try grabbing a file, interrupt the download then follow up with fetching it again. You'll see the above Yep, it was a resumed download. If for example I started the emerge of KDE, it would start to download and compile whatever it has downloaded already. However, if it comes to a package that has not been downloaded, it will show the other thing that it is waiting on the download to finish. I almost always do a -f first. This is so slow that it can compile it way faster than it can download it. Plus, I can see how big it is and how much it has left to download. I walked up to the phone box today, they been working on it some more. I saw a lot of wire insulation on the ground where they have been hooking up wires. Dale says a prayer that it is soon I figure it will be here shortly after I get KDE and OOo downloaded. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Dale wrote: Dale says a prayer that it is soon I feel you pain I was on dial up for many years and until just two years ago! After which I moved to the UK for a short time where I was suddenly paying the for 16mb uncapped as I was for my dial up! I am back in South Africa now and using a 4mb line, but I will never forget my dial up days! Good luck and I hope they get you set-up ASAP. :-) Now back on topic, I have never really been a KDE users in the past. I always stuck to openbox or GNOME. However there seems to be a lot of hype around the new KDE and I think I am gonna give it a go. So yeah anybody in Johannesburg need the sources let me know, will be downloading them this evening. Regards Wayn0 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: H, I get this blocker: [blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1) Is unmerging qt a good idea? Yes, looking in the ebuild, qt-4.4 seems to be organized as a meta package and you have older monolithic ones. So you will have to unmerge your old qt-4 stuff first alan -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three kdebase tarballs: kdebase 3.9MB kdebase-runtime 46MB kdebase-workspace29MB Good luck with dialup! Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: H, I get this blocker: [blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1) Is unmerging qt a good idea? Yes, looking in the ebuild, qt-4.4 seems to be organized as a meta package and you have older monolithic ones. So you will have to unmerge your old qt-4 stuff first alan Thanks for the info. I know Python, portage, gcc and a couple others are bad to remove but I wasn't real sure about qt. I think I'll go to a console and do it all in one line, just to be sure. Wouldn't want KDE to crash in the middle of it. I usually use Konsole for that stuff. Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ Thanks again. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three kdebase tarballs: kdebase 3.9MB kdebase-runtime 46MB kdebase-workspace29MB Good luck with dialup! Uwe Tell me about it. I have already been at it for about 15 hours or so. Total: 205 packages (2 upgrades, 80 new, 123 in new slots, 1 block), Size of downloads: 222,586 kB I used to think OOo was big. LOL DSL is supposed to be here soon tho, I hope. Dale :-) :-) P.S. I still have a OOo update in the mask section. Going to try KDE 4.0 first. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ On a second thought: Can't a kind soul in the US send Dale the tarballs on a CD? (I'd do it, but it would take forever from here.) Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ On a second thought: Can't a kind soul in the US send Dale the tarballs on a CD? (I'd do it, but it would take forever from here.) Uwe Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we had cable then. Of course, I was told we would be getting DSL real soon. They have put in the new box, hooked up the fiber optic cables and stuff so far. They got to put in the cards that do the DSL thing next. I'm not sure when that will happen but shouldn't be to long. I been promised that I would be #1 on the list even if I was just a tester at first. Not real sure how to set up Linux to login yet but I'm sure I'll get something figured out. :-) Funny thing is, we were supposed to have DSL before hurricane Katrina hit but they had to go run new stuff down on the coast, which I totally understand too. Where we live, there are a lot of Drs and stuff now. They will have a LOT of customers once they get it set up. I have had one person that said they would stay with dial-up. Right now, I'm connected at 24K and get a throughput of about 3K/sec. Click on a bunch of links and go eat supper, take a bath or something like that. :-p It does teach patience tho. LOL Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. Oh well, by Tuesday night I should have it downloaded and ready to go. I use the -f switch and get it all before I start to compile stuff. Total: 205 packages (2 upgrades, 80 new, 123 in new slots, 1 block), Size of downloads: 205,439 kB Made some progress so far. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On AD 2008 January 20 Sunday 06:48:10 AM -0600, Dale wrote: Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. I pay $40/month for 14 Mib up and down and I can run it at max throughput indefinitely. I seeded all 92 gentoo torrents for a month once to test this out. :-) Here in Utah, USA we have the largest community fiber network in the country called UTOPIA. I'm only on iProvo, but on UTOPIA they can get 50 Mib for a residential link. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three kdebase tarballs: kdebase 3.9MB kdebase-runtime 46MB kdebase-workspace29MB Good luck with dialup! Thanks for the reminder If anyone on this mailing list isn't able to grab the gentoo sources in a reasonable amount of time (ie. dialup) I'm willing to copy and burn to cdrw or dvdrw anything you desire... Just ask me via my email address. What I prefer to do, is work with users that are in the USA and are willing to swap disks or at least give me a $1.00 or $2.00 to cover material and shipping. That said, if you're really financially strapped... I'll assume all costs involved... Whatever... I'm easy. Cheers and May the Penguin Be Kind to You. P.S. Kde 4.0 is a real looker. Compiled free of defects, aside from having to fix a few USE's that I didn't have prior... -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Justin Findlay wrote: On AD 2008 January 20 Sunday 06:48:10 AM -0600, Dale wrote: Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. I pay $40/month for 14 Mib up and down and I can run it at max throughput indefinitely. I seeded all 92 gentoo torrents for a month once to test this out. :-) Here in Utah, USA we have the largest community fiber network in the country called UTOPIA. I'm only on iProvo, but on UTOPIA they can get 50 Mib for a residential link. Justin I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while I was napping. I'm here now: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --10:48:22-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 41,886,885 (40M) (unauthoritative) 23% [== ] 9,760,968 2.61K/s ETA 4:48:59 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I had to stop it to send in a folding unit thingy. Can't do more than one thing at a time on this connection. :-( Even Kopete pitches a fit sometimes. It's 12:40 now, so by dark I should have that ONE completed. ;-) Dang, 14Mbs both ways. Dale drools and slobbers everywhere Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while I was napping. I'm here now: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz 2' --10:48:22-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 41,886,885 (40M) (unauthoritative) 23% [== ] 9,760,968 2.61K/s ETA 4:48:59 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I had to stop it to send in a folding unit thingy. Can't do more than one thing at a time on this connection. :-( Even Kopete pitches a fit sometimes. It's 12:40 now, so by dark I should have that ONE completed. ;-) Dang, 14Mbs both ways. Dale drools and slobbers everywhere I feel your pain. Until recently I was on a 56k dial-up that thought 33k was fast If anyone on this list is in Johannesburg and would like a copy of the kde4 sources, drop me a mail. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 20 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while I was napping. I'm here now: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz 2' --10:48:22-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 41,886,885 (40M) (unauthoritative) 23% [== ] 9,760,968 2.61K/s ETA 4:48:59 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I had to stop it to send in a folding unit thingy. Can't do more than one thing at a time on this connection. :-( Even Kopete pitches a fit sometimes. It's 12:40 now, so by dark I should have that ONE completed. ;-) Dang, 14Mbs both ways. Dale drools and slobbers everywhere I feel your pain. Until recently I was on a 56k dial-up that thought 33k was fast If anyone on this list is in Johannesburg and would like a copy of the kde4 sources, drop me a mail. Same here in Windhoek. Just bring a memory stick large enough and a Windhoek lager. ;-) Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 20 January 2008, Justin Findlay wrote: I pay $40/month for 14 Mib up and down and I can run it at max throughput indefinitely. I seeded all 92 gentoo torrents for a month once to test this out. :-) Here in Utah, USA we have the largest community fiber network in the country called UTOPIA. I'm only on iProvo, but on UTOPIA they can get 50 Mib for a residential link. You lucky bastard over there in Utopia! ;-) My ADSL is 256Kb downstream and 64Kb upstream. I pay about USD50 per month with a data cap of 1GB per month. Still, this is far better and cheaper than the dialup connection I have had before. The so-called digital divide isn't all that much about technology, computers or other gadgets.; It's about knowledge and, mainly, bandwidth and its costs. I still have customers that run a 100 workstations business on a 128Kb line, paying more than USD1000 per month for it. Alright, we are straying far from the topic here. Good luck to Dale! Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 12:37 -0600, Dale wrote: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --10:48:22-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 41,886,885 (40M) (unauthoritative) 23% [== ] 9,760,968 2.61K/s ETA 4:48:59 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I had to stop it to send in a folding unit thingy. Can't do more than one thing at a time on this connection. :-( Even Kopete pitches a fit sometimes. It's 12:40 now, so by dark I should have that ONE completed. ;-) Dang, 14Mbs both ways. Dale drools and slobbers everywhere Dale didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au The meek shall inherit the Earth. (But they're gonna have to fight for it.) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we had cable then. Funny, in all the recent discussion on creating an install CD, I never thought of this reason for them - that some people can still order them snail-mail faster than downloading it. Thanks for bringing me back inline! Of course, I was told we would be getting DSL real soon. They have put in the new box, hooked up the fiber optic cables and stuff so far. They got to put in the cards that do the DSL thing next. I'm not sure when that will happen but shouldn't be to long. I been promised that I would be #1 on the list even if I was just a tester at first. Not real sure how to set up Linux to login yet but I'm sure I'll get something figured out. :-) the best way, IMHO is to get a router/firewall/switch that does it all for you. You will need an aDSL modem anyway, and nowadays cheap routers don't cost much (if any) more. Funny thing is, we were supposed to have DSL before hurricane Katrina hit but they had to go run new stuff down on the coast, which I totally understand too. Where we live, there are a lot of Drs and stuff now. They will have a LOT of customers once they get it set up. I have had one person that said they would stay with dial-up. Right now, I'm connected at 24K and get a throughput of about 3K/sec. Click on a bunch of links and go eat supper, take a bath or something like that. :-p It does teach patience tho. LOL I remember the days... If my kids ever complain about internet speeds (they're only 2.5, and -0.6 atm) I'll whip 'em down to dial up and say In my day... Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. You mean you don't have a fixed cost dial-up number? I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. plus you can VOIP which saves more $ Oh well, by Tuesday night I should have it downloaded and ready to go. I use the -f switch and get it all before I start to compile stuff. Why don't you have two terminals going - one doing -f, and the other compiling it for real. They will wait nicely for each other. At least then you'll get the compile going while you wait for the next download. Total: 205 packages (2 upgrades, 80 new, 123 in new slots, 1 block), Size of downloads: 205,439 kB Made some progress so far. LOL We just upgraded to 8Mbit at work... Makes an emerge --sync nice :) Nicer than 1.5Mbit anyway. I know there are faster speeds out there, but for now 8Mbit is enough for anyone! Dale :-) :-) cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I read the newspaper avidly. It is my one form of continuous fiction. -- Aneurin Bevan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 19:50 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Read Neil's reply. He hit the nail on the finger. That's worthy of sending to Scott Adams! I hope he hit the nail on the (it's) head, not on his finger :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au ER...HO. HO. HO. -- Death makes a career move (Terry Pratchett, Hogfather) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --22:27:31-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 4,032,455 (3.8M) (unauthoritative) 63% [== ] 2,549,928 2.18K/sETA 12:55 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Could be worse I guess. :/ Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Iain Buchanan wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we had cable then. Funny, in all the recent discussion on creating an install CD, I never thought of this reason for them - that some people can still order them snail-mail faster than downloading it. Thanks for bringing me back inline! Actually, I mentioned that once in that discussion. Could you imagine a reinstall and having to download ALL the distfiles? I keep a back up of my distfiles, two of them, snapshot and all. I figure about 2 weeks of downloading and installing, mostly downloading. Of course, I was told we would be getting DSL real soon. They have put in the new box, hooked up the fiber optic cables and stuff so far. They got to put in the cards that do the DSL thing next. I'm not sure when that will happen but shouldn't be to long. I been promised that I would be #1 on the list even if I was just a tester at first. Not real sure how to set up Linux to login yet but I'm sure I'll get something figured out. :-) the best way, IMHO is to get a router/firewall/switch that does it all for you. You will need an aDSL modem anyway, and nowadays cheap routers don't cost much (if any) more. I plan to get a Linksys router. That should work right? That's what we had on my ex's cable connection too. Funny thing is, we were supposed to have DSL before hurricane Katrina hit but they had to go run new stuff down on the coast, which I totally understand too. Where we live, there are a lot of Drs and stuff now. They will have a LOT of customers once they get it set up. I have had one person that said they would stay with dial-up. Right now, I'm connected at 24K and get a throughput of about 3K/sec. Click on a bunch of links and go eat supper, take a bath or something like that. :-p It does teach patience tho. LOL I remember the days... If my kids ever complain about internet speeds (they're only 2.5, and -0.6 atm) I'll whip 'em down to dial up and say In my day... Put on a 9800. Man, they will learn quick then for sure. -0.6? The biscuits still in the oven? Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. You mean you don't have a fixed cost dial-up number? Well, because we have what is called measured circle, which means we can call other towns and they are considered local but with limits on the number of minutes each month. I go aver that limit and they charge a little more for that. It's the phone company. They get you any way they can. I understand why Vonage is doing so well. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. plus you can VOIP which saves more $ Plan to check on that too. Oh well, by Tuesday night I should have it downloaded and ready to go. I use the -f switch and get it all before I start to compile stuff. Why don't you have two terminals going - one doing -f, and the other compiling it for real. They will wait nicely for each other. At least then you'll get the compile going while you wait for the next download. I could just leave off the -f and it would do the same but I like to watch the progress. O_O Total: 205 packages (2 upgrades, 80 new, 123 in new slots, 1 block), Size of downloads: 205,439 kB Made some progress so far. LOL We just upgraded to 8Mbit at work... Makes an emerge --sync nice :) Nicer than 1.5Mbit anyway. I know there are faster speeds out there, but for now 8Mbit is enough for anyone! Dale :-) :-) cya, I plan to start out on the basic plan then may upgrade to a faster one as I can. Maybe by then Gentoo will have some other issues sorted out and I can help in other ways. This dial-up sort of limits a person a lot. Well, 12 hour limit. Better log off and reconnect then start again. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 23:03 -0600, Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we had cable then. Funny, in all the recent discussion on creating an install CD, I never thought of this reason for them - that some people can still order them snail-mail faster than downloading it. Thanks for bringing me back inline! Actually, I mentioned that once in that discussion. oh. well, in my defence there was a hellofalotof discussion and I tried to stay interested but I did miss a few comments :) Could you imagine a reinstall and having to download ALL the distfiles? ... Yeah, did that once and didn't like it even on 512kbit! ... Not real sure how to set up Linux to login yet but I'm sure I'll get something figured out. :-) the best way, IMHO is to get a router/firewall/switch that does it all for you. You will need an aDSL modem anyway, and nowadays cheap routers don't cost much (if any) more. I plan to get a Linksys router. That should work right? That's what we had on my ex's cable connection too. so long as it's not a cable modem ;) The Billion 7404 works great here, but then I think that's country-specific so you might not have the exact model. ... Right now, I'm connected at 24K and get a throughput of about 3K/sec. Click on a bunch of links and go eat supper, take a bath or something like that. :-p It does teach patience tho. LOL I remember the days... If my kids ever complain about internet speeds (they're only 2.5, and -0.6 atm) I'll whip 'em down to dial up and say In my day... Put on a 9800. Man, they will learn quick then for sure. Hey Iain, how come your kids are so well behaved? Me: We have a system. An untidy room looses you 100kbit/s; fighting looses you 200kbit/s; not eating dinner looses you 50kbit/s... -0.6? The biscuits still in the oven? Yep, almost half way to going through it all again! Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. You mean you don't have a fixed cost dial-up number? Well, because we have what is called measured circle, which means we can call other towns and they are considered local but with limits on the number of minutes each month. I go aver that limit and they charge a little more for that. It's the phone company. They get you any way they can. I understand why Vonage is doing so well. They're as bad as banks - the major telco here has tried a number of times to get timed local calls through, but luckily they're still partly gov't owned, so there's too much outcry. Essentially any call in the same city is local. There are even national dial-up numbers which are special number that ISP's can get. They're charged at local call rates no matter where you are in Australia. I remember staying connected for about 4 days once :) I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. plus you can VOIP which saves more $ Plan to check on that too. just make sure you go with a quality provider! There are cheap and nasty providers (here anyway) where call quality is not worth it, and there are quality providers that guarantee a certain level of quality and service. But so long as you don't lock yourself into a plan, you can chop change as you like. Oh well, by Tuesday night I should have it downloaded and ready to go. I use the -f switch and get it all before I start to compile stuff. Why don't you have two terminals going - one doing -f, and the other compiling it for real. They will wait nicely for each other. At least then you'll get the compile going while you wait for the next download. I could just leave off the -f and it would do the same but I like to watch the progress. O_O not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum of the individual downloads and compiles. emerge -f world and emerge -u world in two separate windows would start downloading, but then as soon as the first package is downloaded, it starts compiling while the next is being downloaded. So by the time you get to downloading the last package, everything but that last package has already been compiled and installed (for a very slow connection. If you had a fast connection, you often finish downloading well before you've compiled and
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? Uwe For future reference, check out autounmask. I found out about it the other day. I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works. Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to have 3.5.8* version to do this. Not sure why tho. Isn't KDE 4.0 slotted? Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version you want to log into? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? Uwe For future reference, check out autounmask. I found out about it the other day. I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works. Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to have 3.5.8* version to do this. Not sure why tho. Isn't KDE 4.0 slotted? Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version you want to log into? Dale :-) :-) Autounmask looks to work, but some packets with ~86 I think need manual check. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:52:45 Δημήτριος Ροπόκης wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? Uwe For future reference, check out autounmask. I found out about it the other day. I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works. Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to have 3.5.8* version to do this. Not sure why tho. Isn't KDE 4.0 slotted? Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version you want to log into? Dale :-) :-) Autounmask looks to work, but some packets with ~86 I think need manual check. hi, you need to unmask kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 and emerge that. should work :) Paul -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? Uwe For future reference, check out autounmask. I found out about it the other day. I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works. I'll have look into autounmask. Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to have 3.5.8* version to do this. Not sure why tho. Isn't KDE 4.0 slotted? Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version you want to log into? Exactly. So why is kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (which is not even installed here) blocking kdelibs-4.0.0? Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:32:13 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? It's 3.5.7, do you have an older version lying around, as well as 3.5.8? Or it something else trying to pull it in, what does --tree tell you? -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 3: Working vacation signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Uwe Thiem wrote: ??? According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my original post. Uwe I can't find it but I read somewhere that portage wants at least 3.5.8-r2 or better to install 4.0. Again, I have NO CLUE why. My question if this is true, what if you never had KDE installed to begin with? Then what? Install the old one then upgrade? Something fishy. I also read where there is a issue or two with regard to qt. May want to get your boots on for that too. Confused. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 19 January 2008, Paul Salters wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:52:45 Δημήτριος Ροπόκης wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? Uwe For future reference, check out autounmask. I found out about it the other day. I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works. Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to have 3.5.8* version to do this. Not sure why tho. Isn't KDE 4.0 slotted? Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version you want to log into? Dale :-) :-) Autounmask looks to work, but some packets with ~86 I think need manual check. hi, you need to unmask kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 and emerge that. should work :) ??? According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my original post. Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Uwe Thiem schreef: On 19 January 2008, Paul Salters wrote: hi, you need to unmask kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 and emerge that. should work :) ??? According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my original post. It is blocking older versions 3.5.7-r6. Upgrade to 3.5.7-r6 and the block will be gone. Juul -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:32:13 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? It's 3.5.7, do you have an older version lying around, as well as 3.5.8? Or it something else trying to pull it in, what does --tree tell you? Oh, gawd! I completely missed the . =8-O Yes, I do have some older versions of KDE lying around. Alright, some unmerge to be done. BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever visit Namibia. ;-) Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever visit Namibia. ;-) I may just take you up on that ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Bother said Pooh when C4 postponed B5 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: ??? According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my original post. Uwe I can't find it but I read somewhere that portage wants at least 3.5.8-r2 or better to install 4.0. Again, I have NO CLUE why. My question if this is true, what if you never had KDE installed to begin with? Then what? Install the old one then upgrade? Something fishy. I also read where there is a issue or two with regard to qt. May want to get your boots on for that too. Confused. Read Neil's reply. He hit the nail on the finger. Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever visit Namibia. ;-) I may just take you up on that ;-) Neil, print that mail off and keep it in a safe place, Uwe is offering you the good stuff. And Hansa draught is the very very very good stuff :-) It's so good that we can hardly ever get it a mere 1000km away :-( -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 19 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever visit Namibia. ;-) I may just take you up on that ;-) Neil, print that mail off and keep it in a safe place, Uwe is offering you the good stuff. And Hansa draught is the very very very good stuff :-) It's so good that we can hardly ever get it a mere 1000km away :-( @Alan: Drive to Hermanus, they have it there. ;-) The best beer in my book is Pilsener Urquell. Unfortunately, South African Breweries (SAB) has bought the brewery over there. I can't tell a decline in quality yet, but a friend of mine, a brewer at Namibia Breweries, tells me they can measure it already. In the long run, SAB will fuck Pilsener Urquell like they have fucked the beer of every brewery they have bought. I have been told, though, that there are quite some micro-breweries in South Africa that still make good stuff. Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? Uwe For future reference, check out autounmask. I found out about it the other day. I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works. I'll have look into autounmask. Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to have 3.5.8* version to do this. Not sure why tho. Isn't KDE 4.0 slotted? Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version you want to log into? Exactly. So why is kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (which is not even installed here) blocking kdelibs-4.0.0? error in ebuild? I did not have that block. Maybe you should remove the blocker from the ebuild. Apart from that, kde4 installed very nice in parallel to 3.5 - in 2.5h (with qt4 rebuilt). Sadly I can not use it - because of a reiser4 problem... -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Saturday 19 January 2008 02:58:11 pm Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? Uwe For future reference, check out autounmask. I found out about it the other day. I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works. I'll have look into autounmask. Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to have 3.5.8* version to do this. Not sure why tho. Isn't KDE 4.0 slotted? Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version you want to log into? Exactly. So why is kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (which is not even installed here) blocking kdelibs-4.0.0? error in ebuild? I did not have that block. Maybe you should remove the blocker from the ebuild. Apart from that, kde4 installed very nice in parallel to 3.5 - in 2.5h (with qt4 rebuilt). Sadly I can not use it - because of a reiser4 problem... Same here, no blockers... however I kdelibs-4 wanted accessibility use flag enabled in qt4... so... recompile qt4 with use flag set and I'm off compiling kde4... I can't wait!!! P.S. Autounmask worked like a charm... -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Jerry McBride wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008 02:58:11 pm Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: error in ebuild? I did not have that block. Maybe you should remove the blocker from the ebuild. Apart from that, kde4 installed very nice in parallel to 3.5 - in 2.5h (with qt4 rebuilt). Sadly I can not use it - because of a reiser4 problem... Same here, no blockers... however I kdelibs-4 wanted accessibility use flag enabled in qt4... so... recompile qt4 with use flag set and I'm off compiling kde4... I can't wait!!! P.S. Autounmask worked like a charm... H, I get this blocker: [blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1) Is unmerging qt a good idea? Dale :-) :-) P.S. Yea, autounmask is pretty cool. ;-) Anybody check out the noversion option yet? I did a -p of it. Seemed to be pretty cool. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
