Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program

2005-08-10 Thread Frank Schafer
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 21:14 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote:
 On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400
 Daniel D Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is anyone aware of  a decent comm program for Linux?  Something along the 
  lines of SecureCRT for Windows?  (SecureCRT is a commercial program.  
  There's 
  supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much prefer to use Open 
  Source.)  I can't seem to find anything but stuff that was written in the 
  '90s like minicom  or programs that have limited capabilities.  For 
  example, 
  Komport (KDE's serial comm program) is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite 
  the fact that it's a GUI program.  I'm looking for a GUI program with a 
  scrollback buffer, scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its 
  various 
  flavors, serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc.  This is the 
  kind of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would 
  scratch, 
  but I haven't been able to find anything close.
  
 
 No gui program I know of.  But Ruby will allow you to do all that.  As it 
 supports
 the tk widget library, among other interfaces, the gui is fairly straight 
 forward.
 
 Bob
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Hi,

If I nd a GUI program I'm using Putty. Otherwise ssh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from a shell prompt.

I'm pretty sure that the GNOMErs and KDErs have something too.

Regards
Frank

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program

2005-08-10 Thread Daniel D Jones
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 02:30 am, Frank Schafer wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 21:14 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote:
  On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400
 
  Daniel D Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Is anyone aware of  a decent comm program for Linux?  Something along
   the lines of SecureCRT for Windows?  (SecureCRT is a commercial
   program.  There's supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much
   prefer to use Open Source.)  I can't seem to find anything but stuff
   that was written in the '90s like minicom  or programs that have
   limited capabilities.  For example, Komport (KDE's serial comm program)
   is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite the fact that it's a GUI
   program.  I'm looking for a GUI program with a scrollback buffer,
   scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its various flavors,
   serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc.  This is the kind
   of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would scratch,
   but I haven't been able to find anything close.
 
  No gui program I know of.  But Ruby will allow you to do all that.  As it
  supports the tk widget library, among other interfaces, the gui is fairly
  straight forward.
 
  Bob
  -

 Hi,

 If I nd a GUI program I'm using Putty. Otherwise ssh
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a shell prompt.

 I'm pretty sure that the GNOMErs and KDErs have something too.

When I say I need a GUI, I mean I need something with a scroll-back buffer.  
I'm a Cisco tech and being able to look at back at output that's scrolled off 
the screen is vital.  A program like, say, Konsole, would be fine.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program

2005-08-10 Thread Frank Schafer
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 07:09 -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 August 2005 02:30 am, Frank Schafer wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 21:14 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote:
   On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400
  
   Daniel D Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone aware of  a decent comm program for Linux?  Something along
the lines of SecureCRT for Windows?  (SecureCRT is a commercial
program.  There's supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much
prefer to use Open Source.)  I can't seem to find anything but stuff
that was written in the '90s like minicom  or programs that have
limited capabilities.  For example, Komport (KDE's serial comm program)
is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite the fact that it's a GUI
program.  I'm looking for a GUI program with a scrollback buffer,
scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its various flavors,
serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc.  This is the kind
of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would scratch,
but I haven't been able to find anything close.
  
   No gui program I know of.  But Ruby will allow you to do all that.  As it
   supports the tk widget library, among other interfaces, the gui is fairly
   straight forward.
  
   Bob
   -
 
  Hi,
 
  If I nd a GUI program I'm using Putty. Otherwise ssh
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a shell prompt.
 
  I'm pretty sure that the GNOMErs and KDErs have something too.
 
 When I say I need a GUI, I mean I need something with a scroll-back buffer.  
 I'm a Cisco tech and being able to look at back at output that's scrolled off 
 the screen is vital.  A program like, say, Konsole, would be fine.

Hmmm, ... wondering ...

If I call {ssh | telnet} frome an {xterm | eterm | aterm | ...} I have a
scroll back buffer. Mostly I configure these tools to not have a
scrollbar, so I use to use SHIFTPgUP or SHIFTPgDN.

Mostly I use this feature to look back to former output only, so I have
it limited to 2000 lines.

Hope this helps
Frank
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program

2005-08-10 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400
Daniel D Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I can't seem to find anything but stuff that was written in the 
 '90s like minicom  or programs that have limited capabilities.
 ...
 I'm looking for a GUI program with a scrollback buffer, scripting, 
 multi protocol support (ssh in all its various 
 flavors, serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc.
 ...
 This is the kind of technical itch that I would think lots of 
 programmers would scratch, but I haven't been able to find 
 anything close.

Because this isn't the Unix way of doing things. (I think you're a Cisco
tech?!?)

Instead, the approach would be to
- use a console for X11 gui (xterm, rxvt, whatever),
- use a terminal emulator for for terminal emulation (usually included
in the console applications, but I'm more thinking of screen here
because you mentioned scollback buffer and stuff),
- use a serial line comm prog for the serial communication (what's
wrong with minicom?)
- use a SSH shell for SSH connections, Telnet for telnet, etc. pp.
- use a program for skripting ttys for the macros - expect and talk
come to my mind.

Instead of having a huge, hard-to-maintain one-does-it-all-package,
this seems a lot more flexible to me. If you want to save keystrokes -
well, write some scripts and aliases.

-hwh

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program

2005-08-10 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:

 Instead, the approach would be to
 - use a console for X11 gui (xterm, rxvt, whatever),
 - use a terminal emulator for for terminal emulation (usually included
 in the console applications, but I'm more thinking of screen here
 because you mentioned scollback buffer and stuff),
 - use a serial line comm prog for the serial communication (what's
 wrong with minicom?)
 - use a SSH shell for SSH connections, Telnet for telnet, etc. pp.
 - use a program for skripting ttys for the macros - expect and talk
 come to my mind.

And if you want scrollback buffers then try running your
telnet/ssh/minicomm program under screen.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program

2005-08-09 Thread Bob Sanders
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400
Daniel D Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anyone aware of  a decent comm program for Linux?  Something along the 
 lines of SecureCRT for Windows?  (SecureCRT is a commercial program.  There's 
 supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much prefer to use Open 
 Source.)  I can't seem to find anything but stuff that was written in the 
 '90s like minicom  or programs that have limited capabilities.  For example, 
 Komport (KDE's serial comm program) is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite 
 the fact that it's a GUI program.  I'm looking for a GUI program with a 
 scrollback buffer, scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its various 
 flavors, serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc.  This is the 
 kind of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would scratch, 
 but I haven't been able to find anything close.
 

No gui program I know of.  But Ruby will allow you to do all that.  As it 
supports
the tk widget library, among other interfaces, the gui is fairly straight 
forward.

Bob
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