Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 02:09:57PM -0400, German wrote: > Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail? I use mutt with gmail IMAP and the following flags: [ebuild R] mail-client/mutt-1.5.23-r5 USE="berkdb crypt gdbm gpg imap kerberos nls sasl smime smtp ssl -debug -doc -gnutls -idn -mbox -nntp -pop -qdbm (-selinux) -sidebar -slang -tokyocabinet" 0 kB I think the most important ones for gmail are imap, smtp, and ssl. I believe imap and smtp are off by default, at least they were when I first installed mutt, my package use flags are: mail-client/muttsasl gpg imap smime smtp I think kerberos is pulled in for me by a global use flag. gpg and smime are only needed if you want to work with encrypted/signed email. I don't think I needed sasl but left it there in case someday I wanted to play with kerberos auth. Relevant lines from my muttrc are: set smtp_url="smtp://@gmail@smtp.gmail.com:587/" set folder="imaps://imap.gmail.com/" set imap_user="@gmail.com" unset record set postponed="imaps://imap.gmail.com/[Gmail]/Drafts" set spoolfile="=INBOX" set header_cache="$HOME/.mutt/header_cache/gmail" It works reasonably well. My main complaint is that it fairly regularly drops my persistant connection and I need to reconnect. That's most annoying when I just went through 100 emails and deleted many, and it drops the connection before the delete has been synced :(. Other than that it works fine. We recently switched to office365 at work, and it has the same problem with dropped imap connections. I'm not sure if they just both occasionally boot annoying imap users who have hung out too long or if mutt has issues with imap over a possibly flaky remote connection. Good luck...
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
On Sunday 22 Mar 2015 09:37:19 Julian Simioni wrote: > Interesting. When I used IMAP in Mutt, rather than offlineimap, I was > really frustrated by the constant lag within Mutt from syncing with the > server. I experienced the same problem, but this was more pronounced on IMAP accounts with many thousands of email messages (more than 100,000). That said, Kmail2 has the same problem, only on less powerful machines you also get the lag of mysql indexing everything again and again and again. Accounts with fewer messages were quite responsive on both mutt and Kmail2. Therefore I think that this may be an IMAP4 issue? > Offlineimap isn't the fastest ever at syncing either, but at > least it happens all in one go, and then the full contents of all the > emails I care about are on my local machine. I'd love to see your config > to see if I can improve things. > > Julian I never used Offlineimap, but did try tokyocabinet with what felt as a marginal only improvement. PS. Top-posting messes up threaded answers and logical flow of responses ... please refrain from using it on this mailing list. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 02:09:57PM -0400, German wrote > Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail? Depends on how you intend to use it. I run getmail to pull email off Gmail (pop.gmail.com) via ssl on port 995. I.e. I treat Gmail like a regular ISP popmail account. I also use mutt to send email (via ssmtp). I have some ancient archived email in mbox format, so I build it with "gpg mbox pop smime smtp ssl". -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
Interesting. When I used IMAP in Mutt, rather than offlineimap, I was really frustrated by the constant lag within Mutt from syncing with the server. Offlineimap isn't the fastest ever at syncing either, but at least it happens all in one go, and then the full contents of all the emails I care about are on my local machine. I'd love to see your config to see if I can improve things. Julian On 03/21, Lee wrote: >When I have a moment I'll send my Gmail enabled muttrc for u to ponder. >Imap with Gmail on mutt is seamless ime. > >On Mar 21, 2015 3:42 PM, "Julian Simioni" wrote: > > I don't currently use Mutt with Gmail, but one common suggestion is to > use an external program like offlineimap for handling syncing. I > remember hearing that Mutt's IMAP support is not the best. > > The guide I followed to get set up initially is Steve Losh's The Homely > Mutt, it's really quite good. > > http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ > > Julian > > On 03/21, German wrote: > > I am about to emerge Mutt and wanted to ask community what are the > optimal USE flags for novice. I am going to use it with gmail. I am > about to emerge it with the following USE flags: berkdb, crypt, gdbm, > nls, ssl, gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. If anyone feel I > should add or remove something from USE, feel free to tell me. Thanks! > > > > -- > > German > > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:28:37 -0700 Lee wrote: > When I have a moment I'll send my Gmail enabled muttrc for u to ponder. > Imap with Gmail on mutt is seamless ime. Thanks, I'll be waiting for your .muttrc > On Mar 21, 2015 3:42 PM, "Julian Simioni" wrote: > > > I don't currently use Mutt with Gmail, but one common suggestion is to > > use an external program like offlineimap for handling syncing. I > > remember hearing that Mutt's IMAP support is not the best. > > > > The guide I followed to get set up initially is Steve Losh's The Homely > > Mutt, it's really quite good. > > > > http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ > > > > Julian > > > > On 03/21, German wrote: > > > I am about to emerge Mutt and wanted to ask community what are the > > optimal USE flags for novice. I am going to use it with gmail. I am about > > to emerge it with the following USE flags: berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, > > gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. If anyone feel I should add or > > remove something from USE, feel free to tell me. Thanks! > > > > > > -- > > > German > > > > > -- German
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
When I have a moment I'll send my Gmail enabled muttrc for u to ponder. Imap with Gmail on mutt is seamless ime. On Mar 21, 2015 3:42 PM, "Julian Simioni" wrote: > I don't currently use Mutt with Gmail, but one common suggestion is to > use an external program like offlineimap for handling syncing. I > remember hearing that Mutt's IMAP support is not the best. > > The guide I followed to get set up initially is Steve Losh's The Homely > Mutt, it's really quite good. > > http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ > > Julian > > On 03/21, German wrote: > > I am about to emerge Mutt and wanted to ask community what are the > optimal USE flags for novice. I am going to use it with gmail. I am about > to emerge it with the following USE flags: berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, > gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. If anyone feel I should add or > remove something from USE, feel free to tell me. Thanks! > > > > -- > > German > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
I don't currently use Mutt with Gmail, but one common suggestion is to use an external program like offlineimap for handling syncing. I remember hearing that Mutt's IMAP support is not the best. The guide I followed to get set up initially is Steve Losh's The Homely Mutt, it's really quite good. http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ Julian On 03/21, German wrote: > I am about to emerge Mutt and wanted to ask community what are the optimal > USE flags for novice. I am going to use it with gmail. I am about to emerge > it with the following USE flags: berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, gpg, imap, > mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. If anyone feel I should add or remove > something from USE, feel free to tell me. Thanks! > > -- > German > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 19:33:54 +0100 Jean-Christophe Bach wrote: > > > > In my system : > > > > > > root:518 ~> eix ^mutt$ > > > [I] mail-client/mutt > > > Available versions: 1.5.22-r3 1.5.23-r5 ~1.5.23-r6 {berkdb crypt debug > > > doc gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap kerberos mbox nls nntp pop qdbm sasl selinux > > > sidebar slang smime smtp ssl tokyocabinet} > > > Installed versions: 1.5.23-r5([2015-02-28 12:43:41])(crypt gdbm gnutls > > > pop slang smtp ssl -berkdb -debug -doc -gpg -idn -imap -kerberos -mbox > > > -nls -nntp -qdbm -sasl -selinux -sidebar -smime -tokyocabinet) > > > > > > HTH > > > > Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail? > > Hi, > > In the past, I used it with gmail. I did not change any flag with or > without gmail. > > My mutt flags: > > berkdb crypt debug doc gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap mbox nls pop sasl > sidebar smime smtp ssl -kerberos -nntp -qdbm -selinux -slang > -tokyocabinet > > I use Maildir, therefore I think mbox flag is useless. > > JC Ok, thanks, will emerge it with those flags -- German
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
> > In my system : > > > > root:518 ~> eix ^mutt$ > > [I] mail-client/mutt > > Available versions: 1.5.22-r3 1.5.23-r5 ~1.5.23-r6 {berkdb crypt debug > > doc gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap kerberos mbox nls nntp pop qdbm sasl selinux > > sidebar slang smime smtp ssl tokyocabinet} > > Installed versions: 1.5.23-r5([2015-02-28 12:43:41])(crypt gdbm gnutls > > pop slang smtp ssl -berkdb -debug -doc -gpg -idn -imap -kerberos -mbox -nls > > -nntp -qdbm -sasl -selinux -sidebar -smime -tokyocabinet) > > > > HTH > > Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail? Hi, In the past, I used it with gmail. I did not change any flag with or without gmail. My mutt flags: berkdb crypt debug doc gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap mbox nls pop sasl sidebar smime smtp ssl -kerberos -nntp -qdbm -selinux -slang -tokyocabinet I use Maildir, therefore I think mbox flag is useless. JC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:44:22 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: > 150321 German wrote: > > I am about to emerge Mutt : what are the optimal USE flags for a novice ? > > I am going to use it with gmail. > > I've been a happy use of Mutt since c 1998 ; I don't use Gmail. > > > I am about to emerge it with the following USE flags : > > berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. > > In my system : > > root:518 ~> eix ^mutt$ > [I] mail-client/mutt > Available versions: 1.5.22-r3 1.5.23-r5 ~1.5.23-r6 {berkdb crypt debug doc > gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap kerberos mbox nls nntp pop qdbm sasl selinux sidebar > slang smime smtp ssl tokyocabinet} > Installed versions: 1.5.23-r5([2015-02-28 12:43:41])(crypt gdbm gnutls pop > slang smtp ssl -berkdb -debug -doc -gpg -idn -imap -kerberos -mbox -nls -nntp > -qdbm -sasl -selinux -sidebar -smime -tokyocabinet) > > HTH Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail? > > -- > ,, > SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca > > -- German
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
150321 German wrote: > I am about to emerge Mutt : what are the optimal USE flags for a novice ? > I am going to use it with gmail. I've been a happy use of Mutt since c 1998 ; I don't use Gmail. > I am about to emerge it with the following USE flags : > berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. In my system : root:518 ~> eix ^mutt$ [I] mail-client/mutt Available versions: 1.5.22-r3 1.5.23-r5 ~1.5.23-r6 {berkdb crypt debug doc gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap kerberos mbox nls nntp pop qdbm sasl selinux sidebar slang smime smtp ssl tokyocabinet} Installed versions: 1.5.23-r5([2015-02-28 12:43:41])(crypt gdbm gnutls pop slang smtp ssl -berkdb -debug -doc -gpg -idn -imap -kerberos -mbox -nls -nntp -qdbm -sasl -selinux -sidebar -smime -tokyocabinet) HTH -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca