Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Randolph Maaßen
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Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:

 Hi Alex,

 ...shot in the dark:
 Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa www a weißes
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aa aaa a aaa www Awaa aaa aa quattro Aquarellw aaa aa
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connections etcwo
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qaaa wwwas a.
 www www waslittle ones also) for dust. Removeaa wwwaa all
 dust even if it is not completly covered with ait.

 Dona www ot forget the internals of the power supply. Detach all cables.
 Remove the power supply. Go outside ;) and blow the dust inside away.

 Put the power supply back into the PC again an attach the cables.

 Remove all RAM, carefully clean the contacts, insert as less RAM as
 possible.

 Remove even the HD if it is possible to get into the BIOS
 without any HD attached.

 Remove the BIOS battery, wait at least a day and insert it again.

 Start the PC and go directly into the BIOS. Check the date/time.
 If it shows the current date/time, the battery wasn't removed
 long enough. Check the battery voltage. Reinsert the battery.
 If your board has a BIOS reset: Reset the BIOS.

 Then: In the BIOS enter a page which does something
 (reports continously temperatures for example).

 If this is possible, let the PC run for a
 while that BIOS page and see, whether it
 hangs again or not.

 If all went fine, add ONE component and try it again.
 Add the HD at last to sort out hardware from software bugs...

 May be one of the components and not the CPU or motherboard
 causes the problem and you will be able to identify it by
 this procedure...

 HTH!

 GOOD LUCK!

 Best regard,
 mcc

 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org [12-08-17 09:56]:
  Hi there!
 
  Two days ago, my PC suddenly died, after working fine for half a year.
  I used myrtcwake as usual to suspend to RAM, and it woke up in the
  morning. But after two minutes, the screen went blank and nothing, even
  SysRq, gave a reaction. I tried booting a couple of times again, and
  sometimes it did not even reach KDM. Now, I cannot even run Grub (from
  my USB stick) any more, I only see a GRUB string at the top right,
  then nothing happens.
 
  Booting with SystemRescueCD also freezes sometimes. If not, I can make
  it freeze after seconds by running 'memtester'.
 
  Booting good old memtest86 ran for an hour and only found one error,
  then I aborted, removed three of my four memory modules (4GB each), and
  tried different ones in the first bank. Memtest86 again did not find
  much errors, but froze once. Running memtester after booting from
  SystemrescueCD again makes the thing freeze in seconds. It once also
  froze while being in the BIOs setup.
 
  What could be the problem? CPU, board, or even the PSU? I do not think
  it has to do with bad memory. I removed most of the other stuff (hard
  drives, PCI cards). I have no similar hardware so I cannot simply
  exchange things, the question is what to buy and try. How would you
  proceed?
 
  The fan is still working, the cooler does not become hot, and in the
  BIOS there are not high temperatures begin reported. But one thing was
  strange: I updated Calligra from 2.4 to 2.5 (I think), and it took
  ages, at least 8 hours. I thought there may b something strange with
  the build process of this new version, forcing MAKEOPTS=-j1 and such,
  but still this is very long. But when working with it, I did not notice
  anything strange like sluggish reactions, and videos played fine. But I
  did not use it as much as I normally do, and maybe even when overheated
  and throttled down it would have been fast enough for me to not notice
  this. I watch the syslog normally, but maybe I just did not look
  closely that day, I was busy doing other stuff.
 
  CPUs don't just die, do they? Even when overheating, I think these days
  throttle down, so no permanent harm should be done? So maybe it's the
  board? It looks okay, no bent or leaking capacitors.
 
  This is really annoying. Of course most of my passwords are in my KDE
  wallet I cannot access. There's also Wiki, CVS and Git repositories,
  not needed every day, but still important. And the timinig is very bad,
  I just started my new job the day the problem happened, and I do not
  have much time for this now. Before, I was working at home, so I would
  have had all day to diagnose and try things.
 
  It's an AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core CPU, and an ASRock 880GMH/U3S3 board.
 
Wonko
 



Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:

 Hi Alex,

 ...shot in the dark:
 Remove as much as possible of the cards, addons, connections etc
 from the PC ... make in as much bare bone as possible.

 Check All coolers (the little ones also) for dust. Remove all
 dust even if it is not completly covered with it.

 Dont forget the internals of the power supply. Detach 

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster

Randolph Maaßen writes:


Aaa aAaa aaa a
Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de
mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de:
 
  Hi Alex,
 
  ...shot in the dark:
  Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa www a
weißes www aa Array www www www a aaa aa aadwqqqaaa aaa w
aadwqqqaaa www aa aaa a aaa www Awaa aaa aa quattro
Aquarellw aaa aa aa Webauftritt aaa a aaa aA aaa
aAaAaAaq aaawa addons, connections etcwo
  from the PC ... make ian as much bare bone aaa stwww wwwaaa www
qaaa wwwas a.
  www www waslittle ones also) for dust. Removeaa wwwaa all
  dust even if it is not completly covered with ait.


Woow! What is going on here?

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2012/8/17 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org

 Randolph Maaßen writes:

  Aaa aAaa aaa a
 Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de
 mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de:

  
   Hi Alex,
  
   ...shot in the dark:
   Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa www a
 weißes www aa Array www www www a aaa aa aadwqqqaaa aaa w
 aadwqqqaaa www aa aaa a aaa www Awaa aaa aa quattro
 Aquarellw aaa aa aa Webauftritt aaa a aaa aA aaa
 aAaAaAaq aaawa addons, connections etcwo
   from the PC ... make ian as much bare bone aaa stwww wwwaaa www
 qaaa wwwas a.
   www www waslittle ones also) for dust. Removeaa wwwaa all
   dust even if it is not completly covered with ait.


 Woow! What is going on here?

 Wonko


Damn!!
Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

Randolph Maaßen


Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Dale
Randolph Maaßen wrote:


 2012/8/17 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org mailto:wo...@wonkology.org

 Randolph Maaßen writes:

 Aaa aAaa aaa a
 Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de
 mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de
 mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de:

  
   Hi Alex,
  
   ...shot in the dark:
   Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa
 www a
 weißes www aa Array www www www a aaa aa aadwqqqaaa aaa w
 aadwqqqaaa www aa aaa a aaa www Awaa aaa aa
 quattro
 Aquarellw aaa aa aa Webauftritt aaa a aaa aA aaa
 aAaAaAaq aaawa addons, connections etcwo
   from the PC ... make ian as much bare bone aaa stwww
 wwwaaa www
 qaaa wwwas a.
   www www waslittle ones also) for dust. Removeaa wwwaa all
   dust even if it is not completly covered with ait.


 Woow! What is going on here?

 Wonko


 Damn!!
 Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket.

 -- 
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
  
 Randolph Maaßen



Is your butt sending emails?  I thought they had a different way of
communicating.  LOL 

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!



Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Matthias Hanft

Randolph Maaßen wrote:


Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket.


I assumed your cat walking over the keyboard ;)

-Matt





Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster

Randolph Maaßen writes:


2012/8/17 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org mailto:wo...@wonkology.org



Woow! What is going on here?



Damn!!
Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket.


I'm happy for every reply, and this was a very special one :)


--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
Randolph Maaßen


The signature seems to be separated correctly by --  instead of --, 
yet my Thunderbird does not recognize it as such. Maybe it has a problem 
with quoted-printable format?


Wonko