Re: [gentoo-user] My laptop is freaking me out.

2005-07-10 Thread Richard Fish
Ian K wrote:

Hi there.
My new laptop (Toshiba A70) is seriously weirding me out.
It seems to be turning off (randomly?) while in KDE. I cannot
distinguish any patterns uptime-wise, nor is it an actual power
failure. (Nothing else dies, battery prescence is confirmed with
hardware lighting, and this lighting indicates a full charge.
I also see no real connections between what I am doing when
the computer turns off. Once, I was browsing the web in Firefox,
and tonight, I was playing around with the XScreensaver settings.
I have noticed, that it seems to only happen while in KDE, although
Im not 100% sure. Also, I have the KDE laptop battery monitor set
to do *nothing* if the battery should reach a warning or critical
power value. This has happened to be about 6 times over the last
few days. I also just got KDE emerged, so I can say its been happening
probably since it has been up. I have left it on for extended amounts
of time in the regular CLI though, without any problems.
I can't really think of anything else to say, but I should mention that
it **seems** to do a safe shutdown, but Im not sure. The power is
cut rather instantly, and I am not swished off into a system reboot
message. When I start it up again, ReiserFS claims the file system is
clean, and goes on to replay the journal as usual. Do any of
you have any thoughts on this? Thanks a lot!
Ian
  


Are you getting anything in /var/log/messages?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] My laptop is freaking me out.

2005-07-10 Thread Phillip Stewart
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:50, Ian K wrote:
 Hi there.
 My new laptop (Toshiba A70) is seriously weirding me out.
 It seems to be turning off (randomly?) while in KDE. 

Could it be simply that the processor is overheating and shutting down 
to protect itself?

My Dell laptop used to do the same thing 6 months after I bought it.  I 
took a can of compressed air to the vents and a pile of dust shot out.  
Now it works fine!

Maybe install a CPU monitoring tool (e.g. gkrellm2) and keep an eye on 
the temperature?

Cheers,
Phillip



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Re: [gentoo-user] My laptop is freaking me out.

2005-07-10 Thread ghayes
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:41:01 +1200
Phillip Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:50, Ian K wrote:
  Hi there.
  My new laptop (Toshiba A70) is seriously weirding me out.
  It seems to be turning off (randomly?) while in KDE. 
 
 Could it be simply that the processor is overheating and shutting down

 to protect itself?
 
 My Dell laptop used to do the same thing 6 months after I bought it. 
I 
 took a can of compressed air to the vents and a pile of dust shot out.
 
 Now it works fine!
 
 Maybe install a CPU monitoring tool (e.g. gkrellm2) and keep an eye on

 the temperature?
 
 Cheers,
 Phillip

I have a A75.
It's a known problem with A70 and A75 laptops. I blow mine out weekly
and I keep the rear elevated to increase airflow. It does it mostly when
compiling. I've been known to put it in front of the ac when running
emerge -uavD world. Haven't tried the fridge, yet.

There is also a static issue with some A70 and A75 laptops.
Unfortunately, your symptoms sound like it. 
I'd go to toshiba support and check it out if you are still under
warranty. A lot of people have had this problem.
By touching the speaker covers you can lock up your machine.
After this happens a few times, you get symptoms like you've described.
They replace the cover of your laptop and sometimes the motherboard. 
Long thread about it:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=39467

The toshiba link was to long to paste but here is the gist

Applicable Models:
Satellite A75-S206, A75-S2061, A75-S226, A75-S276, A75-S2761, A75-S2762,
A70-S256, A70-S2561, A70-S249, A70-S2491, A70-S259, A70-S2591, A75-S209,
A75-S2091, A75-S229, A75-S2291, A75-S2292, A70-S2492ST, M35X-S149,
M35X-S1491, M35X-S109, M35X-S309, M35X-S3091, M35X-S329, M35X-S3291,
M35X-S349, M35X-S3491, M30X-S1592ST, M30X-S1593ST, M35X-S1492, A75-S211,
A75-S2111, A75-S231, A75-S2311, A75-S2293, M35X-S111, M35X-S161,
M35X-S1611, M35X-S311

On some Satellite A70/A75 and M30X/M35X models, the computer may lock up
(hang) or restart, immediately after the computer is touched.

If you experience these symptoms, please have your system tested by the
Toshiba Notebook Depot, or a Toshiba Authorized Service Provider (ASP). 
There will be no charge for the testing or for any repairs.

For further information about how to arrange for shipment to and service
at the Toshiba Notebook Depot or a Toshiba ASP in your area please call
1-800-457-.  

I'd return it if you can. Even if you get the static issue sorted out,
it'll always run hot. If you don't believe me, google it.

Good Luck
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Re: [gentoo-user] My laptop is freaking me out.

2005-07-10 Thread Ian K
ghayes wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:41:01 +1200
Phillip Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:50, Ian K wrote:


Hi there.
My new laptop (Toshiba A70) is seriously weirding me out.
It seems to be turning off (randomly?) while in KDE. 
  

Could it be simply that the processor is overheating and shutting down



  

to protect itself?

My Dell laptop used to do the same thing 6 months after I bought it. 


I 
  

took a can of compressed air to the vents and a pile of dust shot out.


 
  

Now it works fine!

Maybe install a CPU monitoring tool (e.g. gkrellm2) and keep an eye on



  

the temperature?

Cheers,
Phillip



I have a A75.
It's a known problem with A70 and A75 laptops. I blow mine out weekly
and I keep the rear elevated to increase airflow. It does it mostly when
compiling. I've been known to put it in front of the ac when running
emerge -uavD world. Haven't tried the fridge, yet.

There is also a static issue with some A70 and A75 laptops.
Unfortunately, your symptoms sound like it. 
I'd go to toshiba support and check it out if you are still under
warranty. A lot of people have had this problem.
By touching the speaker covers you can lock up your machine.
After this happens a few times, you get symptoms like you've described.
They replace the cover of your laptop and sometimes the motherboard. 
Long thread about it:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=39467

The toshiba link was to long to paste but here is the gist

Applicable Models:
Satellite A75-S206, A75-S2061, A75-S226, A75-S276, A75-S2761, A75-S2762,
A70-S256, A70-S2561, A70-S249, A70-S2491, A70-S259, A70-S2591, A75-S209,
A75-S2091, A75-S229, A75-S2291, A75-S2292, A70-S2492ST, M35X-S149,
M35X-S1491, M35X-S109, M35X-S309, M35X-S3091, M35X-S329, M35X-S3291,
M35X-S349, M35X-S3491, M30X-S1592ST, M30X-S1593ST, M35X-S1492, A75-S211,
A75-S2111, A75-S231, A75-S2311, A75-S2293, M35X-S111, M35X-S161,
M35X-S1611, M35X-S311

On some Satellite A70/A75 and M30X/M35X models, the computer may lock up
(hang) or restart, immediately after the computer is touched.

If you experience these symptoms, please have your system tested by the
Toshiba Notebook Depot, or a Toshiba Authorized Service Provider (ASP). 
There will be no charge for the testing or for any repairs.

For further information about how to arrange for shipment to and service
at the Toshiba Notebook Depot or a Toshiba ASP in your area please call
1-800-457-.  

I'd return it if you can. Even if you get the static issue sorted out,
it'll always run hot. If you don't believe me, google it.

Good Luck
  

What about in Canada? Did you spot any warranty info like that
for my corner of the world? :)

About monitoring the temperature, can an A70 do that? How would
I set that up? GKrellm gives me the standard info, but I dont know how
to get temperature monitoring info showing.
Thanks!!
Ian
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Re: [gentoo-user] My laptop is freaking me out.

2005-07-10 Thread Phillip Stewart
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:23, Ian K wrote:
 About monitoring the temperature, can an A70 do that? How would
 I set that up? GKrellm gives me the standard info, but I dont know
 how to get temperature monitoring info showing.

Hmm.  AFAIK, a Pentium 4 processor should have that capability.

My gkrellm2 has a checkbox to display the temperature under 
Configuration  Builtins  Sensors  Setup  Temperatures.

Otherwise, you can manually get a reading by doing:
# cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature

If that doesn't work, you might need to check that ACPI is enabled in 
your kernel (particularly the Thermal zone option).  This link might 
help: 

http://www.computx.us/gentoo-A70.html

Cheers,
Phillip
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