Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-25 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/24/06, Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 24 July 2006 19:39, Richard Fish wrote:
 # strace -f ifconfig -a


Ok, thanks.

I've looked through the sources for ifconfig (net-tools-1.60), and
based on the strace output you provided, I don't see how it can be
getting to the No usable address families found message.That the
socket() calls work should be sufficient to bypass this branch in the
code.  Unless the ifconfig binary is corrupted

I suggest posting the outputs of:

1. emerge -pv net-tools
2. emerge --info
3. cat /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/net-tools-*/CFLAGS

I also would try rebuilding net-tools: emerge --oneshot net-tools.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-25 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Tuesday 25 July 2006 11:37, Richard Fish wrote:
man, you are awesome thank you very much. i've re-emerged net-tools and 
all is perfect nowthank you again!!!
 Ok, thanks.

 I've looked through the sources for ifconfig (net-tools-1.60), and
 based on the strace output you provided, I don't see how it can be
 getting to the No usable address families found message.That the
 socket() calls work should be sufficient to bypass this branch in the
 code.  Unless the ifconfig binary is corrupted

 I suggest posting the outputs of:

 1. emerge -pv net-tools
 2. emerge --info
 3. cat /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/net-tools-*/CFLAGS

 I also would try rebuilding net-tools: emerge --oneshot net-tools.

 -Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/23/06, Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

# ifconfig -a
No usable address families found.
socket: No such file or directory


Hmm, not good.

What is the output of:

1. cat /proc/net/protocols
2. cat /proc/net/dev
3. ls -lA /proc/net

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-24 Thread adrian790
Quoting Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
varky adrian # cat /proc/net/protocols
protocol  size sockets  memory press maxhdr  slab module cl co di ac io in
de sh ss gs se re sp bi br ha uh gp em
PACKET 340 -1  -1   NI   0   no   kernel  n  n  n  n  n  n 
n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n
UNIX   344 -1  -1   NI   0   yes  kernel  n  n  n  n  n  n 
n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n
RAW436 -1  -1   NI   0   yes  kernel  y  y  y  n  y  y 
n  n  y  y  y  y  n  y  y  y  y  n  n
UDP444 -1  -1   NI   0   yes  kernel  y  y  y  n  y  n 
y  n  y  y  y  y  y  n  y  y  y  y  n
TCP   1020 40  20   no 208   yes  kernel  y  y  y  y  y  y 
y  y  y  y  y  y  n  n  y  y  y  y  y
NETLINK344 -1  -1   NI   0   no   kernel  n  n  n  n  n  n 
n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n  n





varky adrian # cat /proc/net/dev
Inter-|   Receive|  Transmit
 face |bytespackets errs drop fifo frame compressed multicast|bytes   
packets errs drop fifo colls carrier compressed
  eth0:   0   0000 0  0 00 
 0000 0   0  0
  eth1:308895246  431390000 0  0 0 85199938 
310923000 0   0  0
lo: 552   9000 0  0 0  552 
 9000 0   0  0
 tunl0:   0   0000 0  0 00 
 0000 0   0  0
  gre0:   0   0000 0  0 00 
 0000 0   0  0


___


varky adrian # ls -lA /proc/net
total 0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 arp
-r--r- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 arp_tables_matches
-r--r- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 arp_tables_names
-r--r- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 arp_tables_targets
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 dev
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 dev_mcast
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 igmp
-r--r- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ip_conntrack
-r--r- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ip_conntrack_expect
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ip_mr_cache
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ip_mr_vif
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ip_queue
-r--r- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ip_tables_matches
-r--r- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ip_tables_names
-r--r- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ip_tables_targets
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ipt_CLUSTERIP
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ipt_hashlimit
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 ipt_recent
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 mcfilter
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 netfilter
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 netlink
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 netstat
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 packet
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 pnp
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 protocols
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 psched
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 raw
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 route
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 rt_acct
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 rt_cache
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 snmp
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 sockstat
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 softnet_stat
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 stat
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 tcp
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 udp
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 24 11:35 unix

 On 7/23/06, Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  # ifconfig -a
  No usable address families found.
  socket: No such file or directory
 
 Hmm, not good.
 
 What is the output of:
 
 1. cat /proc/net/protocols
 2. cat /proc/net/dev
 3. ls -lA /proc/net
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
varky adrian # cat /proc/net/protocols


Well everything in kernel-land looks ok to me.  Can you send the output of:

strace -f ifconfig -a

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-24 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Monday 24 July 2006 19:39, Richard Fish wrote:
 # strace -f ifconfig -a
execve(/sbin/ifconfig, [ifconfig, -a], [/* 61 vars */]) = 0
uname({sys=Linux, node=varky, ...}) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x8057000
access(/etc/ld.so.preload, R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=90931, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 90931, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7f8f000
close(3)= 0
open(/lib/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\20\200..., 512) = 
512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1209816, ...}) = 0
mmap2(0x49cc3000, 1146076, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 
0) = 0x49cc3000
madvise(0x49cc3000, 1146076, MADV_SEQUENTIAL|0x1) = 0
mmap2(0x49dd5000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|
MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x112) = 0x49dd5000
mmap2(0x49dd9000, 7388, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|
MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x49dd9000
close(3)= 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0xb7f8e000
mprotect(0x49dd5000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
mprotect(0x494a2000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 - 6, base_addr:0xb7f8ea90, limit:1048575, 
seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, 
seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0
munmap(0xb7f8f000, 90931)   = 0
open(/dev/urandom, O_RDONLY)  = 3
read(3, \366\370\264\224, 4)  = 4
close(3)= 0
brk(0)  = 0x8057000
brk(0x8078000)  = 0x8078000
uname({sys=Linux, node=varky, ...}) = 0
access(/proc/net, R_OK)   = 0
access(/proc/net/unix, R_OK)  = 0
socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_DGRAM, 0)  = 3
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 4
access(/proc/net/if_inet6, R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
access(/proc/net/ax25, R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
access(/proc/net/rose, R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
access(/proc/net/ipx, R_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
access(/proc/net/appletalk, R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
access(/proc/sys/net/econet, R_OK)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
access(/proc/sys/net/ash, R_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
access(/proc/net/x25, R_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
write(2, No usable address families found..., 34No usable address families 
found.
) = 34
write(2, socket: No such file or director..., 34socket: No such file or 
directory
) = 34
exit_group(1)   = ?
Process 11166 detached


 Well everything in kernel-land looks ok to me.  Can you send the output of:

 strace -f ifconfig -a

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:13:47 +0300
Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had the bad surprise the see the next error when my system boots,
 and is about starting the netowrk services:
 
 Starting eth0
 No usable addresses families found
 socket: no such file or directory
 *eth0 does not exist
 
 the same thing is happening for eth1. for eth0 i use dhcp and for
 eth1 i use static addresses.
 
 Could someone give me an advice?
Hi,
First run etc-update or dispatch-conf to see if there're any conf
files to update.
Next check /etc/conf.d/net file which may have been overwritten by some
update. Edit it and make the necessary configurations again.
Check ethX existance manually - #ifconfig.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Sunday 23 July 2006 09:55, Rumen Yotov wrote:

 Hi,
 First run etc-update or dispatch-conf to see if there're any conf
 files to update.
 Next check /etc/conf.d/net file which may have been overwritten by some
 update. Edit it and make the necessary configurations again.
 Check ethX existance manually - #ifconfig.
 HTH.Rumen

i've been running etc-update and dispatch-conf and there is no file for 
update. /etc/conf.d/net shows the next lines:

# This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
# scripts in /etc/init.d.  To create a more complete configuration,
# please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
# in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).
config_eth0=( dhcp )
#dhcp_eth0=nodns nontp nonis
config_eth1=( 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 10.0.0.255 )

and for ifconfig:

# ifconfig -a
No usable address families found.
socket: No such file or directory



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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:49 +0300
Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 # ifconfig -a
 No usable address families found.
 socket: No such file or directory

You seem to have no IP protocol support compiled into your kernel. Or
is there a module reg. IP support that you need to modprobe first?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Sunday 23 July 2006 15:01, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:49 +0300

 Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  # ifconfig -a
  No usable address families found.
  socket: No such file or directory

 You seem to have no IP protocol support compiled into your kernel. Or
 is there a module reg. IP support that you need to modprobe first?

 -hwh
but i have compiled tcp/ip in kernel. and i said that, when i run dhcpcd eth0 
i have internet connection. but i can't run the init script for network.
 # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
 * Starting eth0
No usable address families found.
socket: No such file or directory
No usable address families found.
socket: No such file or directory
 *   Bringing up eth0
 * dhcp
No usable address families found.
socket: No such file or directory

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Sunday 23 July 2006 15:01, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:49 +0300

 Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  # ifconfig -a
  No usable address families found.
  socket: No such file or directory

 You seem to have no IP protocol support compiled into your kernel. Or
 is there a module reg. IP support that you need to modprobe first?

 -hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Sunday 23 July 2006 15:01, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:49 +0300

 Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  # ifconfig -a
  No usable address families found.
  socket: No such file or directory

 You seem to have no IP protocol support compiled into your kernel. Or
 is there a module reg. IP support that you need to modprobe first?

 -hwh
and there is no need for modprobe because most of the drivers are built-in. 
the kernel worked till yesterday very fine. actually, i have three different 
kernel and i have the same problem. 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Zinn, Stefan

Can you find any hints in the messages about this issue? 

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Vraciu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:16 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

On Sunday 23 July 2006 15:01, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:49 +0300

 Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  # ifconfig -a
  No usable address families found.
  socket: No such file or directory

 You seem to have no IP protocol support compiled into your kernel. Or 
 is there a module reg. IP support that you need to modprobe first?

 -hwh
and there is no need for modprobe because most of the drivers are
built-in. 
the kernel worked till yesterday very fine. actually, i have three
different kernel and i have the same problem. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Sunday 23 July 2006 17:41, Zinn, Stefan wrote:
did you saw some interesting hints? i can't find one, right now i'm very 
frustrated about this issue.

 Can you find any hints in the messages about this issue?

 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Vraciu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:16 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

 On Sunday 23 July 2006 15:01, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:49 +0300
 
  Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   # ifconfig -a
   No usable address families found.
   socket: No such file or directory
 
  You seem to have no IP protocol support compiled into your kernel. Or
  is there a module reg. IP support that you need to modprobe first?
 
  -hwh

 and there is no need for modprobe because most of the drivers are
 built-in.
 the kernel worked till yesterday very fine. actually, i have three
 different kernel and i have the same problem.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Randy Barlow
Adrian Vraciu wrote:
 On Sunday 23 July 2006 17:41, Zinn, Stefan wrote:
 did you saw some interesting hints? i can't find one, right now i'm very 
 frustrated about this issue.

I think he meant to check /var/log/messages - anything interesting in there?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Sunday 23 July 2006 19:19, Randy Barlow wrote:
nothing interesting there :(
 Adrian Vraciu wrote:
  On Sunday 23 July 2006 17:41, Zinn, Stefan wrote:
  did you saw some interesting hints? i can't find one, right now i'm very
  frustrated about this issue.

 I think he meant to check /var/log/messages - anything interesting in
 there?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Rumen Yotov
Adrian Vraciu wrote:
 On Sunday 23 July 2006 15:01, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:49 +0300

 Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 # ifconfig -a
 No usable address families found.
 socket: No such file or directory
 You seem to have no IP protocol support compiled into your kernel. Or
 is there a module reg. IP support that you need to modprobe first?

 -hwh
 could be something related to sysctl?
Hi,
Check the links in /etc/runlevels/{boot,default,nonetwork,single}
In all of them you have a link to a file under /etc/init.d/* according
to runlevel configuration. Some or all of the links might point to a
nonexistent files (e.g. /tmp/stage1/etc/init.d/consolefont).
There's also a Bug about this in Bugzilla, fix the links manually or
find a script (Bug-?) which will do this for you.
HTH.Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Sunday 23 July 2006 19:42, Rumen Yotov wrote:
the init scripts are ok. but there is no eth0 and eth1, although wehn i run 
dhcpcd eth0 i can make my internet connection to work fine.ifconfig says 
clearly that i don't have any eth0 and eth1. where the hell are eth0 and 
eth1? and how can i remake them?
 Adrian Vraciu wrote:
  On Sunday 23 July 2006 15:01, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:49 +0300
 
  Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  # ifconfig -a
  No usable address families found.
  socket: No such file or directory
 
  You seem to have no IP protocol support compiled into your kernel. Or
  is there a module reg. IP support that you need to modprobe first?
 
  -hwh
 
  could be something related to sysctl?

 Hi,
 Check the links in /etc/runlevels/{boot,default,nonetwork,single}
 In all of them you have a link to a file under /etc/init.d/* according
 to runlevel configuration. Some or all of the links might point to a
 nonexistent files (e.g. /tmp/stage1/etc/init.d/consolefont).
 There's also a Bug about this in Bugzilla, fix the links manually or
 find a script (Bug-?) which will do this for you.
 HTH.Rumen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Nick Rout
what does 

ls -l /etc/init.d/net*

tell you?


On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:28:37 +0300
Adrian Vraciu wrote:

 On Sunday 23 July 2006 19:19, Randy Barlow wrote:
 nothing interesting there :(
  Adrian Vraciu wrote:
   On Sunday 23 July 2006 17:41, Zinn, Stefan wrote:
   did you saw some interesting hints? i can't find one, right now i'm very
   frustrated about this issue.
 
  I think he meant to check /var/log/messages - anything interesting in
  there?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting

2006-07-23 Thread Adrian Vraciu
On Monday 24 July 2006 06:38, Nick Rout wrote:
 $ ls -l /etc/init.d/net*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jul 23 20:27 /etc/init.d/net.eth0 - net.lo
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root18 Jul 23 
17:47 /etc/init.d/net.eth1 - /etc/init.d/net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24324 Jul 23 20:27 /etc/init.d/net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  3046 Jul 23 20:27 /etc/init.d/netmount

 what does

 ls -l /etc/init.d/net*

 tell you?


 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:28:37 +0300

 Adrian Vraciu wrote:
  On Sunday 23 July 2006 19:19, Randy Barlow wrote:
  nothing interesting there :(
 
   Adrian Vraciu wrote:
On Sunday 23 July 2006 17:41, Zinn, Stefan wrote:
did you saw some interesting hints? i can't find one, right now i'm
very frustrated about this issue.
  
   I think he meant to check /var/log/messages - anything interesting in
   there?
  
   R
 
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