Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On 2011-09-14 22:23, Michael Mol wrote: like get hidden by '-Show quoted text-'. Hit reply, hit ctrl-End to get to the bottom, reply...and not realize that you jumped past five kilobytes' worth of stale, quoted conversation. Ouch! That (almost) physically hurt! ;-) Best regards Peter K, longing for Pine (but too busy lazy to configure fetchmail right now) It seams that the discussion degenerated on how to send emails... Can anyone please help regarding my problem? It seems that indeed I have an old kernel version, but how is that possible taking into consideration that I have used genkernel? How can I upgrade it?
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Sep 15, 2011 2:32 PM, Trifu Catalin Florin sviatov...@yahoo.com wrote: It seams that the discussion degenerated on how to send emails... Can anyone please help regarding my problem? It seems that indeed I have an old kernel version, but how is that possible taking into consideration that I have used genkernel? How can I upgrade it? First, make sure you have emerged the kernel's sources. Second, check that the newer sources have been selected: 'eselect kernel list' followed by 'eselect kernel set'. Build the kernel, either using genkernel or make triumvirate (make menuconfig make make modules_install) Install the new kernel in /boot. Reboot. Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: It seams that the discussion degenerated on how to send emails... Can anyone please help regarding my problem? It seems that indeed I have an old kernel version, but how is that possible taking into consideration that I have used genkernel? How can I upgrade it? I would try emerging it with -j1 option. I googled for similar errors and that was the fix. It may not work but worth a try. Sometimes when it does parallel builds, it sort of gets ahead if itself and starts looking for things that should be there but isn't built quite yet. Sort of sounds like my mouth sometimes. Mouth is engaged but brain is in park. lol Hoe that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Thursday, 15. September 2011 00:27:43 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: On 2011-09-14 22:23, Michael Mol wrote: like get hidden by '-Show quoted text-'. Hit reply, hit ctrl-End to get to the bottom, reply...and not realize that you jumped past five kilobytes' worth of stale, quoted conversation. Ouch! That (almost) physically hurt! ;-) Best regards Peter K, longing for Pine (but too busy lazy to configure fetchmail right now) It seams that the discussion degenerated on how to send emails... Can anyone please help regarding my problem? It seems that indeed I have an old kernel version, but how is that possible taking into consideration that I have used genkernel? How can I upgrade it? You did not reboot. genkernel maybe built a new kernel and installed it into /boot, but to make use of the newly built kernel, you have to reboot. If you think, that rebooting is not suitable right now, I offered two alternative (possible) solutions to your compile problems. 1) disable sandbox temporarily 2) use busybox's touch instead googling now... a here's a reference: http://foxpa.ws/2011/04/12/portage-errors-touch-no-such-file-or-directory/ I was wrong. You don't need a kernel 2.6.22, you need a kernel = 2.6.22 :) Best, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
First, make sure you have emerged the kernel's sources. Second, check that the newer sources have been selected: 'eselect kernel list' followed by 'eselect kernel set'. Build the kernel, either using genkernel or make triumvirate (make menuconfig make make modules_install) Install the new kernel in /boot. Reboot. Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. Rgds, --- :((( :((( Is it possible to compile the kernel without emerging kernel's sources? I have made an installation one week ago on a virtual machine and it worked fine. The kernel on that virtual machine is 2.6.39-gentoo-r3. How is it possible to use the same manual, same mirrors, same steps and still to have a different kernel version? How is it possible not to work? If I use genkernel is because I DON'T KNOW how to compile the kernel manually. This being said, sentences like: Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. are the Gordian knot for me. I'm very frustrated because on gentoo's forum no one didn't answer for three days now, and on this mailing list we have changed 4-5 emails regarding how an email should be written. Meanwhile, my server is still offline. Now, in another order of ideas: - I have searched the internet for 2-3 days before sending an email here - I didn't read the standard of how to send an email and I'm sorry for that but I didn't had time - I wrote the emails using the format that seemed more natural for me, the newest on top having the track of emails bellow, so that anyone who sees the email can understand what's this all about, including myself; I had to search for a half an our in my emails to find the first email on another topic... - I do not now how you format your emails to look the way they look, having that sentence on top with x wrote on... and before each line of the text you keep for reply; this is why I have used standard reply from yahoo, because I didn't wanted to reinvent the wheel - I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR EACH USER ON THIS EMAIL LIST BUT I NEED URGENT HELP ON THE TOPIC: I CANNOT INSTALL GENTOOO - I AM NOT AN EXPERIENCED USER WHO CAN CREATE HIS OWN KERNEL, RE-WRITE DRIVERS AND SO ON; PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF YOU ANSWER HAVE PATIENCE Thank you in advance!
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:16:12 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: First, make sure you have emerged the kernel's sources. Second, check that the newer sources have been selected: 'eselect kernel list' followed by 'eselect kernel set'. Build the kernel, either using genkernel or make triumvirate (make menuconfig make make modules_install) Install the new kernel in /boot. Reboot. Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. Rgds, --- :((( :((( Is it possible to compile the kernel without emerging kernel's sources? No. I have made an installation one week ago on a virtual machine and it worked fine. The kernel on that virtual machine is 2.6.39-gentoo-r3. How is it possible to use the same manual, same mirrors, same steps and still to have a different kernel version? How is it possible not to work? You did not reboot. If I use genkernel is because I DON'T KNOW how to compile the kernel manually. This being said, sentences like: Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. are the Gordian knot for me. No problem. Just use genkernel, if you like. It works for many of us without problems. But you have to reboot. No matter how you build your kernel. I'm very frustrated because on gentoo's forum no one didn't answer for three days now, and on this mailing list we have changed 4-5 emails regarding how an email should be written. If you want help, you need to know, how to ask questions in a correct way - if your mails are unreadable, nobody will read them and you will get no answers. Meanwhile, my server is still offline. Why don't you follow my advices? Have you tried only one of the options I offered? You know, I am an experienced user, I don't tell you shit. Now, in another order of ideas: - I have searched the internet for 2-3 days before sending an email here Here's a tip. If you see an error, you cannot decipher, put it into google with quotes and gentoo, in your case: touch: setting times of gentoo The second hit, I get here, describes your problem. - I didn't read the standard of how to send an email and I'm sorry for that but I didn't had time - I wrote the emails using the format that seemed more natural for me, the newest on top having the track of emails bellow, so that anyone who sees the email can understand what's this all about, including myself; I had to search for a half an our in my emails to find the first email on another topic... - I do not now how you format your emails to look the way they look, having that sentence on top with x wrote on... and before each line of the text you keep for reply; this is why I have used standard reply from yahoo, because I didn't wanted to reinvent the wheel I hit reply in my mail-client (kmail). That's all I have to do. Is yahoo's reply really so broken? Hmmm. - I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR EACH USER ON THIS EMAIL LIST BUT I NEED URGENT HELP ON THE TOPIC: I CANNOT INSTALL GENTOOO - I AM NOT AN EXPERIENCED USER WHO CAN CREATE HIS OWN KERNEL, RE-WRITE DRIVERS AND SO ON; PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF YOU ANSWER HAVE PATIENCE Shouting at people, that try to help, is a bad idea in my book. Thank you in advance! Best, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:16:12 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: First, make sure you have emerged the kernel's sources. Second, check that the newer sources have been selected: 'eselect kernel list' followed by 'eselect kernel set'. Build the kernel, either using genkernel or make triumvirate (make menuconfig make make modules_install) Install the new kernel in /boot. Reboot. Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. Rgds, --- :((( :((( Is it possible to compile the kernel without emerging kernel's sources? No. I have made an installation one week ago on a virtual machine and it worked fine. The kernel on that virtual machine is 2.6.39-gentoo-r3. How is it possible to use the same manual, same mirrors, same steps and still to have a different kernel version? How is it possible not to work? You did not reboot. If I use genkernel is because I DON'T KNOW how to compile the kernel manually. This being said, sentences like: Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. are the Gordian knot for me. No problem. Just use genkernel, if you like. It works for many of us without problems. But you have to reboot. No matter how you build your kernel. I'm very frustrated because on gentoo's forum no one didn't answer for three days now, and on this mailing list we have changed 4-5 emails regarding how an email should be written. If you want help, you need to know, how to ask questions in a correct way - if your mails are unreadable, nobody will read them and you will get no answers. Meanwhile, my server is still offline. Why don't you follow my advices? Have you tried only one of the options I offered? You know, I am an experienced user, I don't tell you shit. Now, in another order of ideas: - I have searched the internet for 2-3 days before sending an email here Here's a tip. If you see an error, you cannot decipher, put it into google with quotes and gentoo, in your case: touch: setting times of gentoo The second hit, I get here, describes your problem. - I didn't read the standard of how to send an email and I'm sorry for that but I didn't had time - I wrote the emails using the format that seemed more natural for me, the newest on top having the track of emails bellow, so that anyone who sees the email can understand what's this all about, including myself; I had to search for a half an our in my emails to find the first email on another topic... - I do not now how you format your emails to look the way they look, having that sentence on top with x wrote on... and before each line of the text you keep for reply; this is why I have used standard reply from yahoo, because I didn't wanted to reinvent the wheel I hit reply in my mail-client (kmail). That's all I have to do. Is yahoo's reply really so broken? Hmmm. - I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR EACH USER ON THIS EMAIL LIST BUT I NEED URGENT HELP ON THE TOPIC: I CANNOT INSTALL GENTOOO - I AM NOT AN EXPERIENCED USER WHO CAN CREATE HIS OWN KERNEL, RE-WRITE DRIVERS AND SO ON; PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF YOU ANSWER HAVE PATIENCE Shouting at people, that try to help, is a bad idea in my book. Thank you in advance! Best, Michael Dear Michael Thank you for your help! I didn't reboot my machine as the installation is not complete yet. How can I reboot when the installation isn't finish, if things that should work don't work in the first place? I didn't try your advices as I don't now how to try them. How do I deactivate sandbox? I tried to search for touch: setting times of gentoo but I don't understand how this is related to my problem. Yahoo reply broken? I don't know what to say about that... gmail works in the same way, outlook in the same way, thunderbird in the same way. Now I'm at work, but when I will get home I will try your advices. I don't know how to that but I will find a way. Suppose that it will work, I'm afraid that I will have big problems with my server after that. I think it will keep stop me from working with errors similar to this one. Sorry for shouting but I do not have power to continue anymore... :(( what should have been a straight forward installation, converted into a nightmare
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Thursday, September 15, 2011 01:58:59 AM Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:16:12 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: snipped undecypherable part Dear Michael Thank you for your help! I didn't reboot my machine as the installation is not complete yet. How can I reboot when the installation isn't finish, if things that should work don't work in the first place? I could not find the currently running kernel you are using in this thread. Possibly, you are hitting an issue caused by a feature lacking in that kernel. What did you boot your machine with prior to starting the installation? Please also include the version and URL where you downloaded this from. I didn't try your advices as I don't now how to try them. How do I deactivate sandbox? Michael grimlog Schreckenbauer actually already told you how to do this: ** If you cannot upgrade your kernel right now, you can disable the sandbox FEATURES=-sandbox in /etc/make.conf (I do not recommend this) ** The sandbox is a security feature. If you disable it to get the install working and a newer kernel-version. Please undo this change after the first boot into the new kernel. I tried to search for touch: setting times of gentoo but I don't understand how this is related to my problem. Yahoo reply broken? I don't know what to say about that... gmail works in the same way, outlook in the same way, thunderbird in the same way. In other words, they're all broken. A good Email client will allow you to send non-HTML email. Puts quote marks in front of the lines and add a bladibla wrote this or similar line. It should also allow you to easily put your reply at the bottom of the email. GMail has been mentioned a few times as doing things wrongly. I won't even mention the many ways in which MS Outlook does things badly and Thunderbird wants to be a copy of MS Outlook. Now I'm at work, but when I will get home I will try your advices. I don't know how to that but I will find a way. Suppose that it will work, I'm afraid that I will have big problems with my server after that. I think it will keep stop me from working with errors similar to this one. Sorry for shouting but I do not have power to continue anymore... :(( what should have been a straight forward installation, converted into a nightmare Lets see if we can find out. Using the current live-cd from the gentoo website, I managed to install Gentoo without problem. If you are using an older kernel-version, you are likely using an older live-cd / host-environment. For this, there are usually work- arounds, but it might be an idea to start with a more current live-cd environment. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:58:59 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:16:12 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: First, make sure you have emerged the kernel's sources. Second, check that the newer sources have been selected: 'eselect kernel list' followed by 'eselect kernel set'. Build the kernel, either using genkernel or make triumvirate (make menuconfig make make modules_install) Install the new kernel in /boot. Reboot. Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. Rgds, --- :((( :((( Is it possible to compile the kernel without emerging kernel's sources? No. I have made an installation one week ago on a virtual machine and it worked fine. The kernel on that virtual machine is 2.6.39-gentoo-r3. How is it possible to use the same manual, same mirrors, same steps and still to have a different kernel version? How is it possible not to work? You did not reboot. If I use genkernel is because I DON'T KNOW how to compile the kernel manually. This being said, sentences like: Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. are the Gordian knot for me. No problem. Just use genkernel, if you like. It works for many of us without problems. But you have to reboot. No matter how you build your kernel. I'm very frustrated because on gentoo's forum no one didn't answer for three days now, and on this mailing list we have changed 4-5 emails regarding how an email should be written. If you want help, you need to know, how to ask questions in a correct way - if your mails are unreadable, nobody will read them and you will get no answers. Meanwhile, my server is still offline. Why don't you follow my advices? Have you tried only one of the options I offered? You know, I am an experienced user, I don't tell you shit. Now, in another order of ideas: - I have searched the internet for 2-3 days before sending an email here Here's a tip. If you see an error, you cannot decipher, put it into google with quotes and gentoo, in your case: touch: setting times of gentoo The second hit, I get here, describes your problem. - I didn't read the standard of how to send an email and I'm sorry for that but I didn't had time - I wrote the emails using the format that seemed more natural for me, the newest on top having the track of emails bellow, so that anyone who sees the email can understand what's this all about, including myself; I had to search for a half an our in my emails to find the first email on another topic... - I do not now how you format your emails to look the way they look, having that sentence on top with x wrote on... and before each line of the text you keep for reply; this is why I have used standard reply from yahoo, because I didn't wanted to reinvent the wheel I hit reply in my mail-client (kmail). That's all I have to do. Is yahoo's reply really so broken? Hmmm. - I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR EACH USER ON THIS EMAIL LIST BUT I NEED URGENT HELP ON THE TOPIC: I CANNOT INSTALL GENTOOO - I AM NOT AN EXPERIENCED USER WHO CAN CREATE HIS OWN KERNEL, RE-WRITE DRIVERS AND SO ON; PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF YOU ANSWER HAVE PATIENCE Shouting at people, that try to help, is a bad idea in my book. Thank you in advance! Best, Michael Dear Michael Thank you for your help! I didn't reboot my machine as the installation is not complete yet. How can I reboot when the installation isn't finish, if things that should work don't work in the first place? I can well understand, that you don't like to reboot your server right now. I didn't try your advices as I don't now how to try them. How do I deactivate sandbox? In /etc/make.conf 1) it already has a line starting with FEATURES= a) that line already has an entry sandbox solution: add a - before it, so it reads -sandbox b) the line does not contain sandbox solution: add -sandbox at the end 2) there's no line starting with FEATURES= solution: add line FEATURES=-sandbox to /etc/make.conf I tried to search for touch: setting times of gentoo but I don't understand how this is related to my problem. That's (part of) the error-message you got, when you tried to compile syslog- ng (in fact, it was part of the error, when emerge tried to compile autoconf, which is needed by syslog-ng) Yahoo reply broken? I don't know what to say about that... gmail works in the same way, outlook in the same way, thunderbird in the same way. No, they don't. A lot of people here on the list use thunderbird and gmail, most replies are wellformed. Don't know, what outlook does. There's no linux- or BSD-version, so I don't care. Now I'm at work, but when I will get home I will try your advices. I don't
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
From: Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Thursday, September 15, 2011 01:58:59 AM Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:16:12 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: snipped undecypherable part Dear Michael Thank you for your help! I didn't reboot my machine as the installation is not complete yet. How can I reboot when the installation isn't finish, if things that should work don't work in the first place? I could not find the currently running kernel you are using in this thread. Possibly, you are hitting an issue caused by a feature lacking in that kernel. What did you boot your machine with prior to starting the installation? Please also include the version and URL where you downloaded this from. I didn't try your advices as I don't now how to try them. How do I deactivate sandbox? Michael grimlog Schreckenbauer actually already told you how to do this: ** If you cannot upgrade your kernel right now, you can disable the sandbox FEATURES=-sandbox in /etc/make.conf (I do not recommend this) ** The sandbox is a security feature. If you disable it to get the install working and a newer kernel-version. Please undo this change after the first boot into the new kernel. I tried to search for touch: setting times of gentoo but I don't understand how this is related to my problem. Yahoo reply broken? I don't know what to say about that... gmail works in the same way, outlook in the same way, thunderbird in the same way. In other words, they're all broken. A good Email client will allow you to send non-HTML email. Puts quote marks in front of the lines and add a bladibla wrote this or similar line. It should also allow you to easily put your reply at the bottom of the email. GMail has been mentioned a few times as doing things wrongly. I won't even mention the many ways in which MS Outlook does things badly and Thunderbird wants to be a copy of MS Outlook. Now I'm at work, but when I will get home I will try your advices. I don't know how to that but I will find a way. Suppose that it will work, I'm afraid that I will have big problems with my server after that. I think it will keep stop me from working with errors similar to this one. Sorry for shouting but I do not have power to continue anymore... :(( what should have been a straight forward installation, converted into a nightmare Lets see if we can find out. Using the current live-cd from the gentoo website, I managed to install Gentoo without problem. If you are using an older kernel-version, you are likely using an older live-cd / host-environment. For this, there are usually work- arounds, but it might be an idea to start with a more current live-cd environment. -- Joost Dear Joost, thank you! Indeed this is the problem, my LiveCD is an old one. I'm not at home right now but I can bet it will work if I will create a new LiveCD. I haven't take that into consideration as I thought that it won't be a problem since I download the kernel. Anyway, thanks! I will send a new email in the this evening with solved.
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Thursday, 15. September 2011 11:25:56 Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday, September 15, 2011 01:58:59 AM Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:16:12 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: snipped undecypherable part Dear Michael Thank you for your help! I didn't reboot my machine as the installation is not complete yet. How can I reboot when the installation isn't finish, if things that should work don't work in the first place? I could not find the currently running kernel you are using in this thread. It's 2.6.19-something. He hit's a problem with new coreutils running on kernels older than 2.6.22 Something related to futimesat, that was introduced with this kernel. Possibly, you are hitting an issue caused by a feature lacking in that kernel. What did you boot your machine with prior to starting the installation? Please also include the version and URL where you downloaded this from. I didn't try your advices as I don't now how to try them. How do I deactivate sandbox? Michael grimlog Schreckenbauer actually already told you how to do this: ** If you cannot upgrade your kernel right now, you can disable the sandbox FEATURES=-sandbox in /etc/make.conf (I do not recommend this) ** The sandbox is a security feature. If you disable it to get the install working and a newer kernel-version. Please undo this change after the first boot into the new kernel. Ack. I tried to search for touch: setting times of gentoo but I don't understand how this is related to my problem. Yahoo reply broken? I don't know what to say about that... gmail works in the same way, outlook in the same way, thunderbird in the same way. In other words, they're all broken. A good Email client will allow you to send non-HTML email. Puts quote marks in front of the lines and add a bladibla wrote this or similar line. It should also allow you to easily put your reply at the bottom of the email. GMail has been mentioned a few times as doing things wrongly. I won't even mention the many ways in which MS Outlook does things badly and Thunderbird wants to be a copy of MS Outlook. Afaict, there are quite a few people here using thunderbird. Most replies are wellformed. Outlook, well... it's not a mail-client after all. Best, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Thursday 15 Sep 2011 09:14:34 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: On Thursday, 15. September 2011 00:27:43 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: On 2011-09-14 22:23, Michael Mol wrote: It seams that the discussion degenerated on how to send emails... Can anyone please help regarding my problem? It seems that indeed I have an old kernel version, but how is that possible taking into consideration that I have used genkernel? How can I upgrade it? You did not reboot. genkernel maybe built a new kernel and installed it into /boot, but to make use of the newly built kernel, you have to reboot. If you think, that rebooting is not suitable right now, I offered two alternative (possible) solutions to your compile problems. 1) disable sandbox temporarily 2) use busybox's touch instead googling now... a here's a reference: http://foxpa.ws/2011/04/12/portage-errors-touch-no-such-file-or-directory/ I was wrong. You don't need a kernel 2.6.22, you need a kernel = 2.6.22 :) If you are still chroot'ed into your new installation you are using the LiveCD kernel, which may not be particularly fresh. To use your newly compiled genkernel you will need to exit the chroot and reboot into your new system (don't forget to eject the LiveCD). I think it shouldn't matter if syslog-ng is not emerged yet, you should be able to emerge it when you boot into your new Gentoo system. An alternative would be to use a different LiveCD with a more up to date kernel. You can try: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page which is kept current by its developers. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:37:12 AM Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Yahoo reply broken? I don't know what to say about that... gmail works in the same way, outlook in the same way, thunderbird in the same way. In other words, they're all broken. A good Email client will allow you to send non-HTML email. Puts quote marks in front of the lines and add a bladibla wrote this or similar line. It should also allow you to easily put your reply at the bottom of the email. GMail has been mentioned a few times as doing things wrongly. I won't even mention the many ways in which MS Outlook does things badly and Thunderbird wants to be a copy of MS Outlook. Afaict, there are quite a few people here using thunderbird. Most replies are wellformed. Outlook, well... it's not a mail-client after all. Thunderbird works fine, if you're ok to do things Thunderbird wants to do things. The last time I tried it, it decided it wants to have copy of all the email from my IMAP-server locally. If it were a laptop with sufficient disk-space, then it would be ok. But as it's a desktop where I want to have usefull stuff locally. Having a copy of all my email locally on a desktop with gigabit connectivity to the mail-server doesn't really give any benefit. With that behaviour, I never bothered to see how replies would look. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
Joost Roeleveld writes: Thunderbird works fine, if you're ok to do things Thunderbird wants to do things. The last time I tried it, it decided it wants to have copy of all the email from my IMAP-server locally. I ran into this, too. I sort of like the feature, but it's better to do the synchronization when not working with Thunderbird, because it eats much CPU time. At least on my very slow laptop. But you can turn it off: in the 'synchronization and space' settings, first option at the top. Now if I only knew why Thunderbird on Linux (not on Windows) does not check my folders for new mails... this makes it unusable for me. So I'm using Claws now. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
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Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Wed 14 Sep 2011 08:31:56 PM IST, Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error can be seen bellow: Making all in emacs make[3]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/work/autoconf-2.68/lib/emacs' WARNING: Warnings can be ignored. :-) touch: setting times of `elc-temp': No such file or directory make[3]: *** [elc-stamp] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/work/autoconf-2.68/lib/emacs' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/work/autoconf-2.68/lib' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/work/autoconf-2.68' make: *** [all] Error 2 emake failed * ERROR: sys-devel/autoconf-2.68 failed (compile phase): * emake failed * * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 56: Called src_compile * environment, line 147: Called _eapi2_src_compile * ebuild.sh, line 669: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die emake failed * * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info =sys-devel/autoconf-2.68', * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv =sys-devel/autoconf-2.68'. * The complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/temp/build.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/temp/environment'. * S: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/work/autoconf-2.68' Failed to emerge sys-devel/autoconf-2.68, Log file: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/temp/build.log' * Messages for package sys-devel/autoconf-2.68: * ERROR: sys-devel/autoconf-2.68 failed (compile phase): * emake failed * * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 56: Called src_compile * environment, line 147: Called _eapi2_src_compile * ebuild.sh, line 669: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die emake failed * * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info =sys-devel/autoconf-2.68', * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv =sys-devel/autoconf-2.68'. * The complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/temp/build.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/temp/environment'. * S: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/autoconf-2.68/work/autoconf-2.68' * GNU info directory index is up-to-date. * IMPORTANT: 2 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. * Use eselect news to read news items. The same error I get for vixie-cron. Some other things worth mentioning: - portage didn't request for an update - mirrorselect -i -o faild with error: cannot download a list of mirrors or something similar. I will really appreciate your help as my server is down for two days now. Thank you! Best regards! It would be more helpful if you could post the details emerge asks you to, before terminating. -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
Hi, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 08:01:56 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error can be seen bellow: snip The same error I get for vixie-cron. this is sys-devel/autoconf failing, building some emacs related things. Try USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf If that works, add sys-devel/autoconf -emacs to /etc/portage/package.use Some other things worth mentioning: - portage didn't request for an update What version is installed? - mirrorselect -i -o faild with error: cannot download a list of mirrors or something similar. No idea. I will really appreciate your help as my server is down for two days now. Thank you! Best regards! Regards, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
Hi the version of portage: Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf - ir doesn't work; same error Nilesh, can you please be more explicite? Thank you! From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng Hi, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 08:01:56 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error can be seen bellow: snip The same error I get for vixie-cron. this is sys-devel/autoconf failing, building some emacs related things. Try USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf If that works, add sys-devel/autoconf -emacs to /etc/portage/package.use Some other things worth mentioning: - portage didn't request for an update What version is installed? - mirrorselect -i -o faild with error: cannot download a list of mirrors or something similar. No idea. I will really appreciate your help as my server is down for two days now. Thank you! Best regards! Regards, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 09:00:02 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi the version of portage: Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, 2.1.10.11 is the latest. So no error here glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf - ir doesn't work; same error Is there space left on the device? If so, does something like touch /var/tmp/portage/foo.stamp (as root) work? Nilesh, can you please be more explicite? Thank you! Best, Michael BTW: please don't top-post if possible. From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng Hi, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 08:01:56 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error can be seen bellow: snip The same error I get for vixie-cron. this is sys-devel/autoconf failing, building some emacs related things. Try USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf If that works, add sys-devel/autoconf -emacs to /etc/portage/package.use Some other things worth mentioning: - portage didn't request for an update What version is installed? - mirrorselect -i -o faild with error: cannot download a list of mirrors or something similar. No idea. I will really appreciate your help as my server is down for two days now. Thank you! Best regards! Regards, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
Hi Michael I have 1.9GB left and it works to create a new file. BTW: What means don't top-post if possible? From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 09:00:02 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi the version of portage: Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, 2.1.10.11 is the latest. So no error here glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf - ir doesn't work; same error Is there space left on the device? If so, does something like touch /var/tmp/portage/foo.stamp (as root) work? Nilesh, can you please be more explicite? Thank you! Best, Michael BTW: please don't top-post if possible. From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng Hi, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 08:01:56 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error can be seen bellow: snip The same error I get for vixie-cron. this is sys-devel/autoconf failing, building some emacs related things. Try USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf If that works, add sys-devel/autoconf -emacs to /etc/portage/package.use Some other things worth mentioning: - portage didn't request for an update What version is installed? - mirrorselect -i -o faild with error: cannot download a list of mirrors or something similar. No idea. I will really appreciate your help as my server is down for two days now. Thank you! Best regards! Regards, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
Am 14.09.2011 18:48, schrieb Trifu Catalin Florin: BTW: What means don't top-post if possible? What you do is top posting, you post your message on top of the other messages. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 09:48:33 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi Michael I have 1.9GB left and it works to create a new file. Ah, got it. Your kernel is too old. You need a kernel 2.6.22 to make this work. If you cannot upgrade your kernel right now, you can disable the sandbox FEATURES=-sandbox in /etc/make.conf (I do not recommend this) Or you can replace touch with busybox's implementation (if bb is installed) mv /bin/touch /root (to save it for later restauration) ln -s /bin/bb /bin/touch BTW: What means don't top-post if possible? - http://idallen.com/topposting.html Best, Michael From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 09:00:02 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi the version of portage: Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, 2.1.10.11 is the latest. So no error here glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf - ir doesn't work; same error Is there space left on the device? If so, does something like touch /var/tmp/portage/foo.stamp (as root) work? Nilesh, can you please be more explicite? Thank you! Best, Michael BTW: please don't top-post if possible. From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng Hi, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 08:01:56 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error can be seen bellow: snip The same error I get for vixie-cron. this is sys-devel/autoconf failing, building some emacs related things. Try USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf If that works, add sys-devel/autoconf -emacs to /etc/portage/package.use Some other things worth mentioning: - portage didn't request for an update What version is installed? - mirrorselect -i -o faild with error: cannot download a list of mirrors or something similar. No idea. I will really appreciate your help as my server is down for two days now. Thank you! Best regards! Regards, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Trifu Catalin Florin sviatov...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Michael I have 1.9GB left and it works to create a new file. BTW: What means don't top-post if possible? From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 09:00:02 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi the version of portage: Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, 2.1.10.11 is the latest. So no error here glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf - ir doesn't work; same error Is there space left on the device? If so, does something like touch /var/tmp/portage/foo.stamp (as root) work? Nilesh, can you please be more explicite? Thank you! Best, Michael BTW: please don't top-post if possible. From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng Hi, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 08:01:56 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error can be seen bellow: snip The same error I get for vixie-cron. this is sys-devel/autoconf failing, building some emacs related things. Try USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf If that works, add sys-devel/autoconf -emacs to /etc/portage/package.use Some other things worth mentioning: - portage didn't request for an update What version is installed? - mirrorselect -i -o faild with error: cannot download a list of mirrors or something similar. No idea. I will really appreciate your help as my server is down for two days now. Thank you! Best regards! Regards, Michael Top posting refers to adding your reply to an email above the quoted text from what you're replying to. Bottom posting is the standard on many mailing lists because it allows a more natural flow of conversation to progress down the set of nested replies, so context is provided before the response being given. That preference, along with a preference for plain-text rather than HTML mail, is generally overlooked when a particular mail client is incapable of one or the other (common on phone-based clients, primarily). -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
From: Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Trifu Catalin Florin sviatov...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Michael I have 1.9GB left and it works to create a new file. BTW: What means don't top-post if possible? From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 09:00:02 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi the version of portage: Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, 2.1.10.11 is the latest. So no error here glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf - ir doesn't work; same error Is there space left on the device? If so, does something like touch /var/tmp/portage/foo.stamp (as root) work? Nilesh, can you please be more explicite? Thank you! Best, Michael BTW: please don't top-post if possible. From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng Hi, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 08:01:56 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error can be seen bellow: snip The same error I get for vixie-cron. this is sys-devel/autoconf failing, building some emacs related things. Try USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf If that works, add sys-devel/autoconf -emacs to /etc/portage/package.use Some other things worth mentioning: - portage didn't request for an update What version is installed? - mirrorselect -i -o faild with error: cannot download a list of mirrors or something similar. No idea. I will really appreciate your help as my server is down for two days now. Thank you! Best regards! Regards, Michael Top posting refers to adding your reply to an email above the quoted text from what you're replying to. Bottom posting is the standard on many mailing lists because it allows a more natural flow of conversation to progress down the set of nested replies, so context is provided before the response being given. That preference, along with a preference for plain-text rather than HTML mail, is generally overlooked when a particular mail client is incapable of one or the other (common on phone-based clients, primarily). -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy This can't be true. My kernel version is 2.6.39-gentoo-r3.
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 12:16:19 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Me wrote: Ah, got it. Your kernel is too old. You need a kernel 2.6.22 to make this work. If you cannot upgrade your kernel right now, you can disable the sandbox FEATURES=-sandbox in /etc/make.conf (I do not recommend this) Or you can replace touch with busybox's implementation (if bb is installed) mv /bin/touch /root (to save it for later restauration) ln -s /bin/bb /bin/touch This can't be true. My kernel version is 2.6.39-gentoo-r3. Are you sure? To quote you from an earlier mail: Hi the version of portage: Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) See? 2.6.19... Did you reboot with the new kernel? Best, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
From: Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Trifu Catalin Florin sviatov...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Michael I have 1.9GB left and it works to create a new file. BTW: What means don't top-post if possible? From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 09:00:02 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi the version of portage: Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, 2.1.10.11 is the latest. So no error here glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf - ir doesn't work; same error Is there space left on the device? If so, does something like touch /var/tmp/portage/foo.stamp (as root) work? Nilesh, can you please be more explicite? Thank you! Best, Michael BTW: please don't top-post if possible. From: Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng Hi, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 08:01:56 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error can be seen bellow: snip The same error I get for vixie-cron. this is sys-devel/autoconf failing, building some emacs related things. Try USE=-emacs emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf If that works, add sys-devel/autoconf -emacs to /etc/portage/package.use Some other things worth mentioning: - portage didn't request for an update What version is installed? - mirrorselect -i -o faild with error: cannot download a list of mirrors or something similar. No idea. I will really appreciate your help as my server is down for two days now. Thank you! Best regards! Regards, Michael Top posting refers to adding your reply to an email above the quoted text from what you're replying to. Bottom posting is the standard on many mailing lists because it allows a more natural flow of conversation to progress down the set of nested replies, so context is provided before the response being given. That preference, along with a preference for plain-text rather than HTML mail, is generally overlooked when a particular mail client is incapable of one or the other (common on phone-based clients, primarily). -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy This can't be true. My kernel version is 2.6.39-gentoo-r3. I have restarted the installation. If I try to select the mirrors by issuing: mirrorselect -i -o /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf I receive the error: ERROR: Could not get mirror list. Check your internet connection. For the sync mirrors by issuing the command: mirrorselect -i -r -o /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf it works fine.
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 12:36:40 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: . Hi, may I ask, how you actually reply to this list? I see you now learned about top-posting :) But your replies still are very hard to read. First of all, you really should delete unrelated parts of the mail. See? I don't refer to the content of your mail, so I simply deleted it. Second, but less important, no html, please - your mails are so called multipart, that's better than plain html. but plain text is preferred here on the list. And last and imo most important: the way you reply, damages the quoting of the content. It's hard to see, who wrote what in what context. Do you hit forward mail or reply mail? Best, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On 2011-09-14 19:04, Joshua Murphy wrote: text from what you're replying to. Bottom posting is the standard on many mailing lists because it allows a more natural flow of Yes, but... netiquette also says you should edit and trim away all text not necessary for the reply... I wish more would do that on the lists that I subscribe to but even very experienced people seem to have given up on this, or something... sigh! :-( Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2011-09-14 19:04, Joshua Murphy wrote: text from what you're replying to. Bottom posting is the standard on many mailing lists because it allows a more natural flow of Yes, but... netiquette also says you should edit and trim away all text not necessary for the reply... I wish more would do that on the lists that I subscribe to but even very experienced people seem to have given up on this, or something... sigh! :-( It's not always obvious that it's there, so sometimes it slips by me. In GMail, for example, large swaths of nested conversation and the like get hidden by '-Show quoted text-'. Hit reply, hit ctrl-End to get to the bottom, reply...and not realize that you jumped past five kilobytes' worth of stale, quoted conversation. The fewer layers of irrelevant nested conversation left embedded, the better. And the fewer nested regards, respectfully and other signatures, the better. Now if only I could get GMail to not dedicate four lines to a two-line sig... -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
As you can probably see I'm using yahoo mail, so obviously I use yahoo's reply. This mail will be sent as plain text. I'm sorry for the inconvenient of having you read emails that do not respect the standard, I didn't even knew there is one. Michael, I didn't reboot the computer. How could I when I'm reinstalling gentoo? Anyway, can someone please tell me how can I see the kernel version?
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 13:25:41 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: As you can probably see I'm using yahoo mail, so obviously I use yahoo's reply. This mail will be sent as plain text. I'm sorry for the inconvenient of having you read emails that do not respect the standard, I didn't even knew there is one. No problem, really. Michael, I didn't reboot the computer. How could I when I'm reinstalling gentoo? Anyway, can someone please tell me how can I see the kernel version? uname -r does this Best, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng
On 2011-09-14 22:23, Michael Mol wrote: like get hidden by '-Show quoted text-'. Hit reply, hit ctrl-End to get to the bottom, reply...and not realize that you jumped past five kilobytes' worth of stale, quoted conversation. Ouch! That (almost) physically hurt! ;-) Best regards Peter K, longing for Pine (but too busy lazy to configure fetchmail right now)
