Re: [gentoo-user] OT - recommendations for a high availability Oracle server

2005-06-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 17 June 2005 20:55, Antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> Our company is going to be bidding for a contract that will require
> about 45 lan connections (08:00 to 20:00) and a few web connections to
> an Oracle database.
> The contract states that we can only have 1 hr max downtime per month
> (pretty generous really, I thought) and the boss, his head in dark and
> nether regions, is, of course, looking at winders servers.
> I must admit, I have no knowledge in this area, except that Windows is
> not the best choice for high availability! Or is it? Seeing as it pretty
> much only has to run Oracle, what would people suggest? Linux (and if
> Linux - Redhat, Suse, Gentoo,...)? BSD? Or would it definitely be worth
> the dolleros to go for an AIX or Solaris + Hardware solution? Or is he
> right in thinking that Server 2003 is best?
> We would obviously not be able to spend massive amounts, so a $3+
> solution is not on the cards...
> Cheers
> Antoine
> ps. we have only x86 servers at the moment mostly running server 2000 or
> 2003, but the admin would rather be running linux...

hm, Dell, hp and IBM are selling some nice linux-boxes.. all you have to do is 
to tell them what you want and to help your boss, when his heart makes 'boom' 
because of the $$$. But at least, you'll would have someone responsible, when 
something goes wrong. And that it the most important point. Don't make the 
box for yourself, buy it.

Solaris is a very safe choice, also AIX, but maybe you should talk to someone 
at oracle ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - recommendations for a high availability Oracle server

2005-06-17 Thread Mike Williams
On Friday 17 June 2005 19:55, Antoine wrote:
> Our company is going to be bidding for a contract that will require
> about 45 lan connections (08:00 to 20:00) and a few web connections to
> an Oracle database.
> The contract states that we can only have 1 hr max downtime per month
> (pretty generous really, I thought) and the boss, his head in dark and
> nether regions, is, of course, looking at winders servers.
> I must admit, I have no knowledge in this area, except that Windows is
> not the best choice for high availability! Or is it? Seeing as it pretty
> much only has to run Oracle, what would people suggest? Linux (and if
> Linux - Redhat, Suse, Gentoo,...)? BSD? Or would it definitely be worth
> the dolleros to go for an AIX or Solaris + Hardware solution? Or is he
> right in thinking that Server 2003 is best?
> We would obviously not be able to spend massive amounts, so a $3+
> solution is not on the cards...

I know of a big-ass HA Oracle system at a previous employer.
It was an Oracle 9i RAC system, consisting of 3x boxes, dual fibre channel 
switches, dual FC arrays stuffed with SCSI disks, and finally a big quad CPU 
box as a failover for the failover/redundant/resilient RAC! I think there was 
a master server for the RAC in there too.
That system IS NOT going down, at all, ever (unless something absolutely 
catastrophic happens, all the kit is in the same room).
All Dell stuff, running RedHat. As Byron says, RedHat is one of the few 
distros Oracle will support. SLES is another, and thats what we run our 
Oracle 8 installs on.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - recommendations for a high availability Oracle server

2005-06-17 Thread byron
Antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> Our company is going to be bidding for a contract that will require
> about 45 lan connections (08:00 to 20:00) and a few web connections to
> an Oracle database.
> The contract states that we can only have 1 hr max downtime per month
> (pretty generous really, I thought) and the boss, his head in dark and
> nether regions, is, of course, looking at winders servers.
> I must admit, I have no knowledge in this area, except that Windows is
> not the best choice for high availability! Or is it? Seeing as it pretty
> much only has to run Oracle, what would people suggest? Linux (and if
> Linux - Redhat, Suse, Gentoo,...)? BSD? Or would it definitely be worth
> the dolleros to go for an AIX or Solaris + Hardware solution? Or is he
> right in thinking that Server 2003 is best?
> We would obviously not be able to spend massive amounts, so a $3+
> solution is not on the cards...
> Cheers
> Antoine
> ps. we have only x86 servers at the moment mostly running server 2000 or
> 2003, but the admin would rather be running linux...

We run Oracle 10g RAC and Grid quite successfully on about 12 RedHat
Enterprise Servers.  We chose RedHat mainly because it's the only Linux
distro that Oracle will support, as far as I know.  I've heard of people
getting Oracle to install and run on Gentoo but I imagine it requires a
bit of tweaking/hacking not to mention that you won't get any support
from Oracle when something breaks.  The servers themselves are Dell
PowerEdge 2850's, not insane powerhouses but quite robust.

Byron
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - recommendations for a high availability Oracle server

2005-06-17 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jun 17, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Antoine wrote:


Hi,
Our company is going to be bidding for a contract that will require
about 45 lan connections (08:00 to 20:00) and a few web connections to
an Oracle database.
The contract states that we can only have 1 hr max downtime per month
(pretty generous really, I thought) and the boss, his head in dark and
nether regions, is, of course, looking at winders servers.
I must admit, I have no knowledge in this area, except that Windows is
not the best choice for high availability! Or is it? Seeing as it  
pretty

much only has to run Oracle, what would people suggest? Linux (and if
Linux - Redhat, Suse, Gentoo,...)? BSD? Or would it definitely be  
worth

the dolleros to go for an AIX or Solaris + Hardware solution? Or is he
right in thinking that Server 2003 is best?
We would obviously not be able to spend massive amounts, so a $3+
solution is not on the cards...
Cheers
Antoine
ps. we have only x86 servers at the moment mostly running server  
2000 or

2003, but the admin would rather be running linux...


I have not run Oracle, but Oracle is certified on Linux so build a  
redundant Linux box (RAID 10 or 5 with hot spares), redundant power  
supplies, and have a spare motherboard and memory sticks available,  
and for a budget that you seem to imply, this should stay up and  
running as good or or probably better than the winders.  The winders  
would be my last choice.  Too many sites I know of running winders  
are down more than the allowed amount you specify.


Chad


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