Re: [gentoo-user] Re: You removed Weboob package over political reasons? Whole Internet laughs at you

2018-12-24 Thread Davyd McColl

On December 24, 2018 6:30:01 PM Rich Freeman  wrote:


On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 11:25 AM Davyd McColl  wrote:

wtf is this toxicity? Not enough hugs from mommy?



This discussion has nothing to do with Gentoo.  Please refrain from
dragging it out - it was cross-posted to about half a dozen different
lists.  It is not necessary to "win" an argument here - we have
nothing to do with linux licensing and nothing is going to be
accomplished by holding a debate here.

--
Rich


@Rich you're right. Apologies. I'm too easily incensed by stupidity ):





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: You removed Weboob package over political reasons? Whole Internet laughs at you

2018-12-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 11:25 AM Davyd McColl  wrote:
> wtf is this toxicity? Not enough hugs from mommy?
>

This discussion has nothing to do with Gentoo.  Please refrain from
dragging it out - it was cross-posted to about half a dozen different
lists.  It is not necessary to "win" an argument here - we have
nothing to do with linux licensing and nothing is going to be
accomplished by holding a debate here.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: You removed Weboob package over political reasons? Whole Internet laughs at you

2018-12-24 Thread Davyd McColl




On December 24, 2018 5:17:57 PM vsnsdua...@memeware.net wrote:


Debian is not ruled by the men who actually write the software, but
instead women.
Just like in all the anglo-american conquered world.

We, the men who actually do work, are treated as the same worker-slaves
everywhere.

Opensource was a refuge from the worthless cunts (who ban us from having
anything good, such as cute young child brides (allowed by YHWH))
but has not been for some time now. Part and parcel of anglo culture:
the man is a dog, the wwmmmannn is a Noble.


wtf is this toxicity? Not enough hugs from mommy?


Now that Linus has caved all is lost.


imo, Linus has done well to overcome some of his buddies for (probably) 
being on the spectrum. Well done to him and I hope we can all learn a thing 
or two.




But you can always rescind license for your copyrighted works...
(as-long as they are a bare license such as the gpl2).

Absent an attached interest (ie: someone paying you for use of the work,
or relying on your promises): you the rightsholder have the right to
rescind at will.
GPL v2 lacks such language disclaiming rescission, you made no
utterances that one could rely upon to suggest
that there would be no rescission, and you were paid no consideration
for your work.
.: You can rescind, just like any other property license.

And yes, I am a lawyer.
Cool. Assuming that your information isn't just more bias, that's 
interesting to know.


Men should be free to take girl children as brides and feminism should

Are you serious here,  pedobear?

be eliminated from the earth
(just as they seek to eliminate all pro-male cultures in the world)
Just like with guys, there are radicals. The true heart of feminism is 
equality, not ownership and degradation. I earnestly hope for your 
enlightenment.


On 2018-12-24 14:58, Default User wrote:

On Mon, Dec 24, 2018, 05:20 Ivan Ivanov 
500 comments at Slashdot, >200 at Phoronix and >1000 at linux org

ru! See now?
When a technical project starts making their decisions over
political reasons...
rather than technical, it is doomed. Good time to switch to a
similar distro
with mentally sane leadership, like Devuan. Also what's good about
Devuan :

Devuan does not use SystemDick as its' init system! SystemD contains

1 million

lines of bloated code and lots of vulnerabilities have been found
there and
countless haven't, also the SystemD creators are arrogant and refuse
to fix many
discovered security vulnerabilities, to a point where they've been
awarded a
" Pwnie award " for refusing to fix a critical vuln.

That is why I prefer the distros which are using something else as
init system:
either good old SysV, or something more modern like OpenRC (at Artix
Linux) or
runit (at Void Linux) , just not systemd! There are only a few such
distros left
because of Redhat pressure, and luckily Devuan is one of them.
If you found Debian as useful before it went nuts then maybe you'd
like Devuan,
or even some other distros that I mentioned: Artix Linux =Arch with
a human face
(has GUI + everything configured by default, nice GUI package
manager and
convenient to use even for the beginners), and Void Linux -amazingly
fast distro
really suitable for old PCs, but lacks some packages so you'd need
to compile
the things from source once in a while, in comparison Artix has
almost the same
set of packages as Arch. Both Artix and Void are very stable despite
their
packages are really new and they are among the first to get new
Linux kernels
with fresh drivers.

Or maybe MX Linux, one of the top popularity distros nowadays which
is
also "no systemd" and somehow only recently I learned about it

Best regards,
Ivan Ivanov,
open source firmware developer


How ridiculous that some pathetic questionable would spend their
precious time on Earth censoring package names which contain the
character string "boob".

Sad.











Re: [gentoo-user] Re: You removed Weboob package over political reasons? Whole Internet laughs at you

2018-12-24 Thread James Stevenson
Holy cow! Didn't realise I was subscribed to the OpenBSD mailing list.

On Mon, Dec 24, 2018, 3:18 PM  Debian is not ruled by the men who actually write the software, but
> instead women.
> Just like in all the anglo-american conquered world.
>
> We, the men who actually do work, are treated as the same worker-slaves
> everywhere.
>
> Opensource was a refuge from the worthless cunts (who ban us from having
> anything good, such as cute young child brides (allowed by YHWH))
> but has not been for some time now. Part and parcel of anglo culture:
> the man is a dog, the wwmmmannn is a Noble.
>
> Now that Linus has caved all is lost.
>
> But you can always rescind license for your copyrighted works...
> (as-long as they are a bare license such as the gpl2).
>
> Absent an attached interest (ie: someone paying you for use of the work,
> or relying on your promises): you the rightsholder have the right to
> rescind at will.
> GPL v2 lacks such language disclaiming rescission, you made no
> utterances that one could rely upon to suggest
> that there would be no rescission, and you were paid no consideration
> for your work.
> .: You can rescind, just like any other property license.
>
> And yes, I am a lawyer.
>
> Men should be free to take girl children as brides and feminism should
> be eliminated from the earth
> (just as they seek to eliminate all pro-male cultures in the world)
>
> On 2018-12-24 14:58, Default User wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 24, 2018, 05:20 Ivan Ivanov  >
> >>> 500 comments at Slashdot, >200 at Phoronix and >1000 at linux org
> >> ru! See now?
> >> When a technical project starts making their decisions over
> >> political reasons...
> >> rather than technical, it is doomed. Good time to switch to a
> >> similar distro
> >> with mentally sane leadership, like Devuan. Also what's good about
> >> Devuan :
> >>
> >> Devuan does not use SystemDick as its' init system! SystemD contains
> >>> 1 million
> >> lines of bloated code and lots of vulnerabilities have been found
> >> there and
> >> countless haven't, also the SystemD creators are arrogant and refuse
> >> to fix many
> >> discovered security vulnerabilities, to a point where they've been
> >> awarded a
> >> " Pwnie award " for refusing to fix a critical vuln.
> >>
> >> That is why I prefer the distros which are using something else as
> >> init system:
> >> either good old SysV, or something more modern like OpenRC (at Artix
> >> Linux) or
> >> runit (at Void Linux) , just not systemd! There are only a few such
> >> distros left
> >> because of Redhat pressure, and luckily Devuan is one of them.
> >> If you found Debian as useful before it went nuts then maybe you'd
> >> like Devuan,
> >> or even some other distros that I mentioned: Artix Linux =Arch with
> >> a human face
> >> (has GUI + everything configured by default, nice GUI package
> >> manager and
> >> convenient to use even for the beginners), and Void Linux -amazingly
> >> fast distro
> >> really suitable for old PCs, but lacks some packages so you'd need
> >> to compile
> >> the things from source once in a while, in comparison Artix has
> >> almost the same
> >> set of packages as Arch. Both Artix and Void are very stable despite
> >> their
> >> packages are really new and they are among the first to get new
> >> Linux kernels
> >> with fresh drivers.
> >>
> >> Or maybe MX Linux, one of the top popularity distros nowadays which
> >> is
> >> also "no systemd" and somehow only recently I learned about it
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Ivan Ivanov,
> >> open source firmware developer
> >
> > How ridiculous that some pathetic questionable would spend their
> > precious time on Earth censoring package names which contain the
> > character string "boob".
> >
> > Sad.
> >
> >>
>
>


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: You removed Weboob package over political reasons? Whole Internet laughs at you

2018-12-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 24 December 2018 15:17:45 GMT vsnsdua...@memeware.net wrote:
> Debian is not ruled by the men who actually write the software, but
> instead women. Just like in all the anglo-american conquered world.

You are mistaken about the UK, of which what you have written is certainly not 
true (but they're working on it...).

-- 
Regards,
Peter.