Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-09 Thread dhk
On 12/08/2010 01:59 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> KIM WHALEN  [10-12-08 18:33]:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Matthew Summers wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:58 AM, dhk  wrote:
 On 12/08/2010 07:57 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote:
>> I don't see any address size but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 
>> size I
>> get casche size 256 KB and clflush size 64.  The laptop has 4G of 
>> memory.
>
> With 4G or more I would go with amd64.
>
>

 Thanks all, I'll give it a try.


>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you don't mind, could you post the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'? I
>>> am interested in some of the details of that CPU. Mainly I am curious
>>> if it is a fam10 cpu or something else.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> -- 
>>> Matthew W. Summers
>>
>>
>>
>> livecd ~ # cat /proc/cpuinfo
>> processor: 0
>> vendor_id: AuthenticAMD
>> cpu family   : 15
>> model: 107
>> model name   : AMD Athlon(tm) Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L335
>> stepping : 2
>> cpu MHz  : 1595.727
>> cache size   : 256 KB
>> physical id  : 0
>> siblings : 2
>> core id  : 0
>> cpu cores: 2
>> apicid   : 0
>> initial apicid   : 0
>> fpu  : yes
>> fpu_exception: yes
>> cpuid level  : 1
>> wp   : yes
>> flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
>> mca cmov 
>> pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt 
>> rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm 
>> cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch
>> bogomips : 3191.45
>> TLB size : 1024 4K pages
>> clflush size : 64
>> cache_alignment  : 64
>> address sizes: 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
>> power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
>>
>> processor: 1
>> vendor_id: AuthenticAMD
>> cpu family   : 15
>> model: 107
>> model name   : AMD Athlon(tm) Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L335
>> stepping : 2
>> cpu MHz  : 1595.727
>> cache size   : 256 KB
>> physical id  : 0
>> siblings : 2
>> core id  : 1
>> cpu cores: 2
>> apicid   : 1
>> initial apicid   : 1
>> fpu  : yes
>> fpu_exception: yes
>> cpuid level  : 1
>> wp   : yes
>> flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
>> mca cmov 
>> pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt 
>> rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm 
>> cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch
>> bogomips : 3191.89
>> TLB size : 1024 4K pages
>> clflush size : 64
>> cache_alignment  : 64
>> address sizes: 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
>> power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
>>
>> livecd ~ #
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> from the above youu will find
> 
>> address sizes: 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> 
> may be you mistyped the grep keyword ?
> 
> :)
> 
> Welcome to the AMD64 family ! :)
> 
> Have a nice evening!
> Best regards,
> mcc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Yes, thanks.

Now I have an other small problem setting up the dual boot.  I'll start
another thread on that later.

Thanks again.



Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-08 Thread meino . cramer
KIM WHALEN  [10-12-08 18:33]:
> 
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Matthew Summers wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:58 AM, dhk  wrote:
> >>On 12/08/2010 07:57 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote:
> I don't see any address size but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 
> size I
> get casche size 256 KB and clflush size 64.  The laptop has 4G of 
> memory.
> >>>
> >>>With 4G or more I would go with amd64.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Thanks all, I'll give it a try.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >If you don't mind, could you post the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'? I
> >am interested in some of the details of that CPU. Mainly I am curious
> >if it is a fam10 cpu or something else.
> >
> >TIA,
> >-- 
> >Matthew W. Summers
> 
> 
> 
> livecd ~ # cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family: 15
> model : 107
> model name: AMD Athlon(tm) Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L335
> stepping  : 2
> cpu MHz   : 1595.727
> cache size: 256 KB
> physical id   : 0
> siblings  : 2
> core id   : 0
> cpu cores : 2
> apicid: 0
> initial apicid: 0
> fpu   : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level   : 1
> wp: yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
> pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt 
> rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm 
> cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch
> bogomips  : 3191.45
> TLB size  : 1024 4K pages
> clflush size  : 64
> cache_alignment   : 64
> address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
> 
> processor : 1
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family: 15
> model : 107
> model name: AMD Athlon(tm) Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L335
> stepping  : 2
> cpu MHz   : 1595.727
> cache size: 256 KB
> physical id   : 0
> siblings  : 2
> core id   : 1
> cpu cores : 2
> apicid: 1
> initial apicid: 1
> fpu   : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level   : 1
> wp: yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
> pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt 
> rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm 
> cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch
> bogomips  : 3191.89
> TLB size  : 1024 4K pages
> clflush size  : 64
> cache_alignment   : 64
> address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
> 
> livecd ~ #
> 

Hi,

from the above youu will find

> address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual

may be you mistyped the grep keyword ?

:)

Welcome to the AMD64 family ! :)

Have a nice evening!
Best regards,
mcc








Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-08 Thread KIM WHALEN


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Matthew Summers wrote:


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:58 AM, dhk  wrote:

On 12/08/2010 07:57 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote:
I don't see any address size but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 
size I
get casche size 256 KB and clflush size 64.  The laptop has 4G of 
memory.


With 4G or more I would go with amd64.




Thanks all, I'll give it a try.




Hi,

If you don't mind, could you post the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'? I
am interested in some of the details of that CPU. Mainly I am curious
if it is a fam10 cpu or something else.

TIA,
--
Matthew W. Summers




livecd ~ # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 107
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L335
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1595.727
cache size  : 256 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
apicid  : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp 
lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm 
extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch

bogomips: 3191.45
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 107
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L335
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1595.727
cache size  : 256 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
apicid  : 1
initial apicid  : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp 
lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm 
extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch

bogomips: 3191.89
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps

livecd ~ #



Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-08 Thread Matthew Summers
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:58 AM, dhk  wrote:
> On 12/08/2010 07:57 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote:
>>> I don't see any address size but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep size I
>>> get casche size 256 KB and clflush size 64.  The laptop has 4G of memory.
>>
>> With 4G or more I would go with amd64.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks all, I'll give it a try.
>
>

Hi,

If you don't mind, could you post the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'? I
am interested in some of the details of that CPU. Mainly I am curious
if it is a fam10 cpu or something else.

TIA,
-- 
Matthew W. Summers



Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-08 Thread dhk
On 12/08/2010 07:57 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote:
>> I don't see any address size but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep size I
>> get casche size 256 KB and clflush size 64.  The laptop has 4G of memory.
> 
> With 4G or more I would go with amd64.
> 
> 

Thanks all, I'll give it a try.



Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-08 Thread Bastian Timmermann

Best is, if you take 64bit :-)

Greets

Bastian

On 08.12.2010 13:39, dhk wrote:

On 12/08/2010 07:21 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

On 12/08/10 12:25:23, dhk wrote:

I have a laptop which has an AMD Athlon Neo X2 L335 2.2GHz Dual Core
processor on it and I'd like to know which architecture (handbook and
livecd) to use.

The handbook choices are:  x86, sparc, amd64, ppc, ppc64, alpha,
hppa,
mips, ia64, arm.  I'm guessing the x86, but I's like to be sure.



x86 will do for sure.
But you can check

cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "address sizes"

If it shows more than 32 bits (e.g. 48 bits)
then you could use amd64, as well.
AFAIK, 64 is mean stream today.
How much memory do you have installed?
If more than 4G you have to use adm64 to fully use it.
I'd prefer amd64 if possible,

Helmut.





I don't see any address size but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep size I
get casche size 256 KB and clflush size 64.  The laptop has 4G of memory.




Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Hampicke
> I don't see any address size but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep size I
> get casche size 256 KB and clflush size 64.  The laptop has 4G of memory.

With 4G or more I would go with amd64.



Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-08 Thread dhk
On 12/08/2010 07:21 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 12/08/10 12:25:23, dhk wrote:
>> I have a laptop which has an AMD Athlon Neo X2 L335 2.2GHz Dual Core
>> processor on it and I'd like to know which architecture (handbook and
>> livecd) to use.
>>
>> The handbook choices are:  x86, sparc, amd64, ppc, ppc64, alpha, 
>> hppa,
>> mips, ia64, arm.  I'm guessing the x86, but I's like to be sure.
>>
> 
> x86 will do for sure.
> But you can check
> 
> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "address sizes" 
> 
> If it shows more than 32 bits (e.g. 48 bits)
> then you could use amd64, as well.
> AFAIK, 64 is mean stream today.
> How much memory do you have installed?
> If more than 4G you have to use adm64 to fully use it.
> I'd prefer amd64 if possible,
> 
> Helmut.
> 
> 
> 

I don't see any address size but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep size I
get casche size 256 KB and clflush size 64.  The laptop has 4G of memory.





Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-08 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12/08/10 12:25:23, dhk wrote:
> I have a laptop which has an AMD Athlon Neo X2 L335 2.2GHz Dual Core
> processor on it and I'd like to know which architecture (handbook and
> livecd) to use.
> 
> The handbook choices are:  x86, sparc, amd64, ppc, ppc64, alpha, 
> hppa,
> mips, ia64, arm.  I'm guessing the x86, but I's like to be sure.
> 

x86 will do for sure.
But you can check

cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "address sizes" 

If it shows more than 32 bits (e.g. 48 bits)
then you could use amd64, as well.
AFAIK, 64 is mean stream today.
How much memory do you have installed?
If more than 4G you have to use adm64 to fully use it.
I'd prefer amd64 if possible,

Helmut.




Re: [gentoo-user] Which architecture ???

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Hampicke
> I have a laptop which has an AMD Athlon Neo X2 L335 2.2GHz Dual Core
> processor on it and I'd like to know which architecture (handbook and
> livecd) to use.

The Athlon Neo X2 is a x86 processor with amd64 support. So you can
either chose x86 or amd64 (if you'd like to run a 64bit system).