Re: [gentoo-user] Why has xmms been killed suddenly?

2006-10-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:43:03 +1000, Ric de France wrote:

  emerge --unmerge xmms (and xmms-plugins and accesoires)  
 
 Can I slide in a emerge --depclean in here?

No.

  emerge --newuse --deep world

No, put it here. depclean's output recommends running it after emerge -uavDN 
world


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Re: [gentoo-user] Why has xmms been killed suddenly?

2006-10-24 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 09:08, local account for liebichw wrote:
 Hi,
 I've been using xmms for the last ... n years :-) (b/c it was reasonably
 simple, allowed control via xmms-shell, too  didn't pull in too much
 (ok, except gtk 1 - which is a nuisance). Why the sudden death?

it death was not sudden.

It is dead for years. Last release was two and a half year ago. It devs ceased 
any developing. It depends on a toolkit, that is dead too. Security problems 
and other bugs were not patched anymore. No maintainace release, nothing.

It is full of bugs (-r16 should have told you, that there are lots of probs), 
there are lots of open bugs in the gentoo bugzilla that are so old, that they 
started to have children, saw them grow up, got to school, finish school, 
marry and have little bug children themselves.

In short: it was hardly maintainable anymore and nobody stepped up to do it 
anyway.

And there is a rule about unmaintained packages with dead upstream and working 
successors: they get killed.

Everybody who reads gentoo-dev once in a while knew, that this day would 
come - and nobody should really be surprised.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why has xmms been killed suddenly?

2006-10-24 Thread Dale
local account for liebichw wrote:
 Hi,
 I've been using xmms for the last ... n years :-) (b/c it was reasonably
 simple, allowed control via xmms-shell, too  didn't pull in too much
 (ok, except gtk 1 - which is a nuisance). Why the sudden death?
 Puzzled,
 Wolfgang

From what I have read here, it is no longer being supported upstream.
Some have said they are moving to amarok, which I am downloading on this
slow as crap dial-up right now.

http://amarok.kde.org/

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why has xmms been killed suddenly?

2006-10-24 Thread Bira

On 10/24/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

local account for liebichw wrote:
From what I have read here, it is no longer being supported upstream.
Some have said they are moving to amarok, which I am downloading on this
slow as crap dial-up right now.

http://amarok.kde.org/

Hope that helps.

Dale


Another alternative, which is very similar to XMMS, is Audacious. It's
a fork from Beep Media Player, which in turn was a fork of XMMS. It
uses GTK2, and its user interface is very similar to XMMS's but with a
prettier skin.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why has xmms been killed suddenly?

2006-10-24 Thread Mark Shields
On 10/24/06, Bira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/24/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: local account for liebichw wrote: From what I have read here, it is no longer being supported upstream. Some have said they are moving to amarok, which I am downloading on this
 slow as crap dial-up right now. http://amarok.kde.org/ Hope that helps. DaleAnother alternative, which is very similar to XMMS, is Audacious. It's
a fork from Beep Media Player, which in turn was a fork of XMMS. Ituses GTK2, and its user interface is very similar to XMMS's but with aprettier skin.--Bira
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Here's another vote for Audacious. While it still has a long way to go before it's as featured as Winamp (2.x winamp), it's still much nicer than XMMS.-- - Mark Shields


Re: [gentoo-user] Why has xmms been killed suddenly?

2006-10-24 Thread Ric de France

On 24/10/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And there is a rule about unmaintained packages with dead upstream and working
successors: they get killed.

Everybody who reads gentoo-dev once in a while knew, that this day would
come - and nobody should really be surprised.


It appears that the ebuild has been deleted off the portage tree...
What would be the safe way to remove this and to move to another
player? Does emerge -C xmms still work?

...Ric
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why has xmms been killed suddenly?

2006-10-24 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 02:48, Ric de France wrote:
 On 24/10/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  And there is a rule about unmaintained packages with dead upstream and
  working successors: they get killed.
 
  Everybody who reads gentoo-dev once in a while knew, that this day would
  come - and nobody should really be surprised.

 It appears that the ebuild has been deleted off the portage tree...
 What would be the safe way to remove this and to move to another
 player? Does emerge -C xmms still work?

yes it does. When you emerge something, a copy of the ebuild is stored 
in /var/db/pkg/category/nameofapp/

(if you want to 'rescue ebuilds of removed but installed packages, just copy 
them).

a safe way:
emerge --unmerge xmms (and xmms-plugins and accesoires)

emerge --newuse --deep world

emerge playerofchoice
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why has xmms been killed suddenly?

2006-10-24 Thread Ric de France

Thanks for that but one query...

On 25/10/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yes it does. When you emerge something, a copy of the ebuild is stored
in /var/db/pkg/category/nameofapp/

(if you want to 'rescue ebuilds of removed but installed packages, just copy
them).

a safe way:
emerge --unmerge xmms (and xmms-plugins and accesoires)


Can I slide in a emerge --depclean in here?


emerge --newuse --deep world

emerge playerofchoice


...Ric
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