Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:08:26 +0100, Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote: Hi all, I have no xorg.conf, so hal does all the conf stuff for me. My problem (I think) is that I have both modules in my sytem: [I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers $ grep nv /etc/make.conf VIDEO_CARDS=vesa nvidia and seems that Xorg tries some drivers and finally loads nv driver: from less /var/log/Xorg.0.log, some relevant info: [..] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0221:: nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] rev 161, Mem [...] (II) LoadModule: glx (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 180.60 Tue May 12 12:42:34 PDT 2009 [...] (II) LoadModule: dri (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri (II) UnloadModule: dri (EE) Failed to load module dri (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: dri2 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri2 (II) UnloadModule: dri2 (EE) Failed to load module dri2 (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: nv (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so (II) Module nv: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 2.1.14 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) LoadModule: vesa (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so (II) Module vesa: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 2.2.1 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) LoadModule: fbdev (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev (II) UnloadModule: fbdev (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0) (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, [...] (II) NV(0): Initializing int10 (II) NV(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (--) NV(0): Chipset: GeForce 6200 (II) NV(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section Builtin Default nv Screen 0 for depth/fbbpp 24/32 (==) NV(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) NV(0): RGB weight 888 (==) NV(0): Default visual is TrueColor [...] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) [...] from here all refers to NV. Am Iworng or my xorg uses nv driver? if so, how may I force hal to use nvidia driver? what about dri module? why is it failling to load it? This is only one of the reasons (only one of them) why hal in X is as useless as it can get: if you use any driver that's not provided by the Xorg guys then you still need an xorg.conf. About dri, I don't think nv supports dri at all. It certainly doesn't do any 3d. -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:52:45 +0100, =?UTF-8?Q?Jes=C3=BAs_Guerrero?= wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:08:26 +0100, Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote: Am Iworng or my xorg uses nv driver? if so, how may I force hal to use nvidia driver? what about dri module? why is it failling to load it? This is only one of the reasons (only one of them) why hal in X is as useless as it can get: if you use any driver that's not provided by the Xorg guys then you still need an xorg.conf. True, but it doesn't need much in it. I'm not generally a hal apologist, but I'm quite happy with this as my entire xorg.conf: Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation EndSection -- Peter Haworth p...@edison.ioppublishing.com It's about time we got some GUI sugar to add to the bitter black hotness of our terminal windows. I like my terminals like my women: VT100 compatible with Tektronix extensions -- NTK 2004-09-17 This email (and attachments) are confidential and intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender, delete any copies and do not take action in reliance on it. Any views expressed are the author's and do not represent those of IOP, except where specifically stated. IOP takes reasonable precautions to protect against viruses but accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from virus infection. For the protection of IOP's systems and staff emails are scanned automatically.” Institute of Physics Registered in England under Registration No 293851 Registered Office: 76/78 Portland Place, London W1B 1NT
Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:17:15 + Peter Haworth wrote: [...] This is only one of the reasons (only one of them) why hal in X is as useless as it can get: if you use any driver that's not provided by the Xorg guys then you still need an xorg.conf. True, but it doesn't need much in it. I'm not generally a hal apologist, but I'm quite happy with this as my entire xorg.conf: Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation EndSection Will try eth this. Thanks! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:17:15 + Peter Haworth wrote: On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:52:45 +0100, =?UTF-8?Q?Jes=C3=BAs_Guerrero?= wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:08:26 +0100, Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote: Am Iworng or my xorg uses nv driver? if so, how may I force hal to use nvidia driver? what about dri module? why is it failling to load it? This is only one of the reasons (only one of them) why hal in X is as useless as it can get: if you use any driver that's not provided by the Xorg guys then you still need an xorg.conf. True, but it doesn't need much in it. I'm not generally a hal apologist, but I'm quite happy with this as my entire xorg.conf: Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation EndSection tried with only that section, it hangs and had to reboot X was really slow and log showed errors like: (II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized AGP GART. (II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized AGP GART. (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode nvidia-auto-select (II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Device reopened after 1 attempts. (II) Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard: Device reopened after 1 attempts. (II) Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard: Device reopened after 1 attempts. (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 7, 0x8000, 0xd384, 0xd384) (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 7, 0x8000, 0xd3a8, 0xd3a8) (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 7, 0x8000, 0xd3cc, 0xd3cc) (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 7, 0x8000, 0xd3f0, 0xd3f0) (II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized AGP GART. So, I'll stay with nv or try xorg with no hal support. Thanks for your replies! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
Arnau Bria wrote: or try xorg with no hal support. Thanks for your replies! I can tell you that using xorg without hal works. I gave up on hal a while back. If you want to know how to get rid of hal support, just let us know or search the archives. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
Arnau Bria writes: On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:17:15 + Peter Haworth wrote: Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation EndSection tried with only that section, it hangs and had to reboot Did you try the being-mentioned-here-quite-often-these-days-of-X-trouble trick of Alt-SysRq-R, followed by Ctrl-Alt-F1? So, I'll stay with nv or try xorg with no hal support. I have hal support in it, but also still keyboard and mouse sections in xorg.conf. I also have Option AutoAddDevices false Option AllowEmptyInput false in the ServerLayout section to make them still work. so I can easier switch between using and not using HAL for devices than by re-compiling with changes USE flags. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:34:06 -0600 Dale Dale wrote: I can tell you that using xorg without hal works. I gave up on hal a while back. If you want to know how to get rid of hal support, just let us know or search the archives. Well, I did a quick serach with [xorg without hal] or no hal support and other and got many results... do you remember subject on that threat? any link to a guide? Dale Thanks Dale! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
tried with only that section, it hangs and had to reboot Did you try the being-mentioned-here-quite-often-these-days-of-X-trouble trick of Alt-SysRq-R, followed by Ctrl-Alt-F1? nop, did not remeber key combination, but I don't care if I have to reboot, not the issue in this topic. I have hal support in it, but also still keyboard and mouse sections in xorg.conf. I also have Option AutoAddDevices false Option AllowEmptyInput false in the ServerLayout section to make them still work. so I can easier switch between using and not using HAL for devices than by re-compiling with changes USE flags. Ok, but if I have to add input section and nvidia section, what profit do I take from hal? I prefer having my weel know xorg file :-) Wonko thanks for your reply, Arnau -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
Arnau Bria writes: I have hal support in it, but also still keyboard and mouse sections in xorg.conf. I also have Option AutoAddDevices false Option AllowEmptyInput false in the ServerLayout section to make them still work. so I can easier switch between using and not using HAL for devices than by re-compiling with changes USE flags. Ok, but if I have to add input section and nvidia section, what profit do I take from hal? I prefer having my weel know xorg file :-) Probably no much, apart from having not to put -hal in package.use. Maybe the detection of your monitor is improved. I heard that switching resolutions with Ctrl-Alt-+/- is also faster now (seems to be true here), but that might also be related to the new X.org, not HAL. And it's easier to try HAL again on the fly, without having to re-build xorg with changed USE flag. If you decide to drop it completely from X.org, and never try again, just remove it with -hal use flag. Some day HAL will be replaced by devicekit anyway, but that may take a while to happen. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] hal, how to chose between nvidia and nv
Dale schrieb: Arnau Bria wrote: or try xorg with no hal support. Thanks for your replies! I can tell you that using xorg without hal works. I gave up on hal a while back. If you want to know how to get rid of hal support, just let us know or search the archives. I would also like to know ... oh yes.
