Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Paige Thompson]

On 10/04/14 16:26, behrouz khosravi wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> I was wondering if anyone has tried KDE5?
> Do you know when it's going to be placed in the main tree?
>
> thanks
I'm using the layman repo (plasma 5 live) once you get it setup and
working its pretty awesome.

http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/Overlay

You can probably also get some questions answered in #gentoo-kde on
freenode.

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Paige Thompson]

On 10/04/14 16:26, behrouz khosravi wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> I was wondering if anyone has tried KDE5?
> Do you know when it's going to be placed in the main tree?
>
> thanks
before you even mess around with that though I suggest taking kde and/or
setting -kde in your make.conf use flags. start using package.use and
linking things to kde on a case by case basis.

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Pavel Volkov]

On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:

I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months, I get along
just fine with firefox and chromium. I believe konqueror is essentially
unmaintained these days or at least on life support. Make a fine file
manager though (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better 

ideas)

I think there was a tendency to replace Konqueror with rekonq in KDE-based 
distros.

Can somebody comment on how rekonq is doing?

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Pavel Volkov]

On Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:37:04 PM MSK, Michael Palimaka wrote:

The KDE release structure has evolved[1], decoupling the release cycle
of the Platform, Workspace, and Applications. This means that there is
no longer a single Software Compilation in the same way there was with
KDE 4.

We (Gentoo KDE team) have not yet made a decision as to when the Plasma
5 Workspace will be pushed to the main tree. I've been using it on a
daily basis for about six months, and consider the next release (5.1.0)
to be a good candidate for the main tree.

The underlying Platform (KDE Frameworks 5) upon which Plasma 5 is built
is expected in the main tree in about a week, after the 5.3.0 release.


I think KDE Application 5 haven't been released yet (at least I don't 
remember seeing the news). Are you going to package old applications with 
Frameworks 5 and Plasma 5?

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Philip Webb]

141007 Pavel Volkov wrote:
> On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months,
>> I get along just fine with Firefox and Chromium.
>> I believe Konqueror is essentially unmaintained these days
>> or at least on life support. Make a fine file manager though
>> (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)
> I think there was a tendency to replace Konqueror with rekonq
> in KDE-based distros.  Can somebody comment on how rekonq is doing?

I dropped Konqueror as an alternative browser recently
after it refused to accept every URL as malformed.
Rekonq is an adequate replacement + Firefox for regular use ;
I also use Lynx when I want text copies of WWW dox.
My window manager is Fluxbox.

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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Mick]

On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 15:48:33 Philip Webb wrote:
> 141007 Pavel Volkov wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months,
> >> I get along just fine with Firefox and Chromium.
> >> I believe Konqueror is essentially unmaintained these days
> >> or at least on life support. Make a fine file manager though
> >> (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)
> > 
> > I think there was a tendency to replace Konqueror with rekonq
> > in KDE-based distros.  Can somebody comment on how rekonq is doing?
> 
> I dropped Konqueror as an alternative browser recently
> after it refused to accept every URL as malformed.
> Rekonq is an adequate replacement + Firefox for regular use ;
> I also use Lynx when I want text copies of WWW dox.
> My window manager is Fluxbox.

I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and occasionally 
as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to use WebKit as its 
browser engine instead of KHTML.

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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Philip Webb]

141007 Mick wrote:
> On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> Konqueror ... makes a fine file manager
> I still use Konqueror as file manager ...

I strongly recommend Krusader as file manager,
tho' it has only minimal development support.

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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[J. Roeleveld]

On Tuesday, October 07, 2014 04:20:16 PM Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 15:48:33 Philip Webb wrote:
> > 141007 Pavel Volkov wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > >> I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months,
> > >> I get along just fine with Firefox and Chromium.
> > >> I believe Konqueror is essentially unmaintained these days
> > >> or at least on life support. Make a fine file manager though
> > >> (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)
> > > 
> > > I think there was a tendency to replace Konqueror with rekonq
> > > in KDE-based distros.  Can somebody comment on how rekonq is 
doing?
> > 
> > I dropped Konqueror as an alternative browser recently
> > after it refused to accept every URL as malformed.
> > Rekonq is an adequate replacement + Firefox for regular use ;
> > I also use Lynx when I want text copies of WWW dox.
> > My window manager is Fluxbox.
> 
> I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
> occasionally as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to use
> WebKit as its browser engine instead of KHTML.

Why not use Dolphin as file manager?

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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Daniel Frey]

On 10/07/2014 11:26 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> 
> Why not use Dolphin as file manager?
> 

Dolphin is pretty buggy. I've found a few and one repeats itself
frequently. I'm pretty sure I found an existing bug for the issue, but
it's been happening to me since 4.0.

(When viewing things in tree view and you expand a folder, Dolphin
randomly decides to select everything from the top of the tree to where
you clicked to expand the folder. I still don't know what causes it as
it happens intermittently. It sure is annoying though.)

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:26:42 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:

> > I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
> > occasionally as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to use
> > WebKit as its browser engine instead of KHTML.  
> 
> Why not use Dolphin as file manager?

Because neither it nor Krusader is anywhere near as flexible. I still
consider the introduction of Dolphin to be a major backwards step of KDE4.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Mick]

On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 21:18:04 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:26:42 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
> > > occasionally as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to use
> > > WebKit as its browser engine instead of KHTML.
> > 
> > Why not use Dolphin as file manager?
> 
> Because neither it nor Krusader is anywhere near as flexible. I still
> consider the introduction of Dolphin to be a major backwards step of KDE4.

I agree with Neil.  I can't really see what Dolphin offers that Konqueror 
didn't already have.  Of course, with KDE4 you *have* to install Dolphin to 
get Konqueror to do what it always did.  No point in me dissing KDE4 devs for 
they inspired executive decisions (pissing many of their existing user base 
off and not really attracting any new punters along) because others have 
already covered this admirably, but you get the gist.
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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[J. Roeleveld]

On Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:20:27 PM Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 10/07/2014 11:26 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > Why not use Dolphin as file manager?
> 
> Dolphin is pretty buggy. I've found a few and one repeats itself
> frequently. I'm pretty sure I found an existing bug for the issue, but
> it's been happening to me since 4.0.
> 
> (When viewing things in tree view and you expand a folder, Dolphin
> randomly decides to select everything from the top of the tree to where
> you clicked to expand the folder. I still don't know what causes it as
> it happens intermittently. It sure is annoying though.)

Are you talking about the behaviour when you actually click on the 
foldername, instead of the " > " ?
If yes, then that is as designed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[J. Roeleveld]

On Tuesday, October 07, 2014 09:18:04 PM Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:26:42 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
> > > occasionally as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to 
use
> > > WebKit as its browser engine instead of KHTML.
> > 
> > Why not use Dolphin as file manager?
> 
> Because neither it nor Krusader is anywhere near as flexible. I still
> consider the introduction of Dolphin to be a major backwards step of 
KDE4.

I think that's personal preference.
I like Dolphin as it allows me to quickly switch to network shares (of 
different types) from the left of the window.

Konqueror only shows the files and folders, not the "Places". And I haven't 
found an option to add those (or something similar)

How do I configure Konqueror to give me a similar view?

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Mick]

On Wednesday 08 Oct 2014 05:46:40 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 07, 2014 09:18:04 PM Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:26:42 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > > I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
> > > > occasionally as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to
> 
> use
> 
> > > > WebKit as its browser engine instead of KHTML.
> > > 
> > > Why not use Dolphin as file manager?
> > 
> > Because neither it nor Krusader is anywhere near as flexible. I still
> > consider the introduction of Dolphin to be a major backwards step of
> 
> KDE4.
> 
> I think that's personal preference.
> I like Dolphin as it allows me to quickly switch to network shares (of
> different types) from the left of the window.
> 
> Konqueror only shows the files and folders, not the "Places". And I haven't
> found an option to add those (or something similar)
> 
> How do I configure Konqueror to give me a similar view?
> 
> --
> Joost

Do you mean:

F9 to Show Sidebar, then right click on it, Configure/Add New/Places Sidebar 
Module?

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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Pavel Volkov]

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:32:48 AM MSK, Mick wrote:
I agree with Neil.  I can't really see what Dolphin offers that Konqueror 
didn't already have.  


It has Git and Mercurial plugins and split view.
Not that I actively use those features but Dolphin seems to be more 
responsive anyway.
For tasks like re-organizing home directory (sorting large quantity of 
files) both are inconvenient, I use Krusader for such things.

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[J. Roeleveld]

On Wednesday, October 08, 2014 06:29:13 AM Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 Oct 2014 05:46:40 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 07, 2014 09:18:04 PM Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:26:42 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > > > I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
> > > > > occasionally as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up 
to
> > 
> > use
> > 
> > > > > WebKit as its browser engine instead of KHTML.
> > > > 
> > > > Why not use Dolphin as file manager?
> > > 
> > > Because neither it nor Krusader is anywhere near as flexible. I still
> > > consider the introduction of Dolphin to be a major backwards step 
of
> > 
> > KDE4.
> > 
> > I think that's personal preference.
> > I like Dolphin as it allows me to quickly switch to network shares (of
> > different types) from the left of the window.
> > 
> > Konqueror only shows the files and folders, not the "Places". And I
> > haven't
> > found an option to add those (or something similar)
> > 
> > How do I configure Konqueror to give me a similar view?
> > 
> > --
> > Joost
> 
> Do you mean:
> 
> F9 to Show Sidebar, then right click on it, Configure/Add New/Places 
Sidebar
> Module?

Yes, but I miss the quick overview.
With the file-indexing of semantic desktop enabled, I also get the history 
and quick searches for filetypes.

It does help with a lot of files.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[J. Roeleveld]

On Wednesday, October 08, 2014 10:45:47 AM Pavel Volkov wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:32:48 AM MSK, Mick wrote:
> > I agree with Neil.  I can't really see what Dolphin offers that Konqueror
> > didn't already have.
> 
> It has Git and Mercurial plugins and split view.
> Not that I actively use those features but Dolphin seems to be more
> responsive anyway.
> For tasks like re-organizing home directory (sorting large quantity of
> files) both are inconvenient, I use Krusader for such things.

I tend to use a combination of Dolphin and MC (console-based)

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:45:47 +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote:

> > I agree with Neil.  I can't really see what Dolphin offers that
> > Konqueror didn't already have.
> 
> It has Git and Mercurial plugins and split view.
> Not that I actively use those features but Dolphin seems to be more 
> responsive anyway.

If those are implemented using KParts, they will be available to
Konqueror in file manager mode too.


-- 
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"He's dead, Jim.  You get his phaser, I'll grab his wallet."


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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Daniel Frey]

On 10/07/2014 09:42 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> Are you talking about the behaviour when you actually click on the
> foldername, instead of the " > " ?
> 
> If yes, then that is as designed.
> 

No, I'm clicking on the " > ". Sometimes I've expanded folders three to
four levels deep and so it selects completely unrelated folders and
files, as it selects everything from where I've clicked to the top of
the list.

It's really annoying, do you know if that "feature" be turned off?

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Francisco Ares]

2014-10-07 12:20 GMT-03:00 Mick :

> On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 15:48:33 Philip Webb wrote:
> > 141007 Pavel Volkov wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > >> I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months,
> > >> I get along just fine with Firefox and Chromium.
> > >> I believe Konqueror is essentially unmaintained these days
> > >> or at least on life support. Make a fine file manager though
> > >> (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)
> > >
> > > I think there was a tendency to replace Konqueror with rekonq
> > > in KDE-based distros.  Can somebody comment on how rekonq is doing?
> >
> > I dropped Konqueror as an alternative browser recently
> > after it refused to accept every URL as malformed.
> > Rekonq is an adequate replacement + Firefox for regular use ;
> > I also use Lynx when I want text copies of WWW dox.
> > My window manager is Fluxbox.
>
> I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
> occasionally
> as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to use WebKit as its
> browser engine instead of KHTML.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>


Hi,

How did you manage to get WebKit instead of KHTML?  On my version, I can
only see the last.

Thanks, and Best Regards,
Francisco

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 09/10/2014 19:44, Francisco Ares wrote:
> 
> 2014-10-07 12:20 GMT-03:00 Mick  >:
> 
> On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 15:48:33 Philip Webb wrote:
> > 141007 Pavel Volkov wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > >> I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months,
> > >> I get along just fine with Firefox and Chromium.
> > >> I believe Konqueror is essentially unmaintained these days
> > >> or at least on life support. Make a fine file manager though
> > >> (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)
> > >
> > > I think there was a tendency to replace Konqueror with rekonq
> > > in KDE-based distros.  Can somebody comment on how rekonq is doing?
> >
> > I dropped Konqueror as an alternative browser recently
> > after it refused to accept every URL as malformed.
> > Rekonq is an adequate replacement + Firefox for regular use ;
> > I also use Lynx when I want text copies of WWW dox.
> > My window manager is Fluxbox.
> 
> I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
> occasionally
> as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to use WebKit as its
> browser engine instead of KHTML.
> 
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How did you manage to get WebKit instead of KHTML?  On my version, I can
> only see the last.
> 
> Thanks, and Best Regards,
> Francisco


I set this up so long ago I forget exactly how I did it. IIRC it's as
simple as

emerge kde-misc/kwebkitpart
konqueror menu -> View -> View Mode

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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am 09.10.2014 um 21:38 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On 09/10/2014 19:44, Francisco Ares wrote:
>> 2014-10-07 12:20 GMT-03:00 Mick > >:
>>
>> On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 15:48:33 Philip Webb wrote:
>> > 141007 Pavel Volkov wrote:
>> > > On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> > >> I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months,
>> > >> I get along just fine with Firefox and Chromium.
>> > >> I believe Konqueror is essentially unmaintained these days
>> > >> or at least on life support. Make a fine file manager though
>> > >> (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)
>> > >
>> > > I think there was a tendency to replace Konqueror with rekonq
>> > > in KDE-based distros.  Can somebody comment on how rekonq is doing?
>> >
>> > I dropped Konqueror as an alternative browser recently
>> > after it refused to accept every URL as malformed.
>> > Rekonq is an adequate replacement + Firefox for regular use ;
>> > I also use Lynx when I want text copies of WWW dox.
>> > My window manager is Fluxbox.
>>
>> I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
>> occasionally
>> as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to use WebKit as its
>> browser engine instead of KHTML.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How did you manage to get WebKit instead of KHTML?  On my version, I can
>> only see the last.
>>
>> Thanks, and Best Regards,
>> Francisco
>
> I set this up so long ago I forget exactly how I did it. IIRC it's as
> simple as
>
> emerge kde-misc/kwebkitpart
> konqueror menu -> View -> View Mode
>
last time I tried webkit it broke websites in interessting ways.

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Mick]

On Thursday 09 Oct 2014 21:01:02 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am 09.10.2014 um 21:38 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > On 09/10/2014 19:44, Francisco Ares wrote:
> >> 2014-10-07 12:20 GMT-03:00 Mick  >> 
> >> >:
> >> On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 15:48:33 Philip Webb wrote:
> >> > 141007 Pavel Volkov wrote:
> >> > > On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> > >> I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months,
> >> > >> I get along just fine with Firefox and Chromium.
> >> > >> I believe Konqueror is essentially unmaintained these days
> >> > >> or at least on life support. Make a fine file manager though
> >> > >> (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)
> >> > > 
> >> > > I think there was a tendency to replace Konqueror with rekonq
> >> > > in KDE-based distros.  Can somebody comment on how rekonq is
> >> > > doing?
> >> > 
> >> > I dropped Konqueror as an alternative browser recently
> >> > after it refused to accept every URL as malformed.
> >> > Rekonq is an adequate replacement + Firefox for regular use ;
> >> > I also use Lynx when I want text copies of WWW dox.
> >> > My window manager is Fluxbox.
> >> 
> >> I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
> >> occasionally
> >> as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to use WebKit as
> >> its browser engine instead of KHTML.
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Mick
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> How did you manage to get WebKit instead of KHTML?  On my version, I can
> >> only see the last.
> >> 
> >> Thanks, and Best Regards,
> >> Francisco
> > 
> > I set this up so long ago I forget exactly how I did it. IIRC it's as
> > simple as
> > 
> > emerge kde-misc/kwebkitpart
> > konqueror menu -> View -> View Mode
> 
> last time I tried webkit it broke websites in interessting ways.

Yes, it is not a panacea.  Some websites cause Konqueror to crash.  It just 
crashes less often than when I use KHTML.  :-)

I thought I had USE=webkit enabled somewhere and that's what brought it in, 
but now I see that it isn't set:

[-  ] webkit
kde-base/kget: Enable KdeWebkit browser plugin using 
kde-misc/kwebkitpart
[-  ] (4/4.12) 4.12.5 [gentoo]
[-  ] (4/4.13) 4.13.3 [gentoo]
[-  ] (4/4.14) 4.14.0 [gentoo]
[-  ] (4/4.14) 4.14.1 [gentoo]

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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[J. Roeleveld]

On Wednesday, October 08, 2014 08:32:53 PM Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 10/07/2014 09:42 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > Are you talking about the behaviour when you actually click on the
> > foldername, instead of the " > " ?
> > 
> > If yes, then that is as designed.
> 
> No, I'm clicking on the " > ". Sometimes I've expanded folders three to
> four levels deep and so it selects completely unrelated folders and
> files, as it selects everything from where I've clicked to the top of
> the list.
> 
> It's really annoying, do you know if that "feature" be turned off?
> 
> Dan

What do you mean with "select"
Do all the entries become selected (marked) ready for delete/copy/...?

I have seen this behaviour in a lot of different programs (also on MS Windows). 
Usually caused by some key-combination which is accidentally pressed and 
forces the shift-key to be "locked".

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Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Daniel Frey]

On 10/13/2014 10:50 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> 
> What do you mean with "select"
> Do all the entries become selected (marked) ready for delete/copy/...?

Yes. It's been doing this since I upgraded to KDE4 with Dolphin. KDE3
was perfectly fine.

> I have seen this behaviour in a lot of different programs (also on MS 
> Windows). 
> Usually caused by some key-combination which is accidentally pressed and 
> forces the shift-key to be "locked".

I thought that but it isn't the case. I am using this particular install
through spawning VNC sessions on my server. As I said, KDE3 did not have
this issue at all (used with the exact same VNC setup), nor does it
present itself in apps other than Dolphin.

Strange, huh?

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 14/10/2014 21:22, Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 10/13/2014 10:50 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>
>> What do you mean with "select"
>> Do all the entries become selected (marked) ready for delete/copy/...?
> 
> Yes. It's been doing this since I upgraded to KDE4 with Dolphin. KDE3
> was perfectly fine.
> 
>> I have seen this behaviour in a lot of different programs (also on MS 
>> Windows). 
>> Usually caused by some key-combination which is accidentally pressed and 
>> forces the shift-key to be "locked".
> 
> I thought that but it isn't the case. I am using this particular install
> through spawning VNC sessions on my server. As I said, KDE3 did not have
> this issue at all (used with the exact same VNC setup), nor does it
> present itself in apps other than Dolphin.
> 
> Strange, huh?


Not really strange - I got something similar with dolphin too.

I use NFS mounts in dolphin a lot (not using the built-in nfs kpart,
it's a traditional mount). Double clicking through on folder names would
often select everything from where the cursor landed to the top of what
is shown in the dolphin window. F5 refresh, or Alt-left and Alt-right
wouldn't change anything (I assume some caching is involved). But,
clicking away from the current pane to some other folder outside the nfs
mount, then re-navigating back to it would make the issue go away.

I keep this ~amd64 system quite current (update twice weekly or so) and
haven't run into this again for about 6 weeks now. Looks like someone
fixed something, in whole or in part.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

[Daniel Frey]

On 10/14/2014 01:16 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
> Not really strange - I got something similar with dolphin too.
> 
> I use NFS mounts in dolphin a lot (not using the built-in nfs kpart,
> it's a traditional mount). Double clicking through on folder names would
> often select everything from where the cursor landed to the top of what
> is shown in the dolphin window. F5 refresh, or Alt-left and Alt-right
> wouldn't change anything (I assume some caching is involved). But,
> clicking away from the current pane to some other folder outside the nfs
> mount, then re-navigating back to it would make the issue go away.

This is exactly the issue I have but it isn't with an NFS mount, it's
with a mount to my raid device (actual full 3ware RAID card, not a
fakeraid.)

> 
> I keep this ~amd64 system quite current (update twice weekly or so) and
> haven't run into this again for about 6 weeks now. Looks like someone
> fixed something, in whole or in part.
> 
> 

I don't update that often, generally once a month I update. Maybe sooner
than that, but not once a week. I usually exclude mythtv until I have
enough time to upgrade the backend and all frontends at the same time,
but I am going to have to do a full update including mythtv really soon
as Tribune (and as such, schedulesdirect) do not offer the old XML TV
listings as of November 1. Sigh...

That aside, when I do this major update on all of my PCs maybe the issue
will finally go away.

Dan