Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: > Hello, > > I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is > switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet > cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally > so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de > Almeida did opine thusly: > >> Hello, >> >> I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is >> switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet >> cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally >> so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. > > > Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. > > Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do -> emerge -vp wicd I get These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE="nls -multicall" 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE="-doc -examples -test" 483 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE="-examples" 233 kB [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE="X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils (-ioctl) -libnotify" 402 kB Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it to configure my wireless net right? I am asking this because I am using wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use one or the other. Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of ifplugd? Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:34 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: > On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor > > de > > > > Almeida did opine thusly: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is > >> switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet > >> cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally > >> so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. > > > > Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. > > Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do > > -> emerge -vp wicd > > I get > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE="nls -multicall" 0 kB > [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE="-doc -examples > -test" 483 kB > [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE="-examples" 233 kB > [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB > [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE="X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils > (-ioctl) -libnotify" 402 kB > > Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB > > which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it > to configure my wireless net right? You are going to take the entirety of net.* except net.lo as installed by baselayout/openrc/whatever and get rid of it. That stuff never worked right for anything except servers with fixed IPs > I am asking this because I am using > wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use > one or the other. Discard /etc/conf.d/net That's part of the thing you are getting rid of > > Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of > ifplugd? Yes. Just following the wicd docs and it will all work just fine -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 12/12/2010 04:46 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:34 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de > Almeida did opine thusly: > >> On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor >>> de >>> >>> Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. >>> >>> Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. >> >> Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do >> >> -> emerge -vp wicd >> >> I get >> >> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: >> >> Calculating dependencies... done! >> [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE="nls -multicall" 0 kB >> [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE="-doc -examples >> -test" 483 kB >> [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE="-examples" 233 kB >> [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB >> [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE="X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils >> (-ioctl) -libnotify" 402 kB >> >> Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB >> >> which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it >> to configure my wireless net right? > > You are going to take the entirety of net.* except net.lo as installed by > baselayout/openrc/whatever and get rid of it. That stuff never worked right > for anything except servers with fixed IPs > >> I am asking this because I am using >> wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use >> one or the other. > > Discard /etc/conf.d/net > > That's part of the thing you are getting rid of > >> >> Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of >> ifplugd? > > Yes. > > Just following the wicd docs and it will all work just fine > Thank you very much. I don't know how this magic is happening since I had posted another message in this list on problems with wpa_supplicant and frequent dropouts during connection. I am now sending this e-mail with a wireless connection. For the record, what I had to do was: emerge --unmerge ifplugd wpa_supplicant rm /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf rm /etc/conf.d/net touch /etc/conf.d/net rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 rm /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 emerge -av wicd emerge wicd /etc/init.d/wicd start rc-update add wicd boot reboot and check wired connection. disconnect, turn on wireless wicd-client -n Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Monday 13 December 2010 07:05:20 Valmor de Almeida wrote: > On 12/12/2010 04:46 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:34 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor > > de > > > > Almeida did opine thusly: > >> On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, > >>> Valmor de > >>> > >>> Almeida did opine thusly: > Hello, > > I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is > switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet > cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally > so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. > >>> > >>> Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. > >> > >> Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do > >> > >> -> emerge -vp wicd > >> > >> I get > >> > >> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > >> > >> Calculating dependencies... done! > >> [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE="nls -multicall" 0 > >> kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE="-doc > >> -examples -test" 483 kB > >> [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE="-examples" 233 kB > >> [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB > >> [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE="X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils > >> (-ioctl) -libnotify" 402 kB > >> > >> Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB > >> > >> which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it > >> to configure my wireless net right? > > > > You are going to take the entirety of net.* except net.lo as installed by > > baselayout/openrc/whatever and get rid of it. That stuff never worked > > right for anything except servers with fixed IPs > > > >> I am asking this because I am using > >> wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use > >> one or the other. > > > > Discard /etc/conf.d/net > > > > That's part of the thing you are getting rid of > > > >> Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of > >> ifplugd? > > > > Yes. > > > > Just following the wicd docs and it will all work just fine > > Thank you very much. I don't know how this magic is happening since I > had posted another message in this list on problems with wpa_supplicant > and frequent dropouts during connection. I am now sending this e-mail > with a wireless connection. For the record, what I had to do was: > > emerge --unmerge ifplugd wpa_supplicant > rm /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf > rm /etc/conf.d/net > touch /etc/conf.d/net > rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 > rm /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 > emerge -av wicd > > emerge wicd > /etc/init.d/wicd start > rc-update add wicd boot > > reboot and check wired connection. > disconnect, turn on wireless > wicd-client -n Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:26:22 +, Mick wrote: > Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? No, wpa_supplicant is a dependency of wicd. -- Neil Bothwick SCSI: System Can't See It signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 13 December 2010 09:04, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:26:22 +, Mick wrote: > >> Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? > > No, wpa_supplicant is a dependency of wicd. Right, I thought as much, but Valmor's removal of /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf through me out. Can wicd write to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 02:02:55PM +, Mick wrote: > Right, I thought as much, but Valmor's removal of > /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf through me out. > > Can wicd write to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? I don't know, but, then again, why would it need to? I know that wicd does write *somewhere* to save the settings. If it can call wpa_supplicant, it can also call it with the -c option if it needs to, no? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 12/13/2010 09:02 AM, Mick wrote: > On 13 December 2010 09:04, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:26:22 +, Mick wrote: >> >>> Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? >> >> No, wpa_supplicant is a dependency of wicd. > > Right, I thought as much, but Valmor's removal of > /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf through me out. > > Can wicd write to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? > I can't find it anywhere. So I guess no. On wireless right now. -- Valmor
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:02:55 +, Mick wrote: > >> Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without > >> wpa_supplicant? > > > > No, wpa_supplicant is a dependency of wicd. > > Right, I thought as much, but Valmor's removal of > /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf through me out. That wasn't necessary, but at l;east it made sure it wasn't in @world. > Can wicd write to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? I suppose it could if it really wanted to, but that would be a bit unkind if you were maintaining that file manually. Wicd keeps all its settings in /etc/wicd. -- Neil Bothwick Our bikinis are exciting. They are simply the tops. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
