Re: [gentoo-user] wiki software
Antoine wrote: Mediawiki also powers the following: http://gentoo-wiki.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/ Two very big-name sites! I haven't done any wiki editing or dev before - not ever having had the urge. At the moment the intranet is in pseudo-html (basically ie-only, with lots of doze file links, etc), and is about as standardised as apple pie. The problem is that there are only a few of us (basically the IT dept) that are brave enough to code the html (and I am the only one who even tries to make it valid), so no one else changes anything. All the others write word files, and then just put them in known directories. Basically we have to have a wisiwig environment for there to be any interest. Even minimal tags will be too much for some of the long-toothers in the company. I had a quick look at wikiwig, which looks pretty much like it fits the bill. Has anyone used it seriously? Maintained it? I just might be able to get Gentoo on one of our servers if I can get a really polished wisiwig interface that won't crash every ten minutes... having locking is also (now I think about it) going to be necessary (almost got subversion for the intranet, but the lack of locking was not a plus... I know you can do it with cvs but anyway). Thanks for the suggestions so far Cheers Antoine Plone/Zope, while a CMS instead of a wiki, does have a WYSIWYG editor (two, actually). You might have to disable some of the features, but the software's reasonably powerful and flexible. The one real problem with the WYSIWYG editor is that it requires a component in the browser - a component only present in Gecko (aka Mozilla) and MSIE. If the browser doesn't have the component, happy HTMLing. www-zope has all the Zope software from that is in the Gentoo repository. -Pingveno -- Linux User #340304 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wiki software
On 05/23/05 19:26, Ric de France wrote: On 5/24/05, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically we have to have a wisiwig environment for there to be any interest. Even minimal tags will be too much for some of the long-toothers in the company. I had a quick look at wikiwig, which looks pretty much like it fits the bill. Has anyone used it seriously? Maintained it? I just might be able to get Gentoo on one of our servers if I can get a really polished wisiwig interface that won't crash every ten minutes... having locking is also (now I think about it) going to be necessary (almost got subversion for the intranet, but the lack of locking was not a plus... I know you can do it with cvs but anyway). Unfortunately, wikipedia does not come with a WYSIWYG code editor. Saying that, the deployment I made was into an area where some people have not ever coded in HTML or wiki-markup, and there aren't many people that haven't picked it up in the space of about half a day. I'd be guessing it would take that long to pick up Openoffice.org Writer or MS Office Word if you have never used either application before. It is differrent, but it's not any more difficult. The editor comes with some buttons above the text entry box that markup the code that you highlight. Give it a go sometime. You can always edit a page on gentoo-wiki or wikipedia, and click on the preview button as many times as you like without it actually commiting to the database. HTH, ...Ric Or use the sandbox... URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wiki software
On 22/05/05, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am looking for wiki software to install for our company intranet and I see that twiki is masked. Is this not the main wiki software? What do others use? We would want the possibility to restrict write access but apart from that we are very flexible. What would be the lowest maintenace OSS software? Cheers Antoine What about www-apps/mediawiki? -- Joe -- Money can't buy everything. Sometimes money can't even buy a gun... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wiki software
Mediawiki also powers the following: http://gentoo-wiki.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/ Two very big-name sites! I haven't done any wiki editing or dev before - not ever having had the urge. At the moment the intranet is in pseudo-html (basically ie-only, with lots of doze file links, etc), and is about as standardised as apple pie. The problem is that there are only a few of us (basically the IT dept) that are brave enough to code the html (and I am the only one who even tries to make it valid), so no one else changes anything. All the others write word files, and then just put them in known directories. Basically we have to have a wisiwig environment for there to be any interest. Even minimal tags will be too much for some of the long-toothers in the company. I had a quick look at wikiwig, which looks pretty much like it fits the bill. Has anyone used it seriously? Maintained it? I just might be able to get Gentoo on one of our servers if I can get a really polished wisiwig interface that won't crash every ten minutes... having locking is also (now I think about it) going to be necessary (almost got subversion for the intranet, but the lack of locking was not a plus... I know you can do it with cvs but anyway). Thanks for the suggestions so far Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wiki software
On 5/24/05, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically we have to have a wisiwig environment for there to be any interest. Even minimal tags will be too much for some of the long-toothers in the company. I had a quick look at wikiwig, which looks pretty much like it fits the bill. Has anyone used it seriously? Maintained it? I just might be able to get Gentoo on one of our servers if I can get a really polished wisiwig interface that won't crash every ten minutes... having locking is also (now I think about it) going to be necessary (almost got subversion for the intranet, but the lack of locking was not a plus... I know you can do it with cvs but anyway). Unfortunately, wikipedia does not come with a WYSIWYG code editor. Saying that, the deployment I made was into an area where some people have not ever coded in HTML or wiki-markup, and there aren't many people that haven't picked it up in the space of about half a day. I'd be guessing it would take that long to pick up Openoffice.org Writer or MS Office Word if you have never used either application before. It is differrent, but it's not any more difficult. The editor comes with some buttons above the text entry box that markup the code that you highlight. Give it a go sometime. You can always edit a page on gentoo-wiki or wikipedia, and click on the preview button as many times as you like without it actually commiting to the database. HTH, ...Ric -- Ric de France Ph: +61412945554 (international) or 0412945554 (Australia) == Do you, uh... Gentoo? Gent-hooo!! == -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wiki software
On Mon, 23 May 2005, Antoine wrote: Basically we have to have a wisiwig environment for there to be any interest. Even minimal tags will be too much for some of the long-toothers in the company. I had a quick look at wikiwig, which looks pretty much like it fits the bill. Has anyone used it seriously? Maintained it? I just might be able to get Gentoo on one of our servers if I can get a really polished wisiwig interface that won't crash every ten minutes... having locking is also (now I think about it) going to be necessary (almost got subversion for the intranet, but the lack of locking was not a plus... I know you can do it with cvs but anyway). You dont need to know any markup language to edit a wiki especially not HTML. But you have the option of doing very simple markup using ordinary characters. For example, in phpwiki: *this *causes *each *line *to *be a *bullet *list gives you a bullet list. After a few mins playing around with the crib sheet it becomes pretty easy to work with. You dont really need any unstable WYSISYG editor. Phpwiki comes with help built-in. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wiki software
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Ric de France wrote: Unfortunately, wikipedia does not come with a WYSIWYG code editor. Saying that, the deployment I made was into an area where some people have not ever coded in HTML or wiki-markup, and there aren't many people that haven't picked it up in the space of about half a day. I'd be guessing it would take that long to pick up Openoffice.org Writer or MS Office Word if you have never used either application before. If it's internal deployment, there's a mediawiki toolbar plugin for firefox. -- That which does not kill me makes me stranger () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wiki software
On Sun, 22 May 2005 16:57:58 +0200 Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am looking for wiki software to install for our company intranet and I see that twiki is masked. Is this not the main wiki software? What do others use? We would want the possibility to restrict write access but apart from that we are very flexible. What would be the lowest maintenace OSS software? We've been using pmwiki for our group, no ebuild - http://www.pmwiki.org/ Pretty straight forward, no need for a database, easy to maintain. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
