Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading (profiles, too)

2019-05-31 Thread Jack

On 2019.05.31 11:49, n952...@web.de wrote:

> Gesendet: Freitag, 31. Mai 2019 um 00:02 Uhr
> Von: "Dale" 
> An: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading (profiles, too)
>
> Mick wrote:
> > On Thursday, 30 May 2019 02:18:01 BST Dale wrote:
 to do. 
>
> If I recall correctly, I did a merge -e world when I switched to  
17.0. 

> There are some things that I'd rather rebuild everything just to be
> sure.  When it is winter time, why not, I need the heat anyway.   
;-) 

>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>
>


Compiling is not the problem.  Knowing what USE and KEYWORD flags to  
set is what scares me.  At least those.  I get all these dire  
warnings from the system and I don't know what I did wrong.  I'm  
certainly not in the experimental class.  I try to do the most  
standard, stable things.
You may not have done anything wrong.  How dire an emerge warning is is  
up to interpretation.  One way I sometimes deal with an update that  
throws lots of warnings and requests to change masks or keywords or use  
flags is to look carefully at the list of packages that would be  
updated, and pick one, and just try to update that one.  I even  
sometimes find it easier to just "emerge -1 package" (instead of -u)  
because that seems less likely to try to include updates not needed for  
the package you selected.


Also - I don't think you ever said which (or at least how many)  
packages you already have in packages.keyword.  Often, having one  
package in that file (especially if it is not for a single version)  
will want testing versions of dependencies, so you either have to add  
those, or not use the testing version of the first package.


Portage asking for changes to USE flags is likely far less of an issue  
- sometimes packages are changed so that a dependency now requires a  
particular use flag setting which is not the default (or may be  
affected by some USE flag you have set (or unset) in make.conf.




Aw: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading (profiles, too)

2019-05-31 Thread n952162
> Gesendet: Freitag, 31. Mai 2019 um 00:02 Uhr
> Von: "Dale" 
> An: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading (profiles, too)
>
> Mick wrote:
> > On Thursday, 30 May 2019 02:18:01 BST Dale wrote:
 to do. 
> 
> If I recall correctly, I did a merge -e world when I switched to 17.0. 
> There are some things that I'd rather rebuild everything just to be
> sure.  When it is winter time, why not, I need the heat anyway.  ;-) 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> 


Compiling is not the problem.  Knowing what USE and KEYWORD flags to set is 
what scares me.  At least those.  I get all these dire warnings from the system 
and I don't know what I did wrong.  I'm certainly not in the experimental 
class.  I try to do the most standard, stable things.



Aw: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading (profiles, too)

2019-05-30 Thread n952162
that's a good libk, too

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2019 um 03:04 Uhr
> Von: "Adam Carter" 
> An: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Betreff: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading (profiles, too)
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:41 AM  wrote:
>
> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2019 um 00:20 Uhr
> > > Von: "Dale" 
> > > I've done upgrades that skip quite a ways using make oldconfig.  I've
> > > never had any issues.  If it were me, I'd just make the jump but make
> > > sure to keep the old kernel around just in case something doesn't work.
> > > At least that way one can boot it and fix it.
> >
> > good idea!
> > Is the kernel enough?  Don't you have to have the initrd, and the modules
> > list and all the modules and and and?
> >
> >
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade should help.
>
>
> >
> > > ...  Switch to the
> > > new17.1 profile, run emerge -puDN world and see if the changes look OK.
> > > If you don't like or it breaks something, switch to 17.0 and run emerge
> > > -puDN world and see what it looks like.  Pick the one that you feel
> > > safest with.  ...
> >
> > I haven't a clue what unsafe is...
> >
> > Pick the one that most closely matches your requirements.
>



Re: Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading (profiles, too)

2019-05-29 Thread Adam Carter
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:41 AM  wrote:

> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2019 um 00:20 Uhr
> > Von: "Dale" 
> > I've done upgrades that skip quite a ways using make oldconfig.  I've
> > never had any issues.  If it were me, I'd just make the jump but make
> > sure to keep the old kernel around just in case something doesn't work.
> > At least that way one can boot it and fix it.
>
> good idea!
> Is the kernel enough?  Don't you have to have the initrd, and the modules
> list and all the modules and and and?
>
>
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade should help.


>
> > ...  Switch to the
> > new17.1 profile, run emerge -puDN world and see if the changes look OK.
> > If you don't like or it breaks something, switch to 17.0 and run emerge
> > -puDN world and see what it looks like.  Pick the one that you feel
> > safest with.  ...
>
> I haven't a clue what unsafe is...
>
> Pick the one that most closely matches your requirements.