[geo] Re: patenting ideas

2008-12-24 Thread Eugene I. Gordon

Anyone with a geoengineering idea that seems potentially viable and
commecially valuable and who wishes to get funded by someone who has
commercial interest should not be discussing those ideas in this forum. They
are essentially published here and therefore anyone (first to file) can get
a patent worldwide but for the U.S. where first to invent is the 'inventor'.

In any case if you you do have an idea write it up in a bound notebook with
numbered pages, initial each page, sign and date at the end and get it
witnessed. That is the means to prove first to invent.

You can file a USPTO provisional patent to get the process started for a
nominal fee.

If you have no commercial interest but think the idea has commercial value
find someone who does; like the organization you are affiliated with for
example, and establish some plan to seek funding.

If you have any questions feel free. I do not need to know details.

-gene



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[mailto:geoengineer...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lockley
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:41 PM
To: Geoengineering
Subject: [geo] patenting ideas


I am interested to know if people think we should look to patent
geoengineering ideas?  Without a patent, it may be very hard to attract RD
funding.  I know there's a patent on Fake Plastic Trees, but I don't know of
any other patents for geoeng technology.

A



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[geo] DVD Alert!

2008-12-24 Thread Alvia Gaskill
Discovery Project Earth, all episodes re-airing today on the Science Channel 
right now.  In case you forgot, an 8-part series examining 7 different 
geoengineering technologies.
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[geo] stepping back to remember what it's all about...

2008-12-24 Thread Andrew Revkin

Dear all,

I thought you'd appreciate my holiday post on Dot Earth -- 
http://tinyurl.com/dotEarthrise -- which affords a fresh look at that 
remarkable view a few lucky astronauts have gotten of Earth rising 
over the sterile horizon of the Moon. If you haven't seen the 
Japanese VIDEO version of Earthrise (and Earthset) -- shot last year 
from Kaguya satellite -- you really owe it to yourself to click.

Make sure to click on watch in high quality on YouTube for the best 'view.'

I added the voices of the Apollo 8 astronauts and music by one of my 
Uncle Wade bandmates.

Would love comments, thoughts from you on the blog.

Best wishes for 2009 and well beyond.

Andy
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The New York Times / Science
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[geo] Re: stepping back to remember what it's all about...

2008-12-24 Thread John Nissen


Dear all,

The Earth is very impressive - and we are priveleged to live on it, at a 
time when it provides us a benign environment, partly of our own making. 
This is personally how I see it...

Although the Earth appears as a stable system, it has been through various 
crises, with five mass extinction events because of marked changes to the 
environment, eventually leading to a series of ice ages and us.  During 
these ice ages, the temperature has been oscillating wildly between limits. 
The upper limit seems to have been controlled by the Arctic sea ice, acting 
as a thermostat - when it was getting hotter globally, an increasing 
proportion of sea ice would give way to water, the whole Arctic region would 
heat, but then meltwater would flow into the NorthWest Atlantic and turn off 
the Gulf Stream to cool the Arctic region and allow the sea ice to reform to 
cool the region.

We have remained at near this upper limit of temperature oscillation for at 
least 8000 years.  If mankind had not cut down forests, ten thousand years 
ago, and initiated some global warming, we would almost certainly be in an 
ice age now.  Instead we are into the Anthropocene, where climate is to some 
extent controlled by our own behaviour.  In the past century we have 
injected a huge pulse of CO2 into the atmosphere.  This threatens to melt 
the Arctic sea ice completely, which has never happened between previous ice 
ages.  Thus we are about to destroy the thermostat for the global climate, 
letting the temperature climb through the roof, and creating the 6th great 
mass extinction event.

Mankind has survived many glaciations - some say it is how we have involved 
our intellegence.  We now have to apply our intellegence to get out of the 
new situation we find ourselves in.   Let us hope that this intellegence 
will prevail to find a way in 2009 to save the Arctic sea ice.

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year,

John


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Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:14 PM
Subject: [geo] stepping back to remember what it's all about...



 Dear all,

 I thought you'd appreciate my holiday post on Dot Earth -- 
 http://tinyurl.com/dotEarthrise -- which affords a fresh look at that
 remarkable view a few lucky astronauts have gotten of Earth rising
 over the sterile horizon of the Moon. If you haven't seen the
 Japanese VIDEO version of Earthrise (and Earthset) -- shot last year
 from Kaguya satellite -- you really owe it to yourself to click.

 Make sure to click on watch in high quality on YouTube for the best 
 'view.'

 I added the voices of the Apollo 8 astronauts and music by one of my
 Uncle Wade bandmates.

 Would love comments, thoughts from you on the blog.

 Best wishes for 2009 and well beyond.

 Andy
 -- 
 Andrew C. Revkin
 The New York Times / Science
 620 Eighth Ave., NY, NY 10018
 Tel: 212-556-7326 Mob: 914-441-5556
 Fax:  509-357-0965
 www.nytimes.com/revkin

 
 


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