Re: [geo] Impact assessment: Geoengineering challenges : Nature Climate Change

2015-11-27 Thread John Nissen
Hi Greg,

I am a defender.  But there is a lot of resistance to presenting the case
for geoengineering.  For example, Gavin Schmidt gave a talk on advocacy at
AGU and I asked him whether he'd allow me to be an advocate for
geoengineering on his blog, Real Climate.  He refused.  In public!  I was
gobsmacked.

Obviously, the case for geoengineering involves making a case for the
requirement for geoengineering.  My group has made a case for CDR, combined
with stringent emissions reductions, to bring CO2 down to 350 ppm *within
two or three decades*, as required to reduce serious risks from ocean
acidification as well as global warming.  We argue even more strongly for
SRM specifically to cool the Arctic, before it becomes seasonally free of
sea ice and gets locked into a rapid warming mode with even worse
consequences.  I have a full text of our submission to COP-21 which I can
post here if anyone is interested.

Cheers, John


On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Greg Rau  wrote:

> "international law is currently insufficiently tailored to the particular
> assessment challenges posed by geoengineering."
>
> So too is it ill equipped to assess the "potentially significant
> [positive] environmental, social and ethical impacts" and to weigh these
> against the potential negatives, as well as against the cost/risk/benefit
> of other actions and inactions. Meantime, there seems to be an abundance of
> prosecutors in such cases, where is the defense?
>
> Greg
>
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> *From:* Andrew Lockley 
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> *Subject:* [geo] Impact assessment: Geoengineering challenges : Nature
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> http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v5/n12/full/nclimate2886.html
> Geoengineering challenges
> Mat Hope
> Nature Climate Change 5, 1027 (2015)doi:10.1038/nclimate2886 25 November
> 2015
> Climate Law 5, 111–141 (2015)
> Geoengineering is moving from modelling to field experiments, with
> potentially significant environmental, social and ethical impacts. Impact
> assessments are normally undertaken to determine the risks of such
> activities. But new research suggests international law is currently
> insufficiently tailored to the particular assessment challenges posed by
> geoengineering.
> Subject terms:Ethics
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Re: [geo] Impact assessment: Geoengineering challenges : Nature Climate Change

2015-11-26 Thread Greg Rau
"international law is currently insufficiently tailored to the particular 
assessment challenges posed by geoengineering."
So too is it ill equipped to assess the "potentially significant [positive] 
environmental, social and ethical impacts" and to weigh these against the 
potential negatives, as well as against the cost/risk/benefit of other actions 
and inactions. Meantime, there seems to be an abundance of prosecutors in such 
cases, where is the defense?
Greg
 
  From: Andrew Lockley 
 To: Geoengineering@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 7:18 AM
 Subject: [geo] Impact assessment: Geoengineering challenges : Nature Climate 
Change
   
http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v5/n12/full/nclimate2886.htmlGeoengineering
 challengesMat HopeNature Climate Change 5, 1027 (2015)doi:10.1038/nclimate2886 
25 November 2015Climate Law 5, 111–141 (2015)Geoengineering is moving from 
modelling to field experiments, with potentially significant environmental, 
social and ethical impacts. Impact assessments are normally undertaken to 
determine the risks of such activities. But new research suggests international 
law is currently insufficiently tailored to the particular assessment 
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