Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

2014-09-15 Thread Jody Garnett
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Andrea Aime 
wrote:

> Or we could just implement a GUI for gt-transform, it is supposed to have
> management for that
> problem too (turn two columns into a single point inside geoserver)
>

Good thinking, going for the general purpose solution.
Was thinking of calling it "Java Views" or something (in order to be
similar to SQL views). "Transform view", "Local View" or "View" is probably
just better.
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Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

2014-09-15 Thread Andrea Aime
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Jody Garnett 
wrote:

> We had a generic "geometryless" JDBC datastore which could use any
> database via identifying a lat/lon column.
>
> You are welcome to resurrect that project:
>
>
> https://github.com/geotools/geotools/tree/2.7.x/modules/unsupported/geometryless
>
>
Or we could just implement a GUI for gt-transform, it is supposed to have
management for that
problem too (turn two columns into a single point inside geoserver)

Cheers
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Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

2014-09-15 Thread Jody Garnett
We had a generic "geometryless" JDBC datastore which could use any database
via identifying a lat/lon column.

You are welcome to resurrect that project:

https://github.com/geotools/geotools/tree/2.7.x/modules/unsupported/geometryless

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On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Nachtigall, Jens (init) <
jens.nachtig...@init.de> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
>
>
> is it possible to use a db, say Oracle **without** its spatial extension
> as a Data source in GeoServer, where the Point geometry is simply stored in
> two separate columns?
>
>
>
> The columns are simply “lon” and “lat” containing floats.
>
>
>
> That is, can I simply map these lon/lat columns in GeoServer and let
> GeoServer know that these are my geometry?
>
>  Best,
>
> Jens
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

2014-09-15 Thread Nachtigall, Jens (init)
Hi,

> The real question is: Why would you like to do so? You do not need to pay for 
> Oracle locator and with it you can add a new column of datatype SDO_GEOM into 
> your table and populate it from your X and Y columns. If you have an old 
> system in production and X/Y are updated from some application, make a 
> trigger and do inserts and updates into SDO_GEOM every time when X or Y are 
> touched.

Thanks for your clarification, I thought Oracle Spatial was required. I am 
happy with using Oracle Locator then.

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Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

2014-09-12 Thread Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
Hi,

I would say that it will not work out-of-the-box because GeoServer does not 
have X/Y or CSV datastore and what could be done with Mapserver through the 
GDAL virtual format http://www.gdal.org/drv_vrt.html is not supported.  But if 
you absolutely need such feature it is for sure doable. You can contract a 
Geoserver developer to make a new datastore or if you are in a hurry you can 
install Mapserver to read X/Y data from Oracle, publish it as WMS and cascade 
that layer with Geoserver.

The real question is: Why would you like to do so? You do not need to pay for 
Oracle locator and with it you can add a new column of datatype SDO_GEOM into 
your table and populate it from your X and Y columns. If you have an old system 
in production and X/Y are updated from some application, make a trigger and do 
inserts and updates into SDO_GEOM every time when X or Y are touched.

-Jukka Rahkonen-


Lähettäjä: Nachtigall, Jens (init) [mailto:jens.nachtig...@init.de]
Lähetetty: 12. syyskuuta 2014 15:52
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Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

A "does not work, you must use a spatial db to hold point coordinates" would 
help me, too ;) Does nobody know?

Cheers,
Jens

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Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

2014-09-12 Thread Nachtigall, Jens (init)
A "does not work, you must use a spatial db to hold point coordinates" would 
help me, too ;) Does nobody know?

Cheers,
Jens

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Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

2014-09-12 Thread Nachtigall, Jens (init)
Yes, I need it for OGC services, that is WFS and WMS.

Von: Eric Jarvies [mailto:7...@ericjarvies.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. September 2014 16:41
An: Nachtigall, Jens (init)
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial 
db

Jens,

Did you need GeoServer for some specific purpose for said X|Y coordinates -like 
creating a WMS layer?  If there is no 'good' reason to use GeoServer then said 
data can simply be accessed via your webcore(read Leaflet or OpenLayer and 
node.js, as an example).

Eric



On Sep 11, 2014, at 7:10 AM, Nachtigall, Jens (init) 
mailto:jens.nachtig...@init.de>> wrote:


Hi,

is it possible to use a db, say Oracle *without* its spatial extension as a 
Data source in GeoServer, where the Point geometry is simply stored in two 
separate columns?

The columns are simply "lon" and "lat" containing floats.

That is, can I simply map these lon/lat columns in GeoServer and let GeoServer 
know that these are my geometry?
Best,
Jens

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Re: [Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

2014-09-11 Thread Eric Jarvies
Jens,

Did you need GeoServer for some specific purpose for said X|Y coordinates -like 
creating a WMS layer?  If there is no ‘good’ reason to use GeoServer then said 
data can simply be accessed via your webcore(read Leaflet or OpenLayer and 
node.js, as an example).

Eric



On Sep 11, 2014, at 7:10 AM, Nachtigall, Jens (init)  
wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> is it possible to use a db, say Oracle *without* its spatial extension as a 
> Data source in GeoServer, where the Point geometry is simply stored in two 
> separate columns?
>  
> The columns are simply “lon” and “lat” containing floats.
>  
> That is, can I simply map these lon/lat columns in GeoServer and let 
> GeoServer know that these are my geometry?
> Best,
> Jens
>  
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[Geoserver-users] Point Geometry in lon/lat columns of non-spatial db

2014-09-11 Thread Nachtigall, Jens (init)
Hi,

is it possible to use a db, say Oracle *without* its spatial extension as a 
Data source in GeoServer, where the Point geometry is simply stored in two 
separate columns?

The columns are simply "lon" and "lat" containing floats.

That is, can I simply map these lon/lat columns in GeoServer and let GeoServer 
know that these are my geometry?
Best,
Jens

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