RE: Green Living Tips

2008-11-28 Thread Wallace, Richard
I am looking forward to seeing the FSB list, but I think the debate is still 
open as to whether the savings from changing light bulbs is or is not trivial. 
I find the ongoing discussion of CFLs and similar prescriptions for change 
increasingly distracting from what is going to be needed to address the 
problems at hand. Lighting accounts for 5-10% of energy usage in the U.S 
(though nearly 25% of our electricity usage). The number of CFLs in use 
accounts for some small percentage of that 5-10%. It's not a small amount of 
energy in kilowatts, perhaps, but in terms of overall impact on energy usage in 
the U.S., switching to CFLs is small change. 
 
This is probably a good time to recall the Thanksgiving piece that our esteemed 
GEP-Ed founder, Mike Maniates, had published almost exactly a year ago in the 
Washington Post, entitled Going Green? Easy Doesn't Do it. The link is here: 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/21/AR2007112101856.html.
 It just scratches the surface, but is an excellent editorial on the question 
of on what scale do we need to be considering change? This past year has seen 
a lot of talk and paper devoted to this issue of scale - books by Thomas 
Friedman, Van Jones, and others, the policy proposals Al Gore has been making. 
The N.Y. Times' editorial board ran a piece _yesterday_ (again, Happy 
Thanksgiving!) about the need for higher-level thinking - specifically, 
marrying economic and environmental policy RIGHT NOW, in this critical time for 
both (it's here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/27/opinion/27thu1.html?_r=1). 
It's food for thought as we (in the U.S.) dig into our holiday leftovers.
 
Cheers,
 
Rich
 
--
 
Richard L. Wallace
Associate Professor and Chair
Environmental Studies Program
Ursinus College
Collegeville, PA
 
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of rldavis
Sent: Thu 11/27/2008 4:25 PM
To: Global Environmental Education
Subject: Green Living Tips


Rado-there is a listserve run by an Environmental Psychologist in New Brunswick 
called fostering sustainable behavior (spelled the US way): [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
You do have to be approved to join the list. I think that the archives, located 
at http://www.cbsm.com/forums/search.lasso are open. It is loaded with tips, 
has great (but fairly low volume discussion and the guy who runs it (but whose 
name I've forgotten) is very interesting. I heard him speak at a Climate 
Project reunion in Boston (that's the group of Al Gore trained climate change 
presenters). By the way, he spoke specifically to idling your car and the 
savings are not trivial, nor are the savings from changing light bulbs. There 
are dollar savings too. He differentiated between easy things to do that 
individually were small (such as changing light bulbs) but, because so many 
bulbs were being change collectively, had a huge impact, and those mega things 
that saved a lot of carbon through a single action, but were very, very hard to 
achieve both technically and socially. 

Larry Davis

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Professor of Earth and Environmental Sciences
University Research Scholar
Department of Biology and Environmental Sciences
University of New Haven
300 Boston Post Road
West Haven, Connecticut 06516
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Green Living Tips

2008-11-28 Thread rfriedmann
Totally agree with you Richard. Being that I work on energy efficiency, 
lighting is indeed a small piece of the total and moving to CFLs or LEDs will 
not solve climate change. Nevertheless, it is a start... and remember that it 
is a good way to make people realize that there are options when using any 
energy-device... people talk about the lights going out, never about the 
electricity went out... so getting them to adopt a CFL is in my view a way to 
change their cognitive map and hopefully when they go to buy a refrigerator or 
car, they will think about how much energy it uses... 

WE definitely need to do much MORE and NOW - before the health of this Planet 
is compromised beyond our ability to survive the changes that will ensue... and 
I'm frankly much more worried about humans propensity to violence especially 
over resources, than Climate Change.. To be blunt, a nuclear winter is 
something I worry about more...

Thus it is in all our interests to redouble our efforts, to bring as many 
people as we can, of all ages, to join us to change how humans are abusing the 
planet. 

Have a great day 

Rafael


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I am looking forward to seeing the FSB list, but I think the debate is still 
open as to whether the savings from changing light bulbs is or is not=2
0trivial. I find the ongoing discussion of CFLs and similar prescriptions for 
change increasingly distracting from what is going to be needed to address the 
problems at hand. Lighting accounts for 5-10% of energy usage in the U.S 
(though nearly 25% of our electricity usage). The number of CFLs in use 
accounts for some small percentage of that 5-10%. It's not a small amount of 
energy in kilowatts, perhaps, but in terms of overall impact on energy usage in 
the U.S., switching to CFLs is small change. 

 

This is probably a good time to recall the Thanksgiving piece that our esteemed 
GEP-Ed founder, Mike Maniates, had published almost exactly a year ago in the 
Washington Post, entitled Going Green? Easy Doesn't Do it. The link is here: 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/21/AR2007112101856.html.
 It just scratches the surface, but is an excellent editorial on the 
question of on what scale do we need to be considering change? This past year 
has seen a lot of talk and paper devoted to this issue of scale - books by 
Thomas Friedman, Van Jones, and others, the policy proposals Al Gore has been 
making. The N.Y. Times' editorial board ran a piece _yesterday_ (again, Happy 
Thanksgiving!) about the need for higher-level thinking - specifically, 
marrying economic and environmental policy RIGHT NOW, in this critical time for 
both (it's here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/27/opinion/27thu1.html?_r=1). 
It's food for thought as we (in the U.S.) dig into our holiday leftovers.

 

Cheers,=0
A
 

Rich

 

--

 

Richard L. Wallace

Associate Professor and Chair

Environmental Studies Program

Ursinus College

Collegeville, PA

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of rldavis
Sent: Thu 11/27/2008 4:25 PM
To: Global Environmental Education
Subject: Green Living Tips



Rado-there is a listserve run by an Environmental Psychologist in New Brunswick 
called “fostering sustainable behavior” (spelled the US way): [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
You do have to be approved to join the list. I think that the archives, located 
at http://www.cbsm.com/forums/search.lasso are open. It is loaded with tips, 
has great (but fairly low volume discussion and the guy who runs it (but whose 
name I’ve forgotten) is very interesting. I heard him speak at a Climate 
Project “reunion” in Boston (that’s the group of Al Gore trained climate change 
presenters). By the way, he spoke specifically to idling your car and the 
savings are not trivial, nor are the savings from changing light bulbs. There 
are dollar savings too. He differentiated between easy things to do that 
individually were small (such as changing light bulbs) but, because so many 
bulbs were being change collectively, had a huge impact, and those mega things 
that saved a lot of carbon through a single action, but were very, very hard to 
achieve both technically and socially. 

Larry Davis

-- 

*
R. Laurence Davis, Ph.D.
Professor of E
arth and Environmental Sciences
University Research Scholar
Department of Biology and Environmental Sciences
University of New Haven
300 Boston Post Road
West Haven, Connecticut 06516
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: 203-932-7108    Fax: 203-931-6097

UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAVEN-
A Leader in Experiential Education
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